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post #41 of 89
3/21/11 at 4:57pm
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I'm taking it to my shop Friday to see if it's a hardware issue.

Next step is to create a new user, restart, and then login with that user. This will tell us if its a user or system issue. If the former getting rid of a PLIST file might due it. If the latter then DLing and installing the 10.6.7 Combo update directly from Apples site might fix it.
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post #42 of 89
3/21/11 at 5:05pm
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Next step is to create a new user, restart, and then login with that user. This will tell us if its a user or system issue. If the former getting rid of a PLIST file might due it. If the latter then DLing and installing the 10.6.7 Combo update directly from Apples site might fix it.

It works now. I had already restarted the machine to see if is was stuck in some kind of suspend or pre-sleep mode but no change there. Just a minute ago I put the lid down to see if the Apple logo was lit. When I put it back up my Macbook's screen went a scary shade of white and then both displays blacked out only to come back fine five seconds later. Strange.
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post #43 of 89
3/21/11 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

safari is a dog these days, hope the ve fixed it.

What does OS X 10.6.7 have to do with Safari? If Safari's going to be updated, they'll release a Safari update.

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maybe it should do it by itself...

You're not quite getting behind what's really happening with Safari that makes it a RAM hog, and while I think your subsequent insults were completely childish and uncalled-for, the words of this sentence, out of context, are correct.

Safari SHOULD be giving unused RAM back to the system, but it isn't. Doesn't really have much to do with having a cache or it clearing itself, but the point's about the same.
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post #44 of 89
3/21/11 at 5:26pm
Slightly off topic but, I've never understood what the advantage of using the Combo updater is as opposed to the specific updater in software update.

Anyone care to explain ?

Thanks in advance.
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post #45 of 89
3/21/11 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by K.C. View Post

Slightly off topic but, I've never understood what the advantage of using the Combo updater is as opposed to the specific updater in software update.

Anyone care to explain ?

Thanks in advance.

Yes I will what it does it ensures that all parts of the update will be installed not just the parts that are perceived as "extra and changed" what this means is that its almost like a fresh install it completely over write all files so you have a nice default update ... what this also means is if there was any left over corrupted files or any part of the OS that may have been previously installed that may be out of whack it gets replaced too so you know nothing has been left out
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post #46 of 89
3/21/11 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by K.C. View Post

Slightly off topic but, I've never understood what the advantage of using the Combo updater is as opposed to the specific updater in software update.

Anyone care to explain ?

Thanks in advance.


hi,
in addition to what nuvolino said if you have a few macs to update e.g a MacPro, Macbook Pro, iMac, Mini Mac and a Macbook Air or a few different generations of the same type of mac then you only need to download one update (the Combo) and it does the job for all of them.
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post #47 of 89
3/21/11 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

oh fuck off.

you are going to read this.

Yeah? Well that's the last drivel *I* ever read from you.

"plonk"
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post #48 of 89
3/21/11 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by Big KC View Post

Yeah? Well that's the last drivel *I* ever read from you.

"plonk"

He also sent me a PM telling to F off. I thought about reporting it, but its pointless. Id rather him not create a fresh alias.
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post #49 of 89
3/21/11 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by aquajets1 View Post

you know the whole "macs don't get viruses" theory? its a bunch of bunk, or security updates wouldn't be needed. However, because apple releases semi-regular security updates (thank god, so much easier than MS updater) like this, Mac viruses are hardly seen. or they get hit with an apple update before long.


Steve Jobs wields the apple gun. Virus zombies watch out.


The only anti-virus you need to protect your Mac is education and common sense.
And to let you get some proper information about the different malware types:
Mac Virus/Malware Info Anyway, there has NOT been ONE virus for Mac OS X in public circulation in the last decade, and as of now, there is still none.
Good luck.
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post #50 of 89
3/21/11 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

@solipsism

oh fuck off.

you are going to read this.


whoa, easy there. is that really called for?
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post #51 of 89
3/21/11 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by aquajets1 View Post

you know the whole "macs don't get viruses" theory? its a bunch of bunk, or security updates wouldn't be needed. However, because apple releases semi-regular security updates (thank god, so much easier than MS updater) like this, Mac viruses are hardly seen. or they get hit with an apple update before long.


