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That was classic...

Catch a 30+ yard touchdown pass, kneel down, whip a pen out of your sock and sign the football. Ahaha.
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I don't like guys that are overly cocky, but you gotta love creativity like that!

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post #3 of 55
the nfl will have a new rule by the end of the week...g
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I think he should be banned from the NFL for life for that move. I'm so sick of celebrating players. I almost can't watch a game anymore. It's ridiculous. You see guys celebrating for doing routine things, I mean you are supposed to make a tackle, catch, decent run..... It's just so lame.
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my favorite is when i guy really sets a guy down hard and starts to celebrate.....after the other guy's gained 20 yards.

what a bunch of retards.

sorry, but if i make a great tackle, and they gained 20 yards, i don't think i'd be celebrating.
post #6 of 55
Banned from the NFL, good idea.
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post #7 of 55
Not sure if any of you heard but he had made a promise to one of his fans/friends in the stands that if he made a touch down he would sign the ball for them and give it to them. That is why he had the pen in his sock. Don't know if it makes any difference to you, but I doubt he will be doing it every game.
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[quote] Not sure if any of you heard but he had made a promise to one of his fans/friends in the stands that if he made a touch down he would sign the ball for them and give it to them. That is why he had the pen in his sock. Don't know if it makes any difference to you, but I doubt he will be doing it every game <hr></blockquote>

There's no reason he couldn't have had them keep the ball on sideline and autograph it later for his fan/friend. It was a total showboat move and I'm serious I think he should be banned if not at least indefinitely suspended.
post #9 of 55
Why shouldn't he be able to do that?

What's wrong with showboating?

These are grown men making millions of dollars, it's not the job of the NFL to make them behave like respectful little boys.

If it takes a really long time, or it taunts the other team excessively or if it's aggressive to others then yeah.

Old white men not knowing how to deal with young black men, that's all this is.
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post #10 of 55
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Why shouldn't he be able to do that?

These are grown men making millions of dollars, it's not the job of the NFL to make them behave like respectful little boys.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Actually, the NFL does have a "code of conduct" rule that, unfortunately, is not enforced in the slightest. If it were, we would quickly run out of players... or at least get some players that know how to behave like professionals.

I don't follow the sport a whole lot, I see what I see in the media, and it's grown men still acting like children. Whoever that guy was that hit that meter maid... and apparently he has done stuff like that before. And he apologizes to his team and family, yet still failed to apologize to the woman he hit, completely intentionally. Did he get anything more than a fine from the judge? Did the NFL slap him with that 'code of conduct' rule they have and do anything more than tell him how much to make the check out for/

This is the problem, and until someone actually starts enforcing this stuff, be it the NFL or the judicial system, these players are going to think the only penalty for doing anything in life will be writing a check. I mean, shit, it's working out well for OJ...
post #11 of 55
[quote]Originally posted by M3D Jack:
<strong>Actually, the NFL does have a "code of conduct" rule that, unfortunately, is not enforced in the slightest. If it were, we would quickly run out of players... or at least get some players that know how to behave like professionals.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't see how signing a football in the endzone is against any code of conduct. Flipping off the crowd/team/officials, sure. But signing a football in the endzone?

It's unorthodox, yeah, and it's definitely arrogant. But if players started playing like they were apologizing the NFL would be even less exciting than it already is.

Then again, Kyle Turley is probably my favorite football player.

[quote]<strong>I don't follow the sport a whole lot, I see what I see in the media, and it's grown men still acting like children.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, they are playing sports which will bring out the most competitive natures. And you have to be competitive to make it to that level.

[quote]<strong>Whoever that guy was that hit that meter maid... and apparently he has done stuff like that before. And he apologizes to his team and family, yet still failed to apologize to the woman he hit, completely intentionally.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know if you're equating the two, I certainly hope not.

An NFL WR hits a meter maid with his car.
A baseball All-Star gets caught smoking crack in a hotel room.
A priest gets caught molesting boys.

Every profession has bad seeds, you can't call Owens out on something Randy Moss did. Randy Moss has been a problem case for years; he wanted to go to Notre Dame but his scholarship offer was pulled because of a race-related brawl he was in. He got kicked off of Florida State's team (Florida State of all places, I forget why but he must have killed someone to get kicked out of Free Shoes University) and ended up with a freaking MAC team (Marshall) before going pro. Jerry Jones of all people passed on drafting him because of his off-the-field problems (Jerry "owner of the Dallas Cokeboys" Jones!).

Moss is a moron, there are players out there who consider themselves thugs (Edgerrin James) that handle themselves better than this fruitcake.

