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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

You're full of it. My Aunt does not have a PC and cannot used computers so I tried to recommend an iPad to her, but had to stop mid recommendation as she wouldn't be able to set it up. There are zero Apple stores in our country and I don't want her iPad to be tied to my computer. It's a con because it's a con, and calling me out saying: "you just want to bitch" is completely crap.

It would be cool if Apple developed a dock connector flash drive that could serve as the initial setup and some backup. That would open up the iOS devices to many more people.
post #162 of 220
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Poor other tablets. No one wants to scalp them.

That's pretty much the point, isn't it.

We're all here complaining about iPad shortages and having to wait in line. Meanwhile no one is in line for the also-rans. The Galaxy Tab is DOA. The Xoom is unfit for regular use - since Google strikes again with releasing things in a Beta state and Moto doesn't seem to care, etc.

The competition would kill for this kind of demand and attention. There is currently no viable alternative to the iPad. The competition has had over a year now, if not more. And they've got nothing more than incoherent attempts to get in on the tablet market (or rather, iPad market.)

Meanwhile Apple is already well ahead of the game with an entire ecosystem in place that just works. Seamlessly with really no learning curve.
post #163 of 220
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It would be cool if Apple developed a dock connector flash drive that could serve as the initial setup and some backup. That would open up the iOS devices to many more people.

No! Stop! Damn... I think it's too late. You've just created a:

DONGLE ALERT!!!

You're going to get a few replies about Apple's stupid decision not to include a USB port, a SD slot, a microfiche reader, a CD player, a vhs player, a cassette recorder....
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Just curiuos, how do you know they are adobe IPs?

Not having access to the info that the mods do, I'd assume they just looked up who "owns" them through ARIN.
post #165 of 220
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That's pretty much the point, isn't it.

We're all here complaining about iPad shortages and having to wait in line. Meanwhile no one is in line for the also-rans. The Galaxy Tab is DOA. The Xoom is unfit for regular use - since Google strikes again with releasing things in a Beta state and Moto doesn't seem to care, etc.

The competition would kill for this kind of demand and attention. There is currently no viable alternative to the iPad. The competition has had over a year now, if not more. And they've got nothing more than incoherent attempts to get in on the tablet market (or rather, iPad market.)

Meanwhile Apple is already well ahead of the game with an entire ecosystem in place that just works. Seamlessly with really no learning curve.

That's the weird thing. All the sites like Engadget are continually writing about tablet after tablet that in reality not many people give a hoot about. What the heck is going on???
post #166 of 220
Excellent review, but in your list of apps initially available on the iPad 1 you left out iBooks. Fifty percent of my iPad use is as an e-book reader, for which it shines. The iBooks app is far superior to the Amazon Kindle or other ebook apps. If the iPad did nothing else, I would buy it as an ebook reader.
post #167 of 220
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Doesn't matter if you agree or not. But even though I want one (and will probably get one), some cons include:
4) lack of Flash (if you don't like it, turn it off. Some of us want it).
5) lack of integrated USB/Video or SD card (far more convenient way to transfer information without dragging around dongles)
6) lack of keyboard option (so far),
7) and so far, Apple seems to artificially be limiting availability. (No one seriously believes Apple couldn't offer better availability if they wanted, do they?)

Based on reviews, I'd also question Safari's performance (compared to Android's) - though I haven't found that to be a big limiter for myself.

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post #168 of 220
Friday evening the Apple Store in Bridgeport Village in Portland received their shipment for the next day. They knew exactly how many they had to sell, which was 15. Take into account that many people in line were there to buy 2 each, so only 8 people got an iPad this next morning. How hard would it be for the store to post in the window how many of each kind of Ipad they had for sale before they left Friday nite? Duh. Instead there was a line outside the store with people camping out all nite. When the Apple store manager came to give out the vouchers Saturday morning it took only a minute to realize that Apple had shown complete disrespect for their loyal fan base. For the first time in my life I heard people shouting "F Apple". A local TV station captured it and I hope they run with the story.