Steve Jobs wields the apple gun. Virus zombies watch out.

It's like the reason you don't get hit with lightning - because I pray for you. No, really, what in the world are you even talking about? (And no, I don't pray for anyone, so apparently you aren't being hit with lightning because Steve hasn't willed it on you...)

Can you name a Mac (OS X) virus that has been out there? One that has been stopped with an Apple update? I get some conceptual hacks from some security conferences, but nothing in the wild yet after what, 9 years? It's not impossible that one will one day appear, but you know the whole "Macs don't get viruses" thing?

There is a reason Mac folks are happy not to be on PCs. Or Android phones. (OK, a whole bunch of reasons, but now I digress...)
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post #52 of 89
3/21/11 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

He also sent me a PM telling to F off. I thought about reporting it, but its pointless. Id rather him not create a fresh alias.

fresh alias? wtf is that, you are surely deluded, I have one nick and one ip, so I don't know why you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, but take her easy...
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post #53 of 89
3/21/11 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by mrstep View Post

It's like the reason you don't get hit with lightning - because I pray for you. No, really, what in the world are you even talking about? (And no, I don't pray for anyone, so apparently you aren't being hit with lightning because Steve hasn't willed it on you...)

Can you name a Mac (OS X) virus that has been out there? One that has been stopped with an Apple update? I get some conceptual hacks from some security conferences, but nothing in the wild yet after what, 9 years? It's not impossible that one will one day appear, but you know the whole "Macs don't get viruses" thing?

There is a reason Mac folks are happy not to be on PCs. Or Android phones. (OK, a whole bunch of reasons, but now I digress...)

This thread is comical. I'm going to ratchet it up a notch: mrstep I completely agree with your post... Except, I'm happy on my Android phone. Just thought I'd throw one more wrench in this thread.

Updating ...
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post #54 of 89
3/21/11 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

well, fuck you too, I didn't ask for your fucking opinion on what I said, so put me in your ignore list and fuck off, plonk, yeah, fuck off.

You are acting like a very small child who hasn't gotten their way.

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post #55 of 89
3/21/11 at 8:10pm
removed... question already answered.

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post #56 of 89
3/21/11 at 8:12pm
10.6.7 brings no TRIM support to my 11" MacBook Air
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post #57 of 89
3/21/11 at 9:05pm
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Originally Posted by PeterO View Post

Looked through the release notes and have done a casual search but I couldn't find any 411 on 10.6.7 extending TRIM support to Macs prior to MBP 2011.

Anybody seen anything?

I have a mid-2009 MBP with Apple 256GB SSD. I can confirm (after a 10.6.7 combo-update) that SSD Trim is NOT enabled. I opened a support case with Apple Care (210949103) with a callback scheduled tomorrow afternoon.

I'm unhappy that Apple gave a custom Snow Leopard build with SSD Trim support to new MBPs while penalizing those of us who adopted early (I paid $3854 in June 2009) and have never had the benefit of that feature.

There is also a discussion in the Apple Support Forums: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....63208#13263208
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post #58 of 89
3/21/11 at 9:19pm
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well, fuck you too, I didn't ask for your fucking opinion on what I said, so put me in your ignore list and fuck off, plonk, yeah, fuck off.

I can feel the love...
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post #59 of 89
3/21/11 at 9:33pm
I feel a ban a-comin'.

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post #60 of 89
3/21/11 at 9:49pm
Wouldn't be the first time a solution was brought to the attention to a whiner only to be met with MORE WHINING!

All I can say is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw
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post #61 of 89
3/21/11 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by jeisensc View Post

I have a mid-2009 MBP with Apple 256GB SSD. I can confirm (after a 10.6.7 combo-update) that SSD Trim is NOT enabled. I opened a support case with Apple Care (210949103) with a callback scheduled tomorrow afternoon.

I'm unhappy that Apple gave a custom Snow Leopard build with SSD Trim support to new MBPs while penalizing those of us who adopted early (I paid $3854 in June 2009) and have never had the benefit of that feature.

