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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Exactly. It's just a big iPod touch

It's like a big quarter, because it's made of metal. It's just bigger and not round.
post #42 of 78
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Who said it escaped us?

He did.
post #43 of 78
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Who said it escaped us?

If you need to have Engadget tell you that the Smart Cover doesn't "protect" the back from scratching it up, then you are probably not smart enough to ever have $500 at given time.

Seriously, you trolls wishing AI would write down to a stupider demographic: really?
post #44 of 78
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Dude, why do you even bother with technology at all, you are obviously happier when you don't use it.

I'm a book collector and have at various times worked in publishing and retail, I have a collection of tens of thousands of books but ...

... the second I got an iPad I wished I could digitise the lot of them. Reading books on a device as opposed to the old paper copies is far easier and you can carry a lot more of them around with you. I got three books for Christmas this year and before Boxing Day was over I was looking for them online so I could download them and read them more comfortably on the iPad.

Sometimes newer is just better. I don't think anyone is really going to miss the paper-based book once they get used to the alternative.

I'm already thinking of building a book scanner in the basement so that I can preserve my huge collection of books for the future because most of them are going to turn to dust shortly after I pass away and no one is going to read them if they aren't digitised at some point.

I agree, only I took it even further, I listen to books ... on my iPod or iPhone. Reading on anything is such a pain on the beach in Florida ... bright light, sun glasses, oil and all not to mention not being able to lie in any position for maximum tanning!
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post #45 of 78
The worst place for the iPad to take impact is its screen. No cover is going to do much about that while the machine is in use. A two or three foot drop onto carpet wouldn't alarm me too much; tile or concrete would though. Closed, the Smart Cover should provide just enough padding to keep the screen safe from a short fall; the iPad 2's rounded edges will probably distribute blows to the corner more evenly than it would with the original iPad's. Wait until the other tablet buyers drop their plastic contraptions on to ground and watch the entire unit shatter.

Wall to wall tile makes me slightly afraid of potential accidents. At any rate I won't have any idea until my friend brings it from the US in a couple weeks Arrived yesterday at his place by the way, and I ordered before 4 AM EST last Friday.
post #46 of 78
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If you need to have Engadget tell you that the Smart Cover doesn't "protect" the back from scratching it up, then you are probably not smart enough to ever have $500 at given time.

Seriously, you trolls wishing AI would write down to a stupider demographic: really?

Welcome to the forums.
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post #47 of 78
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Sometimes newer is just better. I don't think anyone is really going to miss the paper-based book once they get used to the alternative.

The alternative is damaged eye-sight.
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post #48 of 78
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

That's why 5 of the 6 iPad 2 models are less expensive than the Motorola Xoom which is its nearest competitor.

The Zoom is $599. But that's on a contract.
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post #49 of 78
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

The Zoom is $599. But that's on a contract.

WiFi only model no contract is released on the 27th.
post #50 of 78
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

Sure, E-ink and LCD give you different looks.

Different looks? You just don't get it. The iPad hurts your eyes after a while, just like any 'computer'. The Kindle does not. The Kindle is the next best thing to paper for "reading" on. And paper is king when it comes to reading very long form. The iPad is best product ever, but the Kindle is better for reading books. It's like the way a knife has far more uses than a spoon, and if I had to choose one of the two I'd choose a knife. But if you are trying to eat soup a spoon wins hands down.

In my ideal world, in addition to the amazing iPad, Apple would make the world's first mass-produced dedicated touchscreen E-Ink book reader. They would resurrect the product name iBook. You'd download books to your account from anywhere or any product that has iTunes/iBookstore (iPhone/iPad/iPod touch/Mac/iBook, etc.) and those books would appear in your iBook Library for reading. It would be a 7 or 8" edge-to-edge E-Ink screen with very little "or no" chrome round the edge of the product. It would basically look like you are holding a page of a book in your hand, but that "page" would be your whole library of books. Books - as in, novels. It would be a dream product. And you just know Apple would have some nice simple software on there that gets the job done.

