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Someone made their weekend troll bonus. This thread was completely ruined by Sue Denim...

Yes it's up there with the greats, those of whom we shall not name. Note of course her extensive list of Apple products owned. That's always a dead giveaway.
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I'm an American half Asian, half Mutt from what my father says.

I don't like this either. I regret that it seems to be Asians that are doing this, but it's still a problem. I don't think it would be any different if it were, pardon my speech, 'white American looking people', that were buying iPad 2's and selling them on E- bay.

I do agree it should be 1 per person for now. Until they get enough of them out there.

Are you all able to distinguish if they are actual foreigners, or more recent immigrants, or more naturalised Americans? I think these are more of the distinguishing factors than just being Chinese, etc. For example, I'm betting it is most likely recent immigrants who would be able to bridge countries to facilitate transactions, while at the same time not be naturalised enough to get out of their "make a quick US buck" homegrown mentality. It could be outright foreigners but they'd have to mobilise a large network of people to pull off all the scalping, plus they'd have to actually be somehow living in New York.
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Doesn't matter if you agree or not. But even though I want one (and will probably get one), some cons include:
4) lack of Flash (if you don't like it, turn it off. Some of us want it).
5) lack of integrated USB/Video or SD card (far more convenient way to transfer information without dragging around dongles)
6) lack of keyboard option (so far),
7) and so far, Apple seems to artificially be limiting availability. (No one seriously believes Apple couldn't offer better availability if they wanted, do they?)

Based on reviews, I'd also question Safari's performance (compared to Android's) - though I haven't found that to be a big limiter for myself.

Sounds like you're describing a laptop. Why not just get a 13" Macbook Pro or 11" Air and run their Mac App Store apps?
post #124 of 220
Waiting for Xcode 4 to download here. I did my Hello World in Xcode 3, hopefully will try out more stuff soon. It's probably a good sign I'm more interested in that rather than a new iPad 2 at the moment. Let them eat scalp!
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Yes it's up there with the greats, those of whom we shall not name. Note of course her extensive list of Apple products owned. That's always a dead giveaway.

The posting style tells me its a guy. The name Sue obviously comes from the pronunciation of pseudonym. I think its likely it one of the previous trolls under an alias they made last year. It does sound a lot like iGenius, though not as braindead as Teckstud and less rancorous than DaHarder. Regardless, Id bet money its a guy.


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Waiting for Xcode 4 to download here. I did my Hello World in Xcode 3, hopefully will try out more stuff soon. It's probably a good sign I'm more interested in that rather than a new iPad 2 at the moment. Let them eat scalp!

Im downloading Xcode 4 for Lion right now. Ive never been one for coding but Ive decided to go ahead and give it a shot this summer, but it looks I have more free time than I expected this Spring so I might just get started a little sooner.
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post #126 of 220
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The posting style tells me its a guy. The name Sue obviously comes from the pronunciation of pseudonym. I think its likely it one of the previous trolls under an alias they made last year. It does sound a lot like iGenius, though not as braindead as Teckstud and less rancorous than DaHarder. Regardless, Id bet money its a guy.

If I recall correctly, there was another SueDenim/Sue Denim/Sue_Denim that trolled several months ago, very pro-Flash/Adobe.
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post #127 of 220
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very pro-Flash/Adobe.

They must also be very pro-advertisements, as that is one of the main uses for Flash.

I disable Flash on all of my Macs, I don't like to be bombarded with crappy ads that I have no interest in seeing when visiting web sites. Disabling Flash also makes for a much smoother web experience, especially on mobile devices. Instead of Flash ads showing up, there's an empty grey box on my Macs instead, and often there's many of them on a single web page. That tells you how many crappy ads are out there.

15 million iPad 1's sold in 2010 is also proof that many people simply don't care about or want flash anymore.

The people who often complain the most about the iPad not having Flash are pro-Android people, and those people are cheapskates, as many apps in the Android market place are built around advertisements. They don't mind advertisements in their apps, as they don't like to spend any money. So I'm not surprised that they would be pro-Flash. There's not much else that they can criticize the iPad for, so Flash seems to be one of their last talking points.

Flash needs to die. In the meantime, millions and millions of people who do represent customers with a significant amount of purchasing power will simply ignore Flash until it does eventually die out.
post #128 of 220
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Withdrawn, fell for this trolls comments. Added to ignore list

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post #129 of 220
"The system also seems more likely to stop responding for a few moments, something I've never before witnessed in an iOS device."