There is also a discussion in the Apple Support Forums: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....63208#13263208

I assume you have the TS256A or just TS256? Do you know if the drive itself supports TRIM? It might not... whereas the TS256B does have hardware support.... as does the TS256C.

I am happy your voicing your concerns to apple, however I don't think they would feel obligated based on price... I presume the majority of that money went straight to the flash manufacturers.

Have you noticed any slowdowns? I have not read a single case of anyone experiencing performance degradation on a mac with the factory SSD. Just sayin, it might not be worth your time unless your experiencing problems.
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post #62 of 89
3/21/11 at 10:54pm
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Originally Posted by nuvolino View Post

Yes I will what it does it ensures that all parts of the update will be installed not just the parts that are perceived as "extra and changed" what this means is that its almost like a fresh install it completely over write all files so you have a nice default update ... what this also means is if there was any left over corrupted files or any part of the OS that may have been previously installed that may be out of whack it gets replaced too so you know nothing has been left out

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Originally Posted by Graeme

hi,
in addition to what nuvolino said if you have a few macs to update e.g a MacPro, Macbook Pro, iMac, Mini Mac and a Macbook Air or a few different generations of the same type of mac then you only need to download one update (the Combo) and it does the job for all of them.

I wasn't the one who asked, but thanks! I always wondered what the difference was, as well. Now I know.
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post #63 of 89
3/22/11 at 12:16am
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I will try. A daisy chain can be attached to the Thunderbolt port, which in turn, ties into a specialized Thunderbolt chip, which connects as a PCIe to the system board. Each device on the daisy chain contains a specialized Thunderbolt chip for that device, which translates the data stream as needed for that device.

If you have a storage device in the daisy chain, it will have an input and an output (for devices further down the chain for a maximum of six devices). There are a number of restrictions, such as the display being the last device on the chain.

Thunderbolt keeps storage data and display data separate on the 2 available channels of Thunderbolt. No need for USB, Firewire, or mini-DisplayPort on the daisy chain; it is handled at a very fast speed on Thunderbolt. I would guess that eventually those other ports will fade out on Macs, and maybe other Apple products.

http://www.mac-thunderbolt.com/lightpeak/tbolt-faq.html

What I wonder is this: will the first device in the Thunderbolt chain have to be switched on in order to use the second device? With my firewire hard drives, I can't just turn a device on - it won't be recognized unless every device before it in the chain is on.
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post #64 of 89
3/22/11 at 2:42am
Still no support for hardware accelerated h.264 decode on MacBook Pro 2011. Neither on Intel HD, neither on ATI.

When I play HD movie in Quicktime X or XBMC, battery drops 4 times in performance as CPU is doing all the work. Feels like Flash...
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post #65 of 89
3/22/11 at 3:03am
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Still no support for hardware accelerated h.264 decode on MacBook Pro 2011. Neither on Intel HD, neither on ATI.

When I play HD movie in Quicktime X or XBMC, battery drops 4 times in performance as CPU is doing all the work. Feels like Flash...

Have you tried using Safari?
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post #66 of 89
3/22/11 at 3:31am
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post

Can somebody explain the logic of combining a display port with a storage port? Seems like a big (and illogical) jump to me.

Very logical:

Instead of the current flow of HDD-Firewire-MBook + Display-HDMI-MBook, the near future will be:

HDD-Firewire-Thunderbolt Hub-MBook + Display-HDMI-Thunderbolt Hub-MBook

As you can see, Apple sells you a $50 Hub (hopefully with proprietary technology a la ipod cable that prevents low-cost alternatives) you didn't previously need, and in return you get a much-needed speed boost over the archaeic Firewire 800/HDMI combo. You also save lots of space on the side of your computer by eliminating the firewire port!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, your iPhone and iPad still use the proprietary iPod cable->USB, so you'll need to hang onto the USB ports for a few more years, but don't worry, soon that problem will be solved by another smart, proprietary cable (iPod->Thunderbolt anyone?) that replaces your current one for just $49.99!!!
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post #67 of 89
3/22/11 at 3:45am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

Have you tried using Safari?