Amazon can't make software or hardware to save their lives, but the actual display technology used on the Kindle is absolutely perfect for reading books on. The iPad is not even close. The iPad's UI is WAAAAYYYY better, but I'm not talking about UI. I'm talking about the actual screen. You know, that light shining directly in your face. Not to mention the Kindle 3 Wifi weighs 241 grams. Almost 1/3 the weight of an iPad. The iPad is the best thing to happen computing in the history of the computer, but it's not, by any means, anywhere near the perfect book reader. I believe there is a market for "the perfect book reader". Even the Kindle isn't it. Who'll eventually make that perfect book reader is anyone's guess. Perhaps it will be the Kindle 5. Three versions in and Amazon can't even make decent page buttons. They are retards.
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post #51 of 78
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WiFi only model no contract is released on the 27th.

Oh. That's better than $799. I believe that's the 32GB version also.
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post #52 of 78
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Are you reading my comments again?

Pure coincidence, mon. I did go back several post up just now and saw your post about the shield.

Which other post of yours that I may have inadvertently read?
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post #53 of 78
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Originally Posted by uguysrnuts View Post

Pure coincidence, mon. I did go back several post up just now and saw your post about the shield.

Chillax.
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post #54 of 78
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It's like the way a knife has far more uses than a spoon, and if I had to choose one of the two I'd choose a knife. But if you are trying to eat soup a spoon wins hands down.

Nice illustration
post #55 of 78
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Originally Posted by AaronJ View Post

Got mine this morning, even though it was supposed to (according to the FedEx web page) arrive Friday.

Oh. My. God. I love it. I spent most of the day downloading apps and playing with it, and it STILL has something like 37% battery. It's amazing. The apps are great. I've been rockin' out on Garage Band ... how fun!

I've never bought anything so much fun in my life.

battery life is CRAZY like that girl in the tree in that ANDROID ad ...

it s the white 64GB wifi only model ... now to trade up my black iphone 4 for a white one whenever the HELL that comes out... or heck i'll just buy the white Mophie iphone battery cover case..

PROGRESS = BANKRUPTCY = I am BROKER than AL ROKER
post #56 of 78
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Originally Posted by AaronJ View Post

Thanks! I decided, when iPad1 came out, that I would wait until version 2. And I am totally happy with this purchase. And I can't believe how cool reading is on it. There are TONS of free books. It's a blast.

Welcome to 2010 Seriously though, iPad 2 is the way to fly if you haven't tried an iPad before... Enjoy!
post #57 of 78
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Face down, as up...

Nice reference there to 2 Live Crew
post #58 of 78
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post

Sounds pretty good on paper. But will anyone want to buy it?

There's a lot of people who want to buy it, hundreds even give or take.. Including me, and four people close to me.
post #59 of 78
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Originally Posted by dacloo View Post

This article read like an advertisement. Like Steve wrote it himself.

Anyway....

"While the new Smart Covers don't "protect" the back, that's partly a feature"

WTF? Try to drop your iPad on the floor accidentely and see how good the 'feature' works!

Then don't drop it.. Oh wait, you said "accidentally", okay fair enough.. If you did, then that's one good reason to buy a new/newer one.
post #60 of 78
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I don't understand the obsession with protecting the iPad/iPhone. IF you are afraid of dropping the thing, or if, like me you have young kids with zero respect for xaddy's treasured toys, then yes, perhaps. But the thing looks beautiful. It is ridiculously thin. So why would you want to cover it up and make it all fat and bloated. If it gets scratched it will still be beautiful. If it is all nice an shiny but covered up, then what's the point? For me the ip4 is a thing of beauty. With the bumper it is fugly. With a cover it is bulky. I prefer to live with the scratches.

Thank you, spot on. Hopefully 'dacloo' reads your post.

IMHO whenever we put on covers or protectors on our gadget, we missed the very reason why it's made that way. Not just for this iPad 2 alone, or any Apple products, but also for every gadgets and gizmos made by others as well.
post #61 of 78
I love the original case and plan on modifying it for the iPad 2. I hate the new cover.

Paper punch a hole for the rear camera, X-axto knife a rectangular hole for the new speaker and a small hole on top middle for the new mic. Good to go.