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Originally Posted by Sue Denim View Post

Point taken.

But my point was things like: Apple could have a lousy inventory notifier at least as lame as they had back in the iPhone3G days (where you could see what stores had inventory). And if they wanted, a much better system. They could let people know in line how many they have in stock, so lots of people could go home. They have people in-store at 7, but they won't open the doors or sell them until 9. And there are rumors that they are holding some back each day for the next day. Etc., etc. They're trying to make an artificial supply constraint because it plays the press. But it is also a way to treat your customers like garbage. This annoys me.

Look. If they were doing everything they could to help their customers and couldn't keep up with demand -- they get a pass. But does anyone believe that this is the best they can do?
post #169 of 220
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

No! Stop! Damn... I think it's too late. You've just created a:

DONGLE ALERT!!!

You're going to get a few replies about Apple's stupid decision not to include a USB port, a SD slot, a microfiche reader, a CD player, a vhs player, a cassette recorder....

You are wrong!

Apple could introduce an OS Reinstall drive similar to the one provided with the new AirBook.



This would act as a restore drive and a substitute for iTunes setup. When/if MobileMe is enhanced it could be used for the sync and backup functions.

Once this comes together, the iPad will not require a PC, but, unlike the competition, the iPad can take advantage of an available PC to gain speed and reliability.

That would qualify the iPad as a "Post PC Device" -- by anybody's measure.
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post #170 of 220
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You just don't get it. You need a PC to set it up and that's a con.

Do you? My memory is fuzzy, honestly, since I got my iPad a year ago. I thought you can just pull it out of the coffin and start using it. That's my memory anyway. It's not like the iPhone where it won't work until you plug it into a PC... its more like the iPod touch, where you can just take it out of the box, it comes charged up, and you can start using it without any kind of account.

Syncing is of course a good idea for 2 reasons: OS updates and backing up your stuff, but that's it.

Honestly not trying to be argumentative. I could be wrong, I suppose I could find out if I fully reset my iPad to factory conditions and see if it was usable right out of the box or not.
post #171 of 220
The iPad doesn't really need another computer to function. They'll happily set it up for you when you purchase it in the store, and even do updates for you when new firmware is released. Or you can use a friend's (or nephew's) machine to do the setup, after which you (or your aunt) are running free, and your friend (or nephew) can delete the data from his iTunes. Other than that, it's possible, though less convenient and dangerous for your data, to operate it completely on its own. Another computer makes it all go much more smoothly and provides backups, but it can't legitimately be a negative point.
post #172 of 220
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

You are wrong!

Apple could introduce an OS Reinstall drive similar to the one provided with the new AirBook.



This would act as a restore drive and a substitute for iTunes setup. When/if MobileMe is enhanced it could be used for the sync and backup functions.

Once this comes together, the iPad will not require a PC, but, unlike the competition, the iPad can take advantage of an available PC to gain speed and reliability.

That would qualify the iPad as a "Post PC Device" -- by anybody's measure.

Hey... don't get me wrong... I don't give a rat's ass about adding devices... but, if you've read any threads on AI in the last while (and I know you have), then you'll know that any mention of an added anything brings up the incessant whining about how Apple should have added this or that or the other thing...

(on edit... Actually, I think the little Reinstall drive is cool and a good idea...)
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post #173 of 220
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The iPad doesn't really need another computer to function. They'll happily set it up for you when you purchase it in the store, and even do updates for you when new firmware is released. Other than that, it's possible, though less convenient and dangerous for your data, to operate it completely on its own. Another computer makes it all go much more smoothly and provides backups, but it can't legitimately be a negative point.

Yep. I wasn't going to comment cause this thread is so troll filled what with "Sue" and "Ireland" but this has been my experience also.