I cannot play Matroska .mkv file in Safari. Apple still hasn't extended VDADecoder support for ATI, Intel, and rest of NVidia as GT8600M used in older MacBook Pros.

http://developer.apple.com/library/m...10/tn2267.html

As result, all video, including Flash, are unable to take advantage of GPU h.264 offload.
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post #68 of 89
3/22/11 at 5:36am
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

Isn't it all just data? What difference should it make if that data is going to a display or a printer or a magnetic platter?

And far from illogical. If you have a laptop and at home you have your external display, speakers, TimeMachine backup disk, printer, etc, you just plug in a single cable (well, two if you count power) and your laptop it "docked" with your desktop setup.

Bingo!!! Having just bought a new 15" MBP this past weekend I'm absolutely looking forward to this. Plug in power and the Thunderbolt and that's it. Right now plugging in my work laptop at home I'm plugging in 4 different cables (Ethernet, power, monitor, and USB keyboard).
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post #69 of 89
3/22/11 at 5:44am
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The next thing you'll want is for it to wipe your butt...

I can handle my own, but if it would take care of my son's that would be nice.
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post #70 of 89
3/22/11 at 6:16am
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This thread is comical. I'm going to ratchet it up a notch: mrstep I completely agree with your post... Except, I'm happy on my Android phone. Just thought I'd throw one more wrench in this thread.

Updating ...

I have an Android phone for development as well, haven't been that impressed - but then I keep looking at things thinking 'And here's another spot where my parents would get lost...' Very curious about the new Pre stuff though, including the multitasking implementation for the tablet - which iOS fundamentally isn't set up for (thanks to the 1 app window thing...). Maybe with iOS 5? (But then, I actually thought that 1 app at a time was something every user could just 'get' on a phone - no task manager, no strange double-click to find the icons of recently run (or running???) apps, etc., though multitasking is more important/useful at the iPad form factor.)

And to be fair, I know there have been some trojans on Android (and jail-broken iPhones), but I don't know of any actual viruses there either, just had someone ask me what virus scan I run on my phone. Ugh. If you want to see really annoying mixing of virus/worm/trojan into one term 'virus', then being used to justify saying the Mac is full of viruses (?), check out some of the Jason Mick articles on DailyTech. OMG. Which has sensitized me to seeing these virus claims. Sure, maybe 1 day, maybe an actual virus is technically possible, but there just hasn't been one.

OK, but enough of that - what I meant to say was...

Happy on your Android phone!?!? DAMN YOU, AQUATIC, DAAAAAAMN YOU!!!!!!

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post #71 of 89
3/22/11 at 7:16am
Just fired up Steam and every Valve game from Half Life Ep2 to Portal and Team Fortress 2 have taken a hit as far as frame rates go. HL EP2 has gone from smooth to unplayable in scenes with a lot of action. Anyone else have the same issues? I'm on an ultimate 11" Air and yes, I do game on it.
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post #72 of 89
3/22/11 at 7:40am
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I assume you have the TS256A or just TS256? Do you know if the drive itself supports TRIM? It might not... whereas the TS256B does have hardware support.... as does the TS256C.

I am happy your voicing your concerns to apple, however I don't think they would feel obligated based on price... I presume the majority of that money went straight to the flash manufacturers.

Have you noticed any slowdowns? I have not read a single case of anyone experiencing performance degradation on a mac with the factory SSD. Just sayin, it might not be worth your time unless your experiencing problems.

I've got an OCZ Vertex2 25nm and it definitely supports TRIM, but alas, no Apple love. Not a big deal, as I have also heard that TRIM is not necessary if you're using the Mac OS, as there's virtually no performance degradation without it.
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post #73 of 89
3/22/11 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by Garamond View Post

Agreed.

Careful, or you'll get added to someone's ignore list....