You obviously haven't owned an iPhone 3G with iOS 4! Haha

Great review.
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They must also be very pro-advertisements, as that is one of the main uses for Flash.

I disable Flash on all of my Macs, I don't like to be bombarded with crappy ads that I have no interest in seeing when visiting web sites. Disabling Flash also makes for a much smoother web experience, especially on mobile devices. Instead of Flash ads showing up, there's an empty grey box on my Macs instead, and often there's many of them on a single web page. That tells you how many crappy ads are out there.

15 million iPad 1's sold in 2010 is also proof that many people simply don't care about or want flash anymore.

Actually, it's proof that 15 Million ipads were sold in 2010. Nothing more and nothing less.

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The people who often complain the most about the iPad not having Flash are pro-Android people, and those people are cheapskates, as many apps in the Android market place are built around advertisements. They don't mind advertisements in their apps, as they don't like to spend any money. So I'm not surprised that they would be pro-Flash. There's not much else that they can criticize the iPad for, so Flash seems to be one of their last talking points.

Logic fail on so many levels. For a start, there's a ton of apps shovelling ads your way on iOS as well. I guess that makes iOS users cheapskates too. It's obviously a model that works universally.

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Flash needs to die. In the meantime, millions and millions of people who do represent customers with a significant amount of purchasing power will simply ignore Flash until it does eventually die out.

What goes in its place? You know, for video or heavily interactive content? As it happens I disable flash too, primarily for the same reasons you do. Right now, there is no viable alternative. The fact that it's rubbish on mobile devices says nothing about how equally rubbish html5 + js is, and can be, in the same context. Complex content requires resources. There's no getting around that.
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Actually, it's proof that 15 Million ipads were sold in 2010. Nothing more and nothing less.

No, I'd say that it's proof that not having Flash in a tablet is not a big deal at all, since the facts are that the biggest selling and most popular tablet does not have flash. The overwhelming majority of people who bought tablets do not care at all about Flash, otherwise they wouldn't have bought an iPad if not having Flash was a big deal.

For the extremely small minority of people who do believe that Flash is important, they can go and buy a Xoom or some other tablet. And from what I've read Flash is pretty poor on those other tablets also. Most other people will continue to buy iPads.
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It's a good question. I think Apple should build a small airport router/hard disk, sort of a "Time Capsule light" - with that, and a couple of management apps on the iPad, Apple could sell this bundle to those that don't want a computer.

My thoughts exactly. I think there should be three options:

1. Management components (for activation, sync and backup) and storage could reside on a local computer. Basically the current solution.
2. Management components and storage could be provided by the TimeCapsule-like device you suggested.
3. Management and storage could be provided as a cloud service. Additionally, the cloud data could be synched with local storage (solutions 1 and 2) automatically and transparently.
post #133 of 220
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You just said you could activate it on your PC but you choose not to. That's spiteful.

What the hell are you talking about? She lives on the other side of the country. Besides, I'm tech support for enough relations already. You just don't get it. You need a PC to set it up and that's a con.
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post #134 of 220
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iPad! Bah! I just filed my taxes using Free File Fillable Forms. It's all Flash based. Try doing that with an iPad.

People waiting in lines to get one of these things. Unbelievable. Just get a real Mac and be done with it.

Flash won't be around forever. Even Mozilla are now jumping on the bandwagon. And MS are getting behind HTML5.
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post #135 of 220
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Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

Scalpers exist because there's demand in China, period. There's a whole bunch of ultra-rich people in China that wants to play with the iPad2 right now, they don't want to wait, that's why they're willing to buy from the scalpers at inflated price. I don't see the point to complain about this huge demand of iPad2 from these Chinese people, they're also humans and they should also be allowed to buy iPad2, not to mention that it's actually Chinese workers who made most of them.

That's actually a very good point. Most Westerners have a sense of entitlement about everything.
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post #136 of 220
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Originally Posted by Aeolian View Post

I'm an American half Asian, half Mutt from what my father says.

I don't like this either. I regret that it seems to be Asians that are doing this, but it's still a problem. I don't think it would be any different if it were, pardon my speech, 'white American looking people', that were buying iPad 2's and selling them on E- bay.

I do agree it should be 1 per person for now. Until they get enough of them out there.