Unless you need to transfer media files you don't really need to touch a computer past the initial setup and any backing up you might want to do. Personally, the idea of using the iPad as a music player or keeping a lot of movies on it seems silly to me and I use mine as a regular, working computer. For that reason, I don't even need to sync for backups as I just save my stuff in the cloud using MobileMe.

Putting movies on and off the device is the only real need I can see that might get one using the computer sync a lot, and even then, this has been largely replaced by airplay even though few use it yet.

In any case, the idea that it has to be entirely free of a PC to be considered a "post-PC device" is just a flawed idea that no one is pushing except those that want to take a shot at Apple for other, personal reasons. It's the very definition of a strawman argument in that it's an argument against something that was never suggested in the first place.
post #174 of 220
excellent DED take on the iPad 2 with iOS 4.3. especially the Post-PC section:

"As long as you approach iPad as a post-PC device rather than expecting it to be a drop in replacement for a PC (whether a notebook or netbook or Slate PC-like device), few of the iPad's limitations will irk you. The ones that remain will be related to Apple's iOS development (meaning they should be addressed quickly, given the company's record-setting turnaround on both completing and delivering prompt updates) or the company's design decisions."

a lot of geeks just don't get this. go look at AnandTech's review just up yesterday for example. some good meaty tech analysis (they love the processors), but they wail continually - including the setup story lead intro - about how it can't replace their laptop. and they think it should. that's their frame of reference. so smart these guys, yet so dumb too.

rational thoughts now turn instead to what will iOS 5 add to the iPad 2 consumer experience later this year. if the sched is the same as last year, the iPhone version will come in the Spring, and then be adapted for the iPad in the Fall. first, some likely stuff:

- various improvements to Safari. browser tabs via page images in a pull-up pane would be very Apple-ish. Private browsing also, given Apple's strong interest in user privacy.

- some adjustments to notifications, as they seem to bother quite a few now.

- an easy file transfer mechanism between iOS devices, like directly "sharing" files between same/compatible apps.

- a powerful but easy to use iPhoto app, completing the iOS iLife suite.

- some package to take advantage of the revamped MobileMe services that is obviously coming very soon.

then some "maybe" stuff:

- some kind of widgets to aggregate useful info/notifications. probably limited in scope.

- the much-rumored iTunes cloud service. altho this might wait until the Fall as part of Apple's annual big iPod hype. it would be good buzz for bringing iOS 5 to the iPad then too.

and finally, any wildcards such as:

- some new features coming with OS X Lion that are integrated with iOS too. that would be exciting. OS X Lion is going to be fully unveiled at the WWDC no doubt, so the timing makes sense.

others?
post #175 of 220
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Originally Posted by sennen View Post

No, you just don't get it. It's simply the state of things at this point in time.

I get that. But it's a con.
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post #176 of 220
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Do you? My memory is fuzzy, honestly, since I got my iPad a year ago. I thought you can just pull it out of the coffin and start using it. That's my memory anyway. It's not like the iPhone where it won't work until you plug it into a PC... its more like the iPod touch, where you can just take it out of the box, it comes charged up, and you can start using it without any kind of account.

Syncing is of course a good idea for 2 reasons: OS updates and backing up your stuff, but that's it.

Honestly not trying to be argumentative. I could be wrong, I suppose I could find out if I fully reset my iPad to factory conditions and see if it was usable right out of the box or not.

As it stands today (I bought a refurb iPad 1, a week ago) you need to connect the out-of-the-box iPad to a pc running iTunes.

It is also interesting that, for 4.3 Beta software, the AppleTV required corresponding updates. The AppleTV was updated by plugging it into iTunes running on a Mac (the power was supplied by the Mac, not by the AppleTV power cord).

Later, when iOS 4.3 was released, there was an update to the AppleTV using the normal OTA update procedure.

I think there is a market for a iHome server that could act as an "iTunes MAchine" for storing media and apps to be synched to iDevices.