I installed last night on my big iMac (pre-metal iMacs) with no issues. Will do my baby iMac tonight.
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post #74 of 89
3/22/11 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by mrstep View Post

I have an Android phone for development as well, haven't been that impressed - but then I keep looking at things thinking 'And here's another spot where my parents would get lost...' Very curious about the new Pre stuff though, including the multitasking implementation for the tablet - which iOS fundamentally isn't set up for (thanks to the 1 app window thing...). Maybe with iOS 5? (But then, I actually thought that 1 app at a time was something every user could just 'get' on a phone - no task manager, no strange double-click to find the icons of recently run (or running???) apps, etc., though multitasking is more important/useful at the iPad form factor.)

And to be fair, I know there have been some trojans on Android (and jail-broken iPhones), but I don't know of any actual viruses there either, just had someone ask me what virus scan I run on my phone. Ugh. If you want to see really annoying mixing of virus/worm/trojan into one term 'virus', then being used to justify saying the Mac is full of viruses (?), check out some of the Jason Mick articles on DailyTech. OMG. Which has sensitized me to seeing these virus claims. Sure, maybe 1 day, maybe an actual virus is technically possible, but there just hasn't been one.

OK, but enough of that - what I meant to say was...

Happy on your Android phone!?!? DAMN YOU, AQUATIC, DAAAAAAMN YOU!!!!!!


I agree iPhone is probably a better smartphone for casual users. I like my bewildering array of menus. I hope Android vs. Apple makes them both better, and I think it already is. iOS will get better notifications, and Android will hopefully continue to polish the UI. It's all about the best tool for the job, which depends on the user. Android I'm rapidly learning was by far the best choice for my use and preferences. Although before 2.2 it wouldn't have been, but now, it does a lot iPhone does not that I need. For example I actually genuinely need Flash.


Wait, what I meant to say was Damn YOU mrstep!!!! DAMN YOU times INFINITY!!!!
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post #75 of 89
3/22/11 at 8:39am
OpenGL Graphics Scores under XBench have gone from

OpenGL Graphics Test\t104.46\t
\tSpinning Squares\t104.46\t132.52 frames/sec

under 10.6.6

to

OpenGL Graphics Test\t71.73\t
\tSpinning Squares\t71.73\t91.00 frames/sec

Under 10.6.7
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post #76 of 89
3/22/11 at 9:13am
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

Careful, or you'll get added to someone's ignore list....

I installed last night on my big iMac (pre-metal iMacs) with no issues. Will do my baby iMac tonight.

You're lucky... if you had waited for the v1 metal iMac you would most likely not have been able to install this latest update... a fault in the graphics card keeps you stuck at 10.6.2.

[Hey... it's my first bitch with Apple and I'm going to milk it!... it hasn't kept me from buying new Apple products, though.]
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3/22/11 at 9:34am
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You're lucky... if you had waited for the v1 metal iMac you would most likely not have been able to install this latest update... a fault in the graphics card keeps you stuck at 10.6.2.

That's complete fallacy, though, so there's not much to milk.
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post #78 of 89
3/22/11 at 9:53am
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That's complete fallacy, though, so there's not much to milk.

Hey... you believe what you want to believe... there are enough documented cases of this exact thing... so I don't care what you think.

One fellow on here actually got to the root of the matter, through service, and was, fortunately, on time to have the card replaced.
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post #79 of 89
3/22/11 at 9:59am
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Hey... you believe what you want to believe... there are enough documented cases of this exact thing... so I don't care what you think.

One fellow on here actually got to the root of the matter, through service, and was, fortunately, on time to have the card replaced.

We have a lab room full of first-gen aluminum iMacs running 10.6.6. There's no "stuck".
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3/22/11 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

We have a lab room full of first-gen aluminum iMacs running 10.6.6. There's no "stuck".

Did you notice the "most likely" part of my post... not all of them were bad... but enough of them were bad for it to be a real problem for a large number of people.

That's the difference between you and I... I know that some people were lucky... quite a few were not... I can see both sides.

You, on the other hand think that just because you got lucky then anyone complaining is a bullshitter.

It's a legitimate beef whether you think so or not.

[ here's one (of several) discussion on the subject - http://discussions.info.apple.com/th...art=0&tstart=1 ]
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