[quote]<strong>Did he get anything more than a fine from the judge? Did the NFL slap him with that 'code of conduct' rule they have and do anything more than tell him how much to make the check out for</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think he has to go to counselling now and he's on some kind of drug program. I'm not sure how it's being handled.
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post #12 of 55
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Randy Moss is a moron, yes, but the fact is he was only slapped with a handful of misdemeanor charges. Not one single team would bench or suspend players for misdemeanors.
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post #13 of 55
Hey, maybe he's tired of fake autographs of his being sold... and he's going to only autograph footballs on TV during games now.
post #14 of 55
it is entertainment..we love it and we watch it=====whatever..if your fav team does it them u don't care------out/p1
post #15 of 55
[quote] Old white men not knowing how to deal with young black men, that's all this is.
<hr></blockquote>

I don't get this statement. Am I a racist because I thought he acted like a jackass? Hey, the first guy to really do anything elaborate that I can remember was a white guy named Mark Gastineau who played for the Jets and did the sack "dance". Thought he was a jackass too and they made a rule against his conduct.

Hey some people might like it, I don't and if I was playing defense against him I'd make sure I put a little extra hurt on him. But you know what, it really doesn't matter except I find myself watching less and less sports and enjoying it less when I do watch.
post #16 of 55
[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
<strong>Am I a racist because I thought he acted like a jackass?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course not, that's not what I said or meant. I'm talking about the hierarchy of the NFL that has a shitfit if a player doesn't tuck in his jersey 30 seconds after it comes untucked.

There are white guys that have been cocky and let it show for years, but the background these black athletes come from takes it to a brand new level.
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post #17 of 55
I see nothing wrong with taunting, trash-talking, celebrating, etc etc... They shouldn't get obscene and shouldn't exchange words with fans or officials, but who are we kidding? This is football, not f-ing golf! At this rate the Ryder-Cup has more spunk!
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post #18 of 55
What is it with all of you fascists? This is America. We have a few things going for us. Freedom of expression is one of them.

If you don't like it, move to Europe. . . or China.
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post #19 of 55
I wonder how long it will take for that ball to make it on Ebay.
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[quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:
<strong>What is it with all of you fascists? This is America. We have a few things going for us. Freedom of expression is one of them.

If you don't like it, move to Europe. . . or China.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think anybody is looking to put Owens in jail over this. Freedom of expression also means that people get to criticize players when they behave like idiots. I'm perfectly okay with what Owens did yesterday. I wasn't okay with it a few years ago when he ran out to the star in the center of the field in Dallas after he scored a touchdown. That one pissed off Emmitt so much that he ran out and tackled him. I didn't blame Emmitt for reacting that way and that kind of highlighted why it was so wrong. Behavior that crosses a line can be counterproductive. Beating the other football team can be hard enough without giving them additional psychological ammunition.
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post #21 of 55
[quote] What is it with all of you fascists? This is America. We have a few things going for us. Freedom of expression is one of them. <hr></blockquote>

It's not about freedom of expression. He was at work when this happened. Do you have complete freedom of expression at your job?
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
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It's not about freedom of expression. He was at work when this happened. Do you have complete freedom of expression at your job?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He signed an autograph for a mutual friend of him and Shawn Springs sitting in the luxury box right behind the end-zone. There wasn't any taunting, slandering, or aggression involved. What's the big deal?
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[quote]Originally posted by spaceman_spiff:
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I don't think anybody is looking to put Owens in jail over this. Freedom of expression also means that people get to criticize players when they behave like idiots. I'm perfectly okay with what Owens did yesterday. I wasn't okay with it a few years ago when he ran out to the star in the center of the field in Dallas after he scored a touchdown. That one pissed off Emmitt so much that he ran out and tackled him. I didn't blame Emmitt for reacting that way and that kind of highlighted why it was so wrong. Behavior that crosses a line can be counterproductive. Beating the other football team can be hard enough without giving them additional psychological ammunition.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When he did that after his first touchdown reception, nobody in the stands made a big deal. It was only after he got tackled by Emmitt (was it?) on his second touchdown when the fans decided it wasn't okay.

"UHH, WE'RE 0-13 BUT WE CAN'T LET HIM DISRESPECT US IN OUR HOUSE."
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post #24 of 55
Emmitt isn't exactly a firecracker, so even though I didn't see the incident in question I'd venture a guess that T.O. was out of line.
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post #25 of 55
It was GeorgeTeague that tackled him at Dallas (they had a TON of stuff about this on Sportscenter today.)

I'm really suprised people are this pissed, I haven't seen any of the Seahawks bitch about it. He's not even going to be fined. If the No Fun League isn't getting their shorts in a knot, who should?

Terrell's comment: "If people around the league don't like my celebrations, they should keep me out of the end-zone!"


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[ 10-16-2002: Message edited by: jeffyboy ]</p>
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post #26 of 55
Oh, it was Teague?

Well that makes a lot more sense.

Old men get senile, he probably thought T.O. was trying to steal his social security check.
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[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
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I think he has to go to counselling now and he's on some kind of drug program. I'm not sure how it's being handled.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm not equating signing a football and whoever the moron was that hit a meter maid...