It could replace some existing stand-alone devices and interface MobileMe:
-- AirPort Extreme WiFi, Ethernet, Cable
-- Time Machine
-- Mac or PC for iTunes & Media/app Libraries
-- Crossload apps to AppleTV
-- Central WiFi sync station for multiple iDevices
-- Central USB sync/recharge station for multiple iDevices
-- Centralized interface for MobieMe backup/sync

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post #177 of 220
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It would be cool if Apple developed a dock connector flash drive that could serve as the initial setup and some backup. That would open up the iOS devices to many more people.

Not a bad idea. But iTunes in the cloud is probably a better way to go.
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post #178 of 220
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Do you? My memory is fuzzy, honestly, since I got my iPad a year ago. I thought you can just pull it out of the coffin and start using it. That's my memory anyway. It's not like the iPhone where it won't work until you plug it into a PC... its more like the iPod touch, where you can just take it out of the box, it comes charged up, and you can start using it without any kind of account.

Syncing is of course a good idea for 2 reasons: OS updates and backing up your stuff, but that's it.

Honestly not trying to be argumentative. I could be wrong, I suppose I could find out if I fully reset my iPad to factory conditions and see if it was usable right out of the box or not.

You are wrong. The only exception is if you get Apple to set it up before you leave the Apple Store, something that is an impossibility in my country.
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post #179 of 220
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Hey... don't get me wrong... I don't give a rat's ass about adding devices... but, if you've read any threads on AI in the last while (and I know you have), then you'll know that any mention of an added anything brings up the incessant whining about how Apple should have added this or that or the other thing...

(on edit... Actually, I think the little Reinstall drive is cool and a good idea...)

I didn't read your post close enough... we're both on the same side -- I thought I was responding to Ireland. ;

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post #180 of 220
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The iPad doesn't really need another computer to function. They'll happily set it up for you when you purchase it in the store, and even do updates for you when new firmware is released. Or you can use a friend's (or nephew's) machine to do the setup, after which you (or your aunt) are running free, and your friend (or nephew) can delete the data from his iTunes. Other than that, it's possible, though less convenient and dangerous for your data, to operate it completely on its own. Another computer makes it all go much more smoothly and provides backups, but it can't legitimately be a negative point.

Depending on your usage, if true, this is not a negative at all.

Many people buy PC's and never back them up. Since common uses are email and web, and your data in these cases are likely in the cloud, for these people having a dead HD is just an inconvenience. Same goes for iPad.

Although your data isn't backed up (unless you do MobileMe or Dropbox) iPad does have one distinct advantages here over a PC: your apps are. Once you buy an Appstore app, it can be re-downloaded any number of times with that account. It's too bad they don't do this for music (I understand licensing is what it is) but lost apps can be re-downloaded over the air. That is far better and more convenient than a traditional PC, and an advantage for iOS devices.

They could solve the whole backup issue by revamping and making MobileMe more robust. Let users back up all of their data, music, photos, in-app data, everything, to a private account tied to their itunes account. At least then you eliminate half the need to connect to a PC at all, and you've modernized the platform. And I'm sure in a few years they'll solve the OS updates over the air as well.

Although lets be honest, updating the OS for the iPad is not that critical. It's definitely nice to have, but if you are average user or grandma, you can be just fine and dandy with iOS 4.2 for probably the lifetime of the product.
post #181 of 220
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

Rational thoughts now turn instead to what will iOS 5 add to the iPad 2 consumer experience later this year. if the sched is the same as last year, the iPhone version will come in the Spring, and then be adapted for the iPad in the Fall. first, some likely stuff:

- various improvements to Safari. browser tabs via page images in a pull-up pane would be very Apple-ish. Private browsing also, given Apple's strong interest in user privacy.

- some adjustments to notifications, as they seem to bother quite a few now.

- an easy file transfer mechanism between iOS devices, like directly "sharing" files between same/compatible apps.