The obvious way to avoid this is simultaneous international launch. There's no reason Apple shouldn't do it. A LOT of the scalped iPads are being sold in Hong Kong, for instance, and -- guess what -- Hong Kong isn't even on the list of countries for the first international launch! This is plain stupid, as I'm sure Hong Kong sells far more iPads than half the countries getting them earlier. You want to avoid scalpers, sell them here. That's all I'm saying.
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The obvious way to avoid this is simultaneous international launch. There's no reason Apple shouldn't do it. A LOT of the scalped iPads are being sold in Hong Kong, for instance, and -- guess what -- Hong Kong isn't even on the list of countries for the first international launch! This is plain stupid, as I'm sure Hong Kong sells far more iPads than half the countries getting them earlier. You want to avoid scalpers, sell them here. That's all I'm saying.

Oh, yes. Launching the iPad in 100 countries at the same time is definitely going to provide better availability than launching in a few countries at a time.

The obvious fact is that there aren't enough even for the U.S. at this point. How in the world do you think that launching in other countries would improve availability? Apple could only make so many - and has chosen a phased launch.

Even if they DID release it in every country simultaneously, it wouldn't prevent scalping. Do you really think that the bigwigs with lots of money would stand in line? Obviously not - they'd still buy one from a scalper.

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"Spiteful" is a very strange choice of words. So tell me then, what does my Aunt do when she gets her iPad (if she bought one), given that there is no Apple Store in my country, she doesn't have a PC or a Mac, and she lives the other side of the country to me? True story.

OK. There are 3 people on the planet who would like to buy an iPad but have no access to an Apple store or a PC. They can't have one until they make some friends.

It's silly to pick an incredibly rare situation that almost never occurs in the target market and use it as an attack on the product.

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iPad! Bah! I just filed my taxes using Free File Fillable Forms. It's all Flash based. Try doing that with an iPad.

People waiting in lines to get one of these things. Unbelievable. Just get a real Mac and be done with it.

Obviously, you're another person who doesn't have any idea what the purpose of the iPad is.

Just because you can't use YOUR chosen software doesn't make the product bad. There are other ways to do your taxes besides Free File.

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I'm not saying Asians/Chinese are the only ones scalping, but see this video.

Perhaps Apple should limit 1 per customer and require in store activation or come up with better solutions to this if they can.

That's one of the few good ideas I've seen - at least the 1 per customer. I would agree completely with a 1 per customer limit while the product is in short supply. I don't like the in-store activation. That simply slows everything down and creates huge bottlenecks.
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post #138 of 220
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That's actually a very good point. Most Westerners have a sense of entitlement about everything.

Actually, I sympathise with the "Westerners". The rich Chinese in China that are buying it mostly don't even give a SH*T about what an iPad actually is, as long as they have "the latest and greatest Apple thing". In Asia Apple is all about status and "lifestyle" ie. needing to show you have money. Edit: to show that you are "making money". To show that you are rich enough to have the latest from wherever in the world without having to wait like the common peon.

I'd be annoyed if my local Apple Stores were just continually overrun by scalpers. I won't be getting my iPad 2 from the US though, I'll try to get mine from Australia, and yes, it could be from a "scalper" but I guess the consolation is he does about 15 units each weekly trip from Malaysia to Australia. He doesn't lead an army of hundreds scalping hundreds of units at a time... Actually, I don't know how many trips he is going to do for iPad 2. He mentions it can be quite tiring.

I mean some scalping will always happen but it sounds like the NYC situation is totally, absolutely out of control.
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Oh, yes. Launching the iPad in 100 countries at the same time is definitely going to provide better availability than launching in a few countries at a time. :roll eyes:

Of course, it's a totally ridiculous and deranged idea.

They can't even launch in 1 country properly right now, I'd hate to see what would happen if it were 100.

One other reason that some countries get theirs later is because I think that carrier agreements are not always in place in every country at the same time, and those countries will get theirs later.
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I think the term "Post-PC Device" is being interpreted differently here than how Steve Jobs defined it.

Jobs referenced the term at the D5 Conference (where he shared the stage with Bill Gates) by identifying what he called a "category of devices" distinct from "general purpose PCs" that are "more focused on specific functions" like iPods, phones, and cameras.