That's why I quoted you initially when you said, "It is not the NFL's job to...." - Because I think it partially is their job. My argument is just that while I don't think having him sign a football in the endzone bothers me, maybe it should bother the NFL. After all, these people represent the NFL, and it, last I checked, wasn't a public service. So if these players are going to represent the NFL, they should have to follow some guidelines... and continuing along that thought pattern, should the NFL continue to want those people to work for them, the NFL should take responsibility and make it their job to teach these people some proper behaviour.

My reply was all about the fact that I think it is the NFL's job to teach these people how to act at times, and with a code of conduct rule, the NFL agrees... at least on paper. So you misinterpreted my entire post, I'm going to bust your kneecaps when we get back to the moderator lounge...
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Why don't you just spank me.
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
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It's not about freedom of expression. He was at work when this happened. Do you have complete freedom of expression at your job?</strong><hr></blockquote>

By law, yes. If I decided to do something outrageous, I'm sure it would raise a few eyebrows, but unless I invaded someone's property, I think I'd be OK.

And, boys and girls, his job is to be an entertainer. I think he was doing a pretty good job.

And for the fascist comment, I wasn't refering to your right to be annoyed, I was referring to the calls to "ban him from the NFL." The fact that, just because someone does something you don't like, he should be BANNED from the NFL. Don't worry so much about your neighbors. Worry about yourself instead. Was he even insulting you? I can't see why. Maybe you can give me a reason.

[ 10-16-2002: Message edited by: Splinemodel ]</p>
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The NFL said they're not going to fine him...Yay.
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boo fuc*ing hoo. why are you pansies still arguing about this...???
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[quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:
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And for the fascist comment, I wasn't refering to your right to be annoyed, I was referring to the calls to "ban him from the NFL." The fact that, just because someone does something you don't like, he should be BANNED from the NFL. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair enough but that was hardly the consensus here. Again, my take is that Owens sometimes is a pain-in-the-butt but this incident just shouldn't be an issue.

[ 10-16-2002: Message edited by: spaceman_spiff ]</p>
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[quote]And for the fascist comment, I wasn't refering to your right to be annoyed, I was referring to the calls to "ban him from the NFL." <hr></blockquote>

Actually banning him wouldn't be the right thing. The right thing would be for his coach to sit him down or for a linebacker to take out his knees. I was actually thinking how cool it would be if a wide reciever was doing that stupid "first down" signal at the end of a catch if some line backer would just come out of nowhere and blind side em.

This really isn't worth arguing about, but did you guys think it was cool when that kid did his home run trot in the little league world series? Do you think it's cool when a guy just stands there watching his home run only to see it fall short? How about when a guy celebrates a score when his team is getting decimated?
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
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This really isn't worth arguing about, but did you guys think it was cool when that kid did his home run trot in the little league world series? Do you think it's cool when a guy just stands there watching his home run only to see it fall short? How about when a guy celebrates a score when his team is getting decimated?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You almost never see anybody staring at his home-run ball unless it's obviously going out. Especially if the ball is hugging the foul line. Or are you going to verbally attack Fisk for his World Series home-run ball at Fenway? (The one you see on the Memorable Moments commercials)

If a guy stands there to watch his home-run ball, he's making a choice not to run. If it ends up bouncing off the wall, he'll look a little silly for not running and getting extra bases.

If a guy celebrates a score after his team is decimated, he's a little bit foolish. The 49ers were not getting decimated. This almost applies to the Cowboys more than it does Owens...

"UHH, WE'RE 0-13 BUT WE CAN'T LET HIM DISRESPECT US IN OUR HOUSE."

What are the consequences of signing an autograph for a specific person?

[ 10-16-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
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It was Bush League all the way.
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[quote]Originally posted by ThinkingDifferent:
<strong>I wonder how long it will take for that ball to make it on Ebay.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i am wondering the same thing... what do you think? $5000? $10000 who is retarded enough to buy it for that much?
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post #37 of 55
"You have a white guy as an announcer and sportscaster," Owens was quoted as saying in the San Francisco Examiner. "Me, I'm black. I do it and I've already done some stuff in the past.

"We're (African-Americans) more expressive than the white guys," Owen said. "You look at the skilled players. We're the ones that get into the end zone. We get in the end zone more than they do."

Straight from Terrell Owens' fat mouth. Nice way to pull the race card.
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
<strong>I was actually thinking how cool it would be if a wide reciever was doing that stupid "first down" signal at the end of a catch if some line backer would just come out of nowhere and blind side em.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #39 of 55
Terrell WAS fined $5000 after the game...
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Heh, ridiculous events.

step one) TO makes an ill-advised, but harmless move.
step two) The media makes a big deal out of nothing.
step three) The NFL makes a bone-headed decision to find some way to fine TO.
step four) TO tries to make it a race issue.
step five?) Who knows?
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