- a powerful but easy to use iPhoto app, completing the iOS iLife suite.

- some package to take advantage of the revamped MobileMe services that is obviously coming very soon.

then some "maybe" stuff:

- some kind of widgets to aggregate useful info/notifications. probably limited in scope.

- the much-rumored iTunes cloud service. altho this might wait until the Fall as part of Apple's annual big iPod hype. it would be good buzz for bringing iOS 5 to the iPad then too.

and finally, any wildcards such as:

- some new features coming with OS X Lion that are integrated with iOS too. that would be exciting. OS X Lion is going to be fully unveiled at the WWDC no doubt, so the timing makes sense.

others?

That would all be very exciting as a free update.
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post #182 of 220
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I didn't read your post close enough... we're both on the same side -- I thought I was responding to Ireland. ;

... I'll get back to you....

Hmmm... now that might be a mistake...
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post #183 of 220
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Hmmm... now that might be a mistake...

Har-har.
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post #184 of 220
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That's the weird thing. All the sites like Engadget are continually writing about tablet after tablet that in reality not many people give a hoot about. What the heck is going on???

I suppose it's just tech sites reviewing whatever tech is out there. I see them reviewing desktop computer cases as well, etc.

Tech sites don't actually reflect the market at large. They're aimed at a particular segment and that's about it.

Apple's numbers, the proliferation of Apple gear, and the direction the industry at large moves (i.e., Apple's direction) will tell the real story. I like to look at the big picture, and in that big picture, it's all about Apple. It's a startling change from 5-6 years ago, and every month it appears that Apple continues to extend their reach and influence in nearly all aspects of consumer tech. It's pretty exciting.
post #185 of 220
The iPad doesn't really need another computer to function. They'll happily set it up for you when you purchase it in the store, and even do updates for you when new firmware is released. Other than that, it's possible, though less convenient and dangerous for your data, to operate it completely on its own. Another computer makes it all go much more smoothly and provides backups, but it can't legitimately be a negative point.
post #186 of 220
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

You are wrong. The only exception is if you get Apple to set it up before you leave the Apple Store, something that is an impossibility in my country.

Yep, so I guess Apple will never sell that iPad. There will be that one single iPad sitting on store shelves forever.
post #187 of 220
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The only exception is if you get Apple to set it up before you leave the Apple Store, something that is an impossibility in my country.

Couldn't you purchase the iPad from the Apple Online Store as a gift and have it sent directly to your aunt? Wouldn't Apple pre-configure it to work right out of the box then? Or does it not work that way? I've never gifted from the Online Store.

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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Hey... don't get me wrong... I don't give a rat's ass about adding devices... but, if you've read any threads on AI in the last while (and I know you have), then you'll know that any mention of an added anything brings up the incessant whining about how Apple should have added this or that or the other thing...

(on edit... Actually, I think the little Reinstall drive is cool and a good idea...)

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I didn't read your post close enough... we're both on the same side -- I thought I was responding to Ireland. ;

... I'll get back to you....

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Hmmm... now that might be a mistake...

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Har-har.


OK, Guys... You asked for it... Here it is...


The iPad 2 MegaPort -- the ultimate in dongleless iPad accessory interconnection...

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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

Yep, scalping is why the iPad2 is in such short supply. And there's nothing wrong with that. Every scalper buys the iPad and sells that single iPad to a single user out there who is willing to pay more for his iPad than you are for yours. And he has every right to find a willing seller to sell it to him.

The most amazing part of that video was the idiot reporter sounding so surprised about the fact that, despite all the security guards and police and cameras, the scalpers were still doing their business openly.

THATS BECAUSE IT IS NOT ILLEGAL

That's not necessarily true. People get in trouble for scalping tickets all the time.
post #190 of 220
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Originally Posted by djsherly View Post

Actually, it's proof that 15 Million ipads were sold in 2010. Nothing more and nothing less.