Walt Mossberg drew his attention to the notion that these "Post-PC Devices" are just computers in a different form factor and Jobs' response was:
"We're getting to the point where everything's a computer in a different form factor. So, so what? Right? So what if it's built with a computer inside it? It doesn't matter. It's, what is it? How do you use it? You know, how does the consumer approach it? And so, who cares what's inside it anymore?" Following his thinking about "Post-PC Devices", one could also make the argument that it doesn't matter what they connect or sync to, or how, or how often, or even why. It's how we use these things. As Jobs noted, the PC as a general purpose device will "continue to be with us and morph with us" as a digital hub of various sorts and in evolving form factors, but Post-PC Devices have tended to be more specialized, and what we could do with them, up to now, has been decidedly different.

Jobs and Gates at D5 went on to predict that these devices will become more and more powerful and capable, and this has certainly come to pass. Tasks that were once restricted to PCs is now possible on Post-PC Devices, but many of the legacy user functions and responsibilities are gone. Complicated input methods and file management are absent (or virtually so) on these devices.

Perhaps more importantly, the proliferation of multitouch is changing the way we interact with our data, allowing us to physically manipulate it with our fingers. Our usage of these devices is so intuitive and natural (and becoming increasingly more so) that we can use them almost without thinking about it. Long-standing traditional computer interaction is now, by contrast, revealed to be intrusive and even obstructive.

For Jobs, the term "Post-PC Device" is more about the "experience" of using these devices, rather than how technologically dependent they are on PCs.

Excellent post!

I would add that, in a "Post-PC Device", the role of the OS changes -- rather than an active-participant/control-center, the OS becomes invisible!

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post #141 of 220
I suppose the trolls have a Faux Noise-type list of Talking Points to worm into the stinkbombs they explode on every Applecentric forum, but still, the double standard they expect us to use when evaluating Apple's performance and motivations is gob-smacking. (Not as gob-smacking as the number of people who eat their crap with a spoon, but nevertheless gob-smacking.)

Hard drive manufacturers start quoting their drive sizes in decimal. Apple calls the drives by their manufacturer's designations. Your 160 GB HD formats out at 149. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Apple rewrites Snow Leopard to have a smaller footprint, and tells people to expect a little more drive space. Meanwhile they've been "fatigued into compliance" and start formatting in decimal. There's a huge jump when installing SL. "They started formatting your drives differently to decieve you!" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Apple has a product that's so popular that their manufacturers and distribution channels can't meet the demand. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Last time (on the iPad 1) Apple wouldn't accept cash to prevent scalping. "What about people who don't have credit cards?" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

This time they accept cash and scalping is rampant. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

They allowed online preorders of the Verizon iPhone, and there were no lines worth mentioning. "Lol! The launch was a failure! Apple is Doooomed!!!!"

They don't allow online preorders of the iPad 2. "It's just a plot to make the lines longer and get news coverage!" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Meanwhile, Microsoft always, always, quotes "units shipped" as if they were actually sold, not sitting in warehouses all over the world, and the tech press breathlessly reports their wild success! Silence!

Samsung does the same thing and even uses that number to divide into the number of returns to get a seemingly low rate. Silence!

Samsung tries to spin a statement by one of their executives that "Sales were quite small" by replacing the word "small" with "smooth", a word which makes absolutely no sense in context, "Oh well then, that's different!" Can you even imagine if Steve Jobs tried such a lame-ass "correction"? They'd laugh their spleens out!

Now it's hard to get an iPad 2. Suppose Apple did what they want, manufactured and distributed tens of millions of units before even announcing them, thus avoiding all "hype", somehow stored them in space-warps in each store (same technology as the Reality Distortion Field I guess) and had them all ready to hand out on launch day. Can you imagine the outcry if this became known beforehand? Apple "Keeping iPads from customers who want one"? It would be the crime of the century!

What I really want is for one, just one, of these people to actually suggest something (and not insane crap like Pseudonym did earlier) that would make them happy, that would meanto themthat Apple was doing something right. They can't. because in their universe, Apple can do no right!
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Besides, I'm tech support for enough relations already. You just don't get it. You need a PC to set it up and that's a con.

No, you just don't get it. It's simply the state of things at this point in time.
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As has been noted, Post-PC here is a term that refers to point-of-use. In the Post-PC era, PCs still exist but their role is changed. They act more as hubs than as the direct interface. So, your PC is at your desk, your iPad is used on your bed or sofa or somewhat mobile (Ie., remote but mobile) and your phone is used when you're completely mobile.

My interest has been piqued by this wireless Library sharing...Kind of overcomes the capacity issues because I don't need to sync it all. Plus I kinda figure that I don't actually need to put my media on an iPad, because my iPhone will always be there when I'm out and about.

