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Hey give the US a chance, we are only a couple of years in recovery after all those years of pro creationism and other anti-science madness. I think we are about 27th or thereabouts now. Hopefully we can do something serious about math and science teaching over the next few years. The Intel sponsored kids science fair was pretty cool the other day. One thing I do notice if how many more hours of class and homework kids in the leading math and science countries put in. In the end though it may be more about parental attitudes, in those countries teachers are respected and science isn't constantly being attacked as being liberal and leftist.

Oh Boo Hoo! I probably should have resisted the impulse to respond. You are either very young or very stupid - probably both. The downturn in math and science coincides with a turning away from what you call "creationism." You probably read it hear first, it is going to get a lot worse.
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btw partial quoting can be misleading. Just saying

I always partially quote people and just address a particular sentence or two that I'm replying to. I don't break off sentences midway and I certainly don't do any Michael Moore like tricks.
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You cannot think of any recent example of corrupt and morally bankrupt people in the western developed world? No examples of massive amounts of stolen and wasted resources that don't help those of need in the end? Does the western world not have to pull itself of its own hole?

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I find many third world countries to be so utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt that even when massive aid is given, vast amounts are stolen and wasted and in the end, it doesn't really help those who are in need of it. Primitive societies will have to dig themselves out of their own holes. That's the way I see it at least.
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Thanks I was trying to discover this info, it's not easy. So time to buy more AAPL while everyone assumes iPad 2 is doomed

Apple should make a press release letting us know that workers at Apple Japan and contractor´s sites are OK and that manufacturing is up and running. Meanwhile, I´m buying APPL
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You cannot think of any recent example of corrupt and morally bankrupt people in the western developed world? No examples of massive amounts of stolen and wasted resources that don't help those of need in the end? Does the western world not have to pull itself of its own hole?

I'm not claiming that the western, developed world is perfect, far from it. I just think that the level of corruption is far, far greater in many third world countries.
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Apple should make a press release letting us know that workers at Apple Japan and contractor´s sites are OK and that manufacturing is up and running. Meanwhile, I´m buying APPL

That wouldn't work out so well if it isn't the truth...
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I'm not claiming that the western, developed world is perfect, far from it. I just think that the level of corruption is far, far greater in many third world countries.

Hungry people tend to be more desperate...
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Yeah, core meltdowns, reactor breaches, and MOX fuel fires are so overhyped. I bet those guys with the fire hoses struggling to prevent a phreatic explosion in a dark, highly radioactive nuclear plant think it's really over hyped too.

Are you kidding me? They just suffered from the 5th-strongest recorded earthquake (at least since record-keeping began around 1900) and a giant tsunami. You can wait a little longer for your iPad.
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What caught my eye, and perhaps more significant in long run


"... advanced ... manufacturing technologies that reside in Japan


Doubt that refers to $5.00 a day sweat shop laborers working some assembly line

So why aren't we doing that here in USA ?

Oh, forgot ...

Our Nation Public School Systems are 93rd in World in Math and Science
(or something like that)

But our Football and Basketball and Baseball Programs are # 1
(yes, we're Number 1, we're Number 1)

And, we have Star Search - is THE route to Fame and Fortune
(or might hit the Lotto)

Yea, silly Japanese, what do they know

Now, what was that TV channel for March Madness ?

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I have hired people with 2 years of college or more + U/S training for medical stuff and they can not do simple area and volume calculations. Worse is when do not understand the concept of showing up on time and have an attitude. Then they quite and claim they got fired and apply for unemployment. It is not everybody, but it is quite common.

Why do you think the free market values Lexus, BMW more than an equivalent GM?
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Oh Boo Hoo! I probably should have resisted the impulse to respond. You are either very young or very stupid - probably both. The downturn in math and science coincides with a turning away from what you call "creationism." You probably read it hear first, it is going to get a lot worse.

We are way of topic ... but ... Are you are saying math and science would improve if we taught creationism? Or am I reading your post incorrectly?

I am not young and like to think I'm not stupid but hey that's just my opinion.

p.s. That's spelled 'here' not 'hear'
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Hungry people tend to be more desperate...

So true.
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post #92 of 125
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We are way of topic ... but ... Are you are saying math and science would improve if we taught creationism? Or am I reading your post incorrectly?)

You took the bait...

The decline of math and science in the US mysteriously coincides with the increase in math and science skills in China, a place not known for teaching of creationism.

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I have hired people with 2 years of college or more + U/S training for medical stuff and they can not do simple area and volume calculations. Worse is when do not understand the concept of showing up on time and have an attitude. Then they quite and claim they got fired and apply for unemployment. It is not everybody, but it is quite common.

Why do you think the free market values Lexus, BMW more than an equivalent GM?