Logic fail on so many levels. For a start, there's a ton of apps shovelling ads your way on iOS as well. I guess that makes iOS users cheapskates too. It's obviously a model that works universally.



What goes in its place? You know, for video or heavily interactive content? As it happens I disable flash too, primarily for the same reasons you do. Right now, there is no viable alternative. The fact that it's rubbish on mobile devices says nothing about how equally rubbish html5 + js is, and can be, in the same context. Complex content requires resources. There's no getting around that.

flash isn't that important to people who want Theo ad that is the bottom line. If flash is a priority for you then you simply don't purchase iOS products and keep it movin'.
post #191 of 220
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Originally Posted by REC View Post

Probably not, but I also think there were a couple factors to consider.

1. I don't think anybody, Apple or anyone, expected this kind of turnout for the launch. I live in Plano TX. This is no NYC or LA, but understand that it is higher tech and higher wage earning than the vast majority of the country. I went to the mall that evening to see how the Apple store was doing and see if they might have any iPad 2's on display. I figured, maybe... just maybe, 30, 40 people waiting in line- tops. Like I said this is no NYC flagship store, just some random Apple store. There were easily 500 people waiting in line, probably alot more than that, in a line that stretched all through the mall. It was insane for a v2 product launch. Security was out making sure things went smoothly. Something was up, something beyond and outside normal expectations.

2. Apple is a secretive company. It is their business to have secrecy to foster and build hype for consumer products. You want them to open things up, actually so did I. I wish I could've gone online and seen a list per store of inventory. It makes sense to do right? Except that it is not Apple's business to be open about every detail of its business, and I realize that. Frustrating as it is, you have to acknowledge that it is the right of a business to run itself as it sees fit, provided it is done within current laws. We have a choice.

So yeah, while I do think they could've done better, I don't think they 1. anticipated this kind of demand, it was insane and 2. it is not in Apple's DNA to be open about every detail, and we shouldn't expect them to be.

Consider for just a moment if the opposite had occurred, which is entirely probable (alternate universe time): Nobody wants the iPad2. It's not a real PC, doesn't have enough ports, doesn't run flash and its just a big expensive toy. Ok, Apple posts per-store inventory on their website for the launch to help people find iPad2's, except it turns out nobody wants them. Now its nothing but bad PR for the company: Any schmo reporter can look up online all the overstock iPad2's Apple has in the channel, how they totally misjudged things. Look at all the wasted silicon and glass they have sitting on their shelves. APPL would take a huuuuuuge tumble, the future of the company would come into question. If nobody wants the iPad, and the company was betting its future on this device, what kind of growth can they really expect?

If you were an APPL investor in this scenario, I think you'd be mighty pissed. What the hell was Apple thinking? Why would they be so public about their actual inventory numbers? In this respect posting that info publicly comes with risk, and is a big gamble to shareholders. Especially for a new product category only 1 year old, especially for something that has had unpredictable success and growth in just 9 months when most people, companies and analysts still don't fully understand what is going on.

But to summarize, no. I don't think it is the best Apple can do. I also don't think any of your suggestions quite work.

But look, the bottom line is there is simply way more demand for this product than Apple can produce. I'll get mine in a month or 2 whenever it actually becomes possible. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill and someday (probably around the iPad 5 =) Apple will be able to normalize the supply/demand chain... maybe.

" ...that it is the right of a business to run itself as it sees fit, provided it is done within current laws."

Well said; companies exist to generate profits for their owners and stockholders. If they do one (or both) they succeed and prosper; if not the marketplace exerts its will and the business fails.

How we as consumers would run a business is of no consequence, it's not our "store"; we are there but to consume a product...or not.
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post

That's not necessarily true. People get in trouble for scalping tickets all the time.

Yeah, it's necessarily true.