So I'm toying with the idea of getting a 32GB iPad 2 in the summer.

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How does grandma set it up without a PC?

Using his?
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[QUOTE=solipsism;1831837]The posting style tells me its a guy. The name Sue obviously comes from the pronunciation of pseudonym. I think its likely it one of the previous trolls under an alias they made last year. It does sound a lot like iGenius, though not as braindead as Teckstud and less rancorous than DaHarder. Regardless, Id bet money its a guy.


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Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post

I suppose the trolls have a Faux Noise-type list of Talking Points™ to worm into the stinkbombs they explode on every Applecentric forum, but still, the double standard they expect us to use when evaluating Apple's performance and motivations is gob-smacking. (Not as gob-smacking as the number of people who eat their crap with a spoon, but nevertheless gob-smacking.)

Hard drive manufacturers start quoting their drive sizes in decimal. Apple calls the drives by their manufacturer's designations. Your 160 GB HD formats out at 149. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Apple rewrites Snow Leopard to have a smaller footprint, and tells people to expect a little more drive space. Meanwhile they've been "fatigued into compliance" and start formatting in decimal. There's a huge jump when installing SL. "They started formatting your drives differently to decieve you!" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Apple has a product that's so popular that their manufacturers and distribution channels can't meet the demand. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Last time (on the iPad 1) Apple wouldn't accept cash to prevent scalping. "What about people who don't have credit cards?" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

This time they accept cash and scalping is rampant. Crime!! Conspiracy!!

They allowed online preorders of the Verizon iPhone, and there were no lines worth mentioning. "Lol! The launch was a failure! Apple is Doooomed!!!!"

They don't allow online preorders of the iPad 2. "It's just a plot to make the lines longer and get news coverage!" Crime!! Conspiracy!!

Meanwhile, Microsoft always, always, quotes "units shipped" as if they were actually sold, not sitting in warehouses all over the world, and the tech press breathlessly reports their wild success! Silence!

Samsung does the same thing and even uses that number to divide into the number of returns to get a seemingly low rate. Silence!

Samsung tries to spin a statement by one of their executives that "Sales were quite small" by replacing the word "small" with "smooth", a word which makes absolutely no sense in context, "Oh well then, that's different!" Can you even imagine if Steve Jobs tried such a lame-ass "correction"? They'd laugh their spleens out!

Now it's hard to get an iPad 2. Suppose Apple did what they want, manufactured and distributed tens of millions of units before even announcing them, thus avoiding all "hype", somehow stored them in space-warps in each store (same technology as the Reality Distortion Field™ I guess) and had them all ready to hand out on launch day. Can you imagine the outcry if this became known beforehand? Apple "Keeping iPads from customers who want one"? It would be the crime of the century!

What I really want is for one, just one, of these people to actually suggest something (and not insane crap like Pseudonym did earlier) that would make them happy, that would mean—to them—that Apple was doing something right. They can't. because in their universe, Apple can do no right!

Sad thing is, and your examples are spot-on, I bet there's about a hundred times more of them, on practically everything Apple manufactures, reports, says or do. Being anti Apple is a religion, and while some Apple enthusiasts also exhibit the same sort of reality distorted reasoning, nothing can be gained by arguing with them.

If only the Apple haters could stay away from AI. I mean I don't go post on Android forums to flame their products,first I can't care less about trying to force my opinion on others and second I care even less about what "most" people use. I have my opinion and as long as I'm satisfied with the products I use I will stay a loyal customer, no matter what some trolls objects to it. But if only they could stay away from here and let others be different...
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What the hell are you talking about? She lives on the other side of the country. Besides, I'm tech support for enough relations already. You just don't get it. You need a PC to set it up and that's a con.

I hear you on the relatives (add in friends and neighbors) support thing

On the 'con' thing ... it would only be a con if Apple hid that fact. On the up side, as pointed out, it is a hell of a lot safer than a cloud based system at this juncture in time. Also there are millions (billions) of old PCs out there that can run iTunes and have USB. They are so numerous Good Will have signs saying they don't want any more around here. So for now at least there is no shortage of free 'base stations' for iPads. Just think, if you wipe an old PC, install XP and only ran iTunes they might actually work! There is a business opportunity there. "Save our land fills from PCs, turn one into an iPad base station"
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So is anyone having a hard time buying a xoom or tab?
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So is anyone having a hard time buying a xoom or tab?