Did you know that until about a year ago, an american was the head of design (for 17 years) of BMW? They bought an american design firm outright to take over their car design. Many of the big Japanese car firms also have bought or use american design studios as well. The US is also still the center of automotive engineering.
The proverbial low quality of science training in american schools may be true for people who don't go into technical fields, but we still produce amazing scientists and engineers. People from all over the world come here for access to the best the world has to offer in science and technology training, education, and work opportunities.
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I always partially quote people and just address a particular sentence or two that I'm replying to. I don't break off sentences midway and I certainly don't do any Michael Moore like tricks.

Ok but Check out how DESuserIGN is now being partially quoted on this page (Yeah, core meltdowns) , now being taken to mean the reverse of what he actually was intending ... being sarcastic. He is being attacked by someone who in fact thinks as he does but doesn't realize it. The study of blog missunderstannding is a PhD in psychology waiting to be done. Or maybe it has already been done:
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You took the bait...

The decline of math and science in the US mysteriously coincides with the increase in math and science skills in China, a place not known for teaching of creationism.

haha, well at least I asked politely as I wasn't sure. The spelling dig was a defense reaction to being insulted, my bad.
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Did you know that until about a year ago, an american was the head of design (for 17 years) of BMW? They bought an american design firm outright to take over their car design. Many of the big Japanese car firms also have bought or use american design studios as well. The US is also still the center of automotive engineering.
The proverbial low quality of science training in american schools may be true for people who don't go into technical fields, but we still produce amazing scientists and engineers. People from all over the world come here for access to the best the world has to offer in science and technology training, education, and work opportunities.

You nailed it in the last part. We offer the best training but more and more it is students from overseas coming here that are excelling. We need to get more of the home grown students heading the same way. America can be the leader again I am sure.
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Did you know that until about a year ago, an american was the head of design (for 17 years) of BMW? They bought an american design firm outright to take over their car design. Many of the big Japanese car firms also have bought or use american design studios as well. The US is also still the center of automotive engineering.
The proverbial low quality of science training in american schools may be true for people who don't go into technical fields, but we still produce amazing scientists and engineers. People from all over the world come here for access to the best the world has to offer in science and technology training, education, and work opportunities.

It's true what you say about the US producing some of the best engineers and scientists in the world and that foreign auto manufacturers use US design firms... but, until recently, that ability sure didn't transfer over into the production end of (on edit) big three made vehicles.
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Ok but Check out how DESuserIGN is now being partially quoted on this page, now being taken to mean the reverse of what he actually was intending ...

Yes, I did notice that.

Sarcasm is not always interpreted correctly on the internet.
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Ok but Check out how DESuserIGN is now being partially quoted on this page, now being taken to mean the reverse of what he actually was intending ... being sarcastic. He is being attacked by someone who in fact thinks as he does but doesn't realize it. The study of blog missunderstannding is a PhD in psychology waiting to be done. Or maybe it has already been done:

I just ignored it.
Why bother to respond to someone who can't even read carefully? Plus, thinking the best of people, sarcasm is often easily missed.
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I just ignored it.
Why bother to respond to someone who can't even read carefully? Plus, thinking the best of people, sarcasm is often easily missed.

Right. It is imperative to add <sarcasm> for that very reason!
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Yes, I did notice that.

Sarcasm is not always interpreted correctly on the internet.

Especially out of context.
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Right. It is imperative to add <sarcasm> for that very reason!


Clueless. He said you are young and stupid. He hasn't been around here very long.

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It's true what you say about the US producing some of the best engineers and scientists in the world and that foreign auto manufacturers use US design firms... but, until recently, that ability sure didn't transfer over into the production end of the goods.

Not really. Car manufacturing is far more than design and engineering.
They produced high quality, highly profitable vehicles that people (stupidly) wanted (SUVs.) The real problems were with marketing, finance, management, etc. The single biggest problem was the unsustainable defined benefit obligations they entered into with the UAW (not a science, tech, or design issue.) Now that they are unencumbered their true profitability is unleashed. [adding– The financial pressures of these obligations forced them to make only relatively large expensive vehicles because of the higher profit margin. This got them in a bad way when people suddenly wanted smaller cars that were not as profitable.]

(I know some will disagree here -) Too bad we didn't get a single payer health insurance system with Obama (although he never promised it, as he's far more moderate than Republicans believe.) The finance (which is also a technology) failure situation was used to scare folks and prevented it. Moving the medical care obligation from industry to government and making it portable for workers would have made us far more competitive with the rest of the world.
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Clueless. He said you are young and stupid. He hasn't been around here very long.

Hey I like being called young

Not reading my footer was a clue he wasn't too sharp.
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Right. It is imperative to add <sarcasm> for that very reason!

I think that the beauty of sarcasm is lost then if people have to add tags at the end of what they write. Most people will get and understand well written sarcasm. The few that don't, well, that's their problem, in my opinion. I love sarcasm, and I can't imagine having to keep adding tags if I wrote something that was sarcastic.
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Not really. Car manufacturing is far more than design and engineering.
They produced high quality, highly profitable vehicles that people (stupidly) wanted (SUVs.) The real problems were with marketing, finance, management, etc. The single biggest problem was the unsustainable defined benefit obligations they entered into with the UAW (not a science, tech, or design issue.) Now that they are unencumbered their true profitability is unleashed.