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post #62 of 78
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I love the original case and plan on modifying it for the iPad 2. I hate the new cover.

Paper punch a hole for the rear camera, X-axto knife a rectangular hole for the new speaker and a small hole on top middle for the new mic. Good to go.

Way to go..!
post #63 of 78
Has anyone noticed if the smart covers interfere with the compass? I have a Mareware case for my ipad1 and the magnets interfere with compass. Not a big deal, I only noticed it one day when I was using maps with the orientation feature.

I was also wondering if long term exposure to a magnetic field could 'decalibrate' the compass.
post #64 of 78
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"In my ideal world, in addition to the amazing iPad, Apple would make the world's first mass-produced dedicated touchscreen E-Ink book reader. They would resurrect the product name iBook. You'd download books to your account from anywhere or any product that has iTunes/iBookstore (iPhone/iPad/iPod touch/Mac/iBook, etc.) and those books would appear in your iBook Library for reading.

It would be a 7 or 8" edge-to-edge E-Ink screen with very little "or no" chrome round the edge of the product. It would basically look like you are holding a page of a book in your hand, but that "page" would be your whole library of books. Books - as in, novels. It would be a dream product. And you just know Apple would have some nice simple software on there that gets the job done."


I agree with your "ideal." Not for myself, but for my wife. I love Apple products and look forward to having an iPad2 later this year. My wife on the other hand doesn't even want a computer - she gave away her iMac after a few months of gathering dust.

But she loves to read -several books a week. The "i-Book" you describe would be a constant companion.
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Today is iPaddy's day so it may be appropriate to remind people of St iPaddy's Breastplate
iPad be with me, iPad within me,
iPad behind me, iPad before me,
iPad beside me, iPad to win me,
iPad to comfort and restore me.
iPad beneath me, iPad above me,
iPad in quiet, iPad in danger,
iPad in hearts of all that love me,
IPad in hands of friend and stranger.
post #66 of 78
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Dude, why do you even bother with technology at all, you are obviously happier when you don't use it.

Having been involved in the biosciences and technology, I can envision the use of such technologies like the iPad, beyond what is being considered now.

And, I do look forward to being able to digitize the books I wanted to carry with me. I am working on digitizing a 55-volume book series that would be useful for people in my country. The series was a limited edition when it was published between 1903-1909, and there's no copy back home.

Having stated that, I do agree with Ireland, in a way. Before iBooks became a reality, I marveled at how the British Library digitized one very old Bible, and it flips as if you were actually dealing with the Bible. But, the key term there is "as if". I wish I could touch the originals, but they were safely encased on their display shelves in the permanent collection of the British Library.

I have an online version of the "Letters to a Young Poet". but I would never part with the cheap copy I bought from a bookstore in Boston, after someone gave me two books of Rilke. I bought "Letters to a Young Poet" on my birthday while on my way to the Museum of Fine Arts, and I became even more hooked with Rilke. It has been with me all over the world since it is very handy. I end up using as bookmark anything that was handy during these travels, as I do with whatever book I am reading. So, when I open some pages, and discover some long forgotten "bookmark", it triggers memories more vivid as if it was just moment ago.

I love books but do not have the money to indulge on rare book collections or the paintings and music that I would have wanted. So, I content myself with buying used books. It was a flea market day during one of my visits in Cambridge, I bought more than a dozen used books that caught my fancy; especially illustrated books. And sometimes you find treasures in them, that gave insight to the previous owner. One was an attempt to write a verse, tucked in a used Oxford Book of English Verse, with a short note requesting perhaps a fellow student his thoughts on his verse. The book edition was in the early 20th century. Did the previous owner become a poet or perhaps one of those English professors? Or, did he have aspirations to be a poet, just like the recipient of the "Letters to a Young Poet" but never really have it in himself to be one? Or, was he one of the young English guys, like Rupert Brooke, who died during the "Great War"; thus, never realized their potential?

I do not mind buying books with all those scribbles that some bookowners tend to do. It would be shunned by professional book collectors but it gives you insights of the thoughts, leanings and dreams sometimes of the previous owners.