You'd have to want one to know I guess hence the sparsity of info on that!

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The posting style tells me its a guy. The name Sue obviously comes from the pronunciation of pseudonym. I think its likely it one of the previous trolls under an alias they made last year. It does sound a lot like iGenius, though not as braindead as Teckstud and less rancorous than DaHarder. Regardless, Id bet money its a guy. ...

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If I recall correctly, there was another SueDenim/Sue Denim/Sue_Denim that trolled several months ago, very pro-Flash/Adobe.

Yes, exactly, "Sue" is an Adobe shill who was previously banned.

I particularly found the comment about how you should always have the same number of pros and cons for the purpose of "objectivity" ridiculously amusing. Under this theory of reviewing a product, not only should a great product have the same number of cons pointed out as a crappy product, but a crappy product should have the same number of pros pointed out as a great product. According to this logic, you either have to ignore some of the pros of great products, or the cons of crappy products, or your review isn't "objective". This is the sort of total inversion of logic that dishonest shilling leads to, especially when you work for a company like Adobe and are trying to promote Flash.
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Yes, exactly, "Sue" is an Adobe shill who was previously banned.

I particularly found the comment about how you should always have the same number of pros and cons for the purpose of "objectivity" ridiculously amusing. Under this theory of reviewing a product, not only should a great product have the same number of cons pointed out as a crappy product, but a crappy product should have the same number of pros pointed out as a great product. According to this logic, you either have to ignore some of the pros of great products, or the cons of crappy products, or your review isn't "objective". This is the sort of total inversion of logic that dishonest shilling leads to, especially when you work for a company like Adobe and are trying to promote Flash.

Kind of like ... On the one hand I agree on the other I don't
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Yes, exactly, "Sue" is an Adobe shill who was previously banned.

Exactly, "Sue" has made some posts from Adobe IPs.
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Oh, yes. Launching the iPad in 100 countries at the same time is definitely going to provide better availability than launching in a few countries at a time.

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

I said nothing about solving the availability problem. I was talking about solving the scalping problem.

Simultaneous launch will have a net zero effect on availability. It will, however, have a positive effect on discouraging scalping.
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My thoughts exactly. I think there should be three options:

1. Management components (for activation, sync and backup) and storage could reside on a local computer. Basically the current solution.
2. Management components and storage could be provided by the TimeCapsule-like device you suggested.
3. Management and storage could be provided as a cloud service. Additionally, the cloud data could be synched with local storage (solutions 1 and 2) automatically and transparently.

Agreed - although I don't know if 3) is plausible yet. Well, in some areas - it's too slow to backup 64GB of data. It could be a business opportunity for Internet providers so that you only have to upload to your ISPs servers and not over the general Internet. "Want an iPad but don't have a PC? Backup with us for only $5 extra per month!"
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You'd have to want one to know I guess hence the sparsity of info on that!

http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/03/11...lling-so-well/

Poor other tablets. No one wants to scalp them.
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They can't even launch in 1 country properly right now, I'd hate to see what would happen if it were 100.

There would be a negative effect on availability in the US. There would be a positive effect on availability everywhere else.
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One other reason that some countries get theirs later is because I think that carrier agreements are not always in place in every country at the same time, and those countries will get theirs later.

But not for the WiFi version, which is by far the most widely sold (and widely scalped) version.
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iPad! Bah! I just filed my taxes using Free File Fillable Forms. It's all Flash based. Try doing that with an iPad.

Who cares? You found some specific Flash based tax forms. Are you claiming you need flash to make them? You don't. You could use one of the many online services or download tax software for their iPad. Don't know about the US, but in Canada, TaxFreeway is available as a native iPad app.

"I could do task x because this particular implementation is flash. Try doing that on an iPad." Not really an argument unless there's no alternative and we really really want to do task x.
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Exactly, "Sue" has made some posts from Adobe IPs.

Just curiuos, how do you know they are adobe IPs?
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Who cares? You found some specific Flash based tax forms. Are you claiming you need flash to make them? You don't. You could use one of the many online services or download tax software for their iPad. Don't know about the US, but in Canada, TaxFreeway is available as a native iPad app.

"I could do task x because this particular implementation is flash. Try doing that on an iPad." Not really an argument unless there's no alternative and we really really want to do task x.

TurboTax in US. I haven't used the iPad version. My understanding is it won't import your prior returns stored on other devices. I also believe they have a web version.
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