I wasn't talking about profitability... I was talking about the GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles of the 70s, 80s and 90s that that had a much lower reliability rating than the vehicles manufactured by the Japanese (some of which were/are manufactured in the US).

[wasn't this thread originally about iPad2 supply constraints caused by the disaster in Japan ]
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I wasn't talking about profitability... I was talking about the GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles of the 70s, 80s and 90s that that had a much lower reliability rating than the vehicles manufactured by the Japanese (some of which were/are manufactured in the US).

[wasn't this thread originally about iPad2 supply constraints caused by the disaster in Japan ]

LOL
yes it was. but . . .
70s and 80's yes. But again, it was more a matter of leadership resistance than engineering. They tried to solve the CAFE issue with lobbying and campaign donations rather than allowing the designers and engineers to use their creativity. American cars had caught up by the 90s, but the damage was done. [BTW I'm driving a 96 Saturn with over 200k miles on it and people always think it's only a 4 or 5 years old (if they have no style sense.) Pretty darn good car.]
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I think that the beauty of sarcasm is lost then if people have to add tags at the end of what they write. Most people will get and understand well written sarcasm. The few that don't, well, that's their problem, in my opinion. I love sarcasm, and I can't imagine having to keep adding tags if I wrote something that was sarcastic.

I know, but the flaming you get from all the knuckleheads taking you literally gets pretty old.
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I know, but the flaming you get from all the knuckleheads taking you literally gets pretty old.

I have to admit that I always get a good laugh when people miss obvious sarcasm. I try to make my sarcasm obvious, but am amused when it's missed. I hate when it causes an unending chain reaction of sarcasm and/or self-righteous indignation though.
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I know, but the flaming you get from all the knuckleheads taking you literally gets pretty old.

But if the forum allow people to add a "laughing at you" tag to the post of those knuckleheads, it would be really fun.
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The GPS can only tell where you are, and if you move, which direction you are moving. But it can't tell which direction you are facing. If GPS was accurate within inches, then you could put two GPS sensors in the device and determine which direction you are facing, but beyond that, magnets are the only way.

It does need to be accurate to within inches. It just needs to be able to measure the time difference it takes for the signal to reach each antenna. That's the way your ears work to determine which direction a sound comes from. We are not that good at it, but owls and bats are extremely good at locating things this way.
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Especially out of context.

To quote Winston Churchill, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and the weapon of the uneducated"
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I think we would like to believe this to minimize our corruption. The results of the corruption of some third world banana republic is minimal to the results of corruption in the western world. Our corruption affects everything.

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I'm not claiming that the western, developed world is perfect, far from it. I just think that the level of corruption is far, far greater in many third world countries.
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To quote Winston Churchill, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and the weapon of the uneducated"

Winston Churchill was a renowned wit expert.
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To quote Winston Churchill, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and the weapon of the uneducated"

Oddly enough... Winston wasn't above sarcasm himself.
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To quote Winston Churchill, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and the weapon of the uneducated"

I think he was being sarcastic.
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But if the forum allow people to add a "laughing at you" tag to the post of those knuckleheads, it would be really fun.

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...have huge groups of people at every single Apple store.

Wrong.

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.Apple has tried to do something about the Asian scalpers in the past but Apple was warned by the Attorney General that they can't discriminate based on race.

Did Jobs tell you this directly?

Because a google search on this topic turns up only your post.

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Wrong.



Did Jobs tell you this directly?

Because a google search on this topic turns up only your post.


You might possibly be the worst Googler in the history of the entire world.

Asian Scalpers Are Wiping Out Apple's Supply Of iPad 2s In New York (AAPL)

http://onespot.wsj.com/small-busines...ing-out-apples

Apple must stop iPad 2 scalpers NOW

http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/ar...NOW/1300462970

iPad cads scalping buyers

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/i...=true#comments

Chinese scalpers rush to purchase iPad2

http://www.chinahush.com/2011/03/18/...urchase-ipad2/
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Hey give the US a chance, we are only a couple of years in recovery after all those years of pro creationism and other anti-science madness. I think we are about 27th or thereabouts now. Hopefully we can do something serious about math and science teaching over the next few years. The Intel sponsored kids science fair was pretty cool the other day. One thing I do notice if how many more hours of class and homework kids in the leading math and science countries put in. In the end though it may be more about parental attitudes, in those countries teachers are respected and science isn't constantly being attacked as being liberal and leftist.

No, southern states are growing in population and political power. I doubt the us will see a growth in native born scientists any time soon. We have to rely on importing top talent from courtries that can actually raise scientists. Weve been pretty successful at importing top talent from smart countries but I dunno how long that will last as we are getting more and more broke while richest countries seem to be in asia now or at least ones with least financial difficulties and most growth.
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