We aren't talking about scalping tickets. We're talking about what we're talking about. Scalping iPads. 100% legal.
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

I said nothing about solving the availability problem. I was talking about solving the scalping problem.

Simultaneous launch will have a net zero effect on availability. It will, however, have a positive effect on discouraging scalping.

It will cut cross-border scalping, but I can't help but think that would move to local scalping because the demand still outstrips supply.

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Just curiuos, how do you know they are adobe IPs?

There is a reverse IP look-up in the forum software, and a couple posts reversed to an IP block owned by Adobe.
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flash isn't that important to people who want Theo ad that is the bottom line. If flash is a priority for you then you simply don't purchase iOS products and keep it movin'.

If I need to use flash on my iPad I just use skyfire web browser or iSwifter.

If people want ports, flash and a keyboard they should just get the 11 inch MacBook air. No one is putting a gun to their head to buy an iOS product.
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OK, Guys... You asked for it... Here it is...


The iPad 2 MegaPort -- the ultimate in dongleless iPad accessory interconnection..

Sign me up!!
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I get that. But it's a con.

Considering there is no reliable alternative at present, and that post-pc does not mean sans-pc, it's not a con.
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A very good idea!

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You are wrong!

Apple could introduce an OS Reinstall drive similar to the one provided with the new AirBook.



This would act as a restore drive and a substitute for iTunes setup. When/if MobileMe is enhanced it could be used for the sync and backup functions.

Once this comes together, the iPad will not require a PC, but, unlike the competition, the iPad can take advantage of an available PC to gain speed and reliability.

That would qualify the iPad as a "Post PC Device" -- by anybody's measure.
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You are wrong!

Apple could introduce an OS Reinstall drive similar to the one provided with the new AirBook.



This would act as a restore drive and a substitute for iTunes setup. When/if MobileMe is enhanced it could be used for the sync and backup functions.

Once this comes together, the iPad will not require a PC, but, unlike the competition, the iPad can take advantage of an available PC to gain speed and reliability.

That would qualify the iPad as a "Post PC Device" -- by anybody's measure.

1) If they did that Id think it would be a 30-pin connector at that end (or whatever future connector they use), not USB.

2) Id think if they were going to do that theyd skip the external backup drive altogether and just make a secret partition that you can enter whilst doing the DFU mode sequence.

While 600MB for a hidden partition might seem like a lot now when the iPad moves to 25nm NAND, likely next year, making 32GB, 64GB and 128GB the standard capacities at the current price points, I doubt it will matter. I never hear people complaint that they only have 14GB on their 16GB iPad for use do to the OS size and base-10 counting.
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There is a reverse IP look-up in the forum software, and a couple posts reversed to an IP block owned by Adobe.

Isn't this big news? Regardless whether he's doing this on his own or at the company's bidding, this seems to be a front-page story.

Would be if I were running the paper, but I admit I have a weakness for conspiracy. I'm back to thinking that these SODs (Sowers of Discord, whom Dante placed in the lowest circle of his Inferno) are paid to troll.

On the other hand, the fact that he retreated as soon as he was called out suggests he was doing it on his own.
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Isn't this big news? Regardless whether he's doing this on his own or at the company's bidding, this seems to be a front-page story.

Would be if I were running the paper, but I admit I have a weakness for conspiracy. I'm back to thinking that these SODs (Sowers of Discord, whom Dante placed in the lowest circle of his Inferno) are paid to troll.

On the other hand, the fact that he retreated as soon as he was called out suggests he was doing it on his own.

I don't think anyone here was using "shill" by its literal meaning, but I thought it was amusing that he made a few posts while at the company that makes the product he's defending. Maybe it's paid, maybe just an enthusiastic employee doing unpaid cheerleading, maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, the result is at least interesting.

I think it is a bit sad for that person to hide behind an (IMO) uninteresting and kitschy alias.

People really weren't fooled last time around either, and I happened to confirm the truth of their suspicions some time afterward.
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