To borrow and paraphrase a line from a verse, "The things I love"... about books may be difficult to capture in its electronic form.

I embrace new technology, but new does not have to be in conflict with appreciation of the old.

There is also another sinister thing about new consumer technology - planned obsolescence. How many of us have fallen in love with some new gadgets and in it stored all what we consider to be useful. Before we realized it, the new consumer technology became old, and obsolete with respect to newer replacements.

Unless one has been conscientious in porting "older technology" to newer replacements, we may find ourselves incapable of accessing all we spent so much time "digitizing". This is one reason why librarians, even those who embrace new technology would never part with old books. Harvard spends millions of dollars to restore old books (from the threat of acid burns), because printed books have so far outlived many more recent digital technologies.


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post #67 of 78
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post

Sounds pretty good on paper. But will anyone want to buy it?

Hell no! It's just a big, giant iPod Touch!

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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Nice reference there to 2 Live Crew

Heh. I caught that, too.
post #69 of 78
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Originally Posted by donal View Post

Today is iPaddy's day so it may be appropriate to remind people of St iPaddy's Breastplate
iPad be with me, iPad within me,
iPad behind me, iPad before me,
iPad beside me, iPad to win me,
iPad to comfort and restore me.
iPad beneath me, iPad above me,
iPad in quiet, iPad in danger,
iPad in hearts of all that love me,
IPad in hands of friend and stranger.

My guess is you like the iPad.
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post #70 of 78
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Originally Posted by dacloo View Post

This article read like an advertisement. Like Steve wrote it himself.

Anyway....

"While the new Smart Covers don't "protect" the back, that's partly a feature"

WTF? Try to drop your iPad on the floor accidentely and see how good the 'feature' works!

You should probably learn the difference between the words cover and case, then reread the article and then you can participate in the comments section with the grownups.
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But is it Magical???
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I like ITime tool in Ipad2, so imazing.
post #73 of 78
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Trying to figure out how the Twitter app works

It's better than the Website.
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post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

But is it Magical???

No. That's pure marketing tripe. It's a super all-purpose general computer, though.
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post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Clearly the Smart Cover isnt designed for overall protection. I dont even know how this fact could escape the two of you.

It was appropriately named Smart Cover...not Clumsy Idiot Cover
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Originally Posted by Curious G View Post

It was appropriately named Smart Cover...not Clumsy Idiot Cover

Speaking of clumsy idiot, I dropped my computer bag today with my MBP and iPad 2 inside. My MBP was fine, but my iPad 2 has scracthed and dents on two corners. The reason is the iPad 2 is now thin enough, even with the Smart Cover on, to fit in the side pocket of my computer bag. This is the unpaded and unprotected pocket that would might store some paper in on the outside. Oops.

No worries, though. No cracked glass and the unit works the same as before. I bet I could even sell it for more than I bought it for if I were so inclined. Anyway, I wonder if a computer/tablet bag or a bag that has a padded space for a tablet might be something that would be popular.
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post #77 of 78
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Originally Posted by Archos View Post

There is not a practical cover that will "protect" your iPad if you drop it on the floor. Maybe you should put it in a briefcase bigger than a notebook computer in case you drop it.

There's no affordable insurance for being a moron. If you can't manage not to drop things, don't buy electronics. What kind of hyper-protective case do you need for your keyboard, watch, notebook, remote control, glasses, ect.

So dropping stuff makes you a moron? Wow.
And you shouldn't be buying electronics when dropping things? Wow. I'll think about that next time when I watch TV, start my car, turn on the lights or make coffee. I'd better replace the lights with torches. Now that's safe.

Anyway.

Accidents happen to everyone. That's why 95% of the iPhone buyers buy rubber/hard covers protecting much more than this "Smart Cover" does. Perhaps the cover should be labeled "Moron Cover"?
post #78 of 78
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Originally Posted by Proximityeffect View Post

You should probably learn the difference between the words cover and case, then reread the article and then you can participate in the comments section with the grownups.

Ah, the language purist. You must be a very wise man. Nah, probably a very insecure one.

...Cover, case, whatever. This is clearly a case (whaha! case! haha!) of protection. And it sucks at it.
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