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post #41 of 57
They'd have been crazy to oust Steve Jobs from their Board of Directors.

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post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by Alladdinn View Post

Wow! I didn't realize this was a union blog.

It isn't. It's a "pick one random thought to argue against and hijack the thread" blog.
post #43 of 57
First off asny posts about unions should be deleted. It has nothing to do with the topic.

Steve Jobs started pixar. Which pretty much saved Disney. There is no way they would not vote him back in.
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Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach View Post

and the american squirrel is responsible for the lack of rainfall in the sahara.

Not good enough.
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

Perhaps it is because Apple does zero manufacturing here in the USA.

If that was their concern, it would have been more honest to state it that way, rather than citing Jobs' less than perfect attendance.
post #46 of 57
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If that was their concern, it would have been more honest to state it that way, rather than citing Jobs' less than perfect attendance.

Good point.
post #47 of 57
Seems labor unions have far more important issues to address than Steve Jobs position on Disney's board. It's a new century.

Apple pointedly told the world after Steve Jobs returned to Apple to start the unprecedented run of success, an insanely great marketing slogan. I happily invoke it here as a message to unions: It's time to THINK DIFFERENT.
post #48 of 57
What dey gonna do take away his Donald Duck Cup and Saucer Set.
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First off asny posts about unions should be deleted. It has nothing to do with the topic.

Unions have a lot to do with the topic. They were the ones who were trying to give Steve the boot.
post #50 of 57
I heard Jobs had a hand in getting Disney to dump their straight to DVD sequels of great movies so that alone should keep him on the board for a long time if you ask me. We didn't need three Aladdin sequels?
post #51 of 57
SJ does one hour of his Disney Duty is better then those who sit on the broad and waste 10 days of working hours doing nothing.

Some people just dont get it.
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

Another two bit Far Right comment with zero substance.

I tell ya what, how about you go bitch about the > $1 Trillion in corporate welfare of late, not to mention several trillion over the past 20 years this country has given to Corporations and not it's middle class to spur the economy.

You just might get someone to listen to it.

Funny how the checkered history of union practice gets conveniently left quietly in the corner when union supporters get lit up. You need to take an unjaundiced look at the real history of labor union activity, without the laborist subtext. Do corporate officers act primarily in the best interests of the corporation - you bet. Is it interested in the individual rights of the worker? Nope not even - only what is absolutely required by law and checked for compliance. But do't go all dewy-eyed in reciting the HUGE gains that the unions made when in fact they are AS complicit as the corporate profit-mongers when it comes to the deplorable labor situation in the US. No union has been able to functionally recognize the impact of globalized economy and steered the union into a better position for all its workers. Nope they just sat there as jobs bled offshore to weaker economies, or economies that were able to produce with lower labor costs. The two-edged sword here is that while worker exploitation continues in these economies, the workers now have more money and are able to do more than they did before they were exploited. As long as you insist as workers vs. capitalists pigs, you are practicing deductio ad absurdem.

Stop. Look. Listen. Demand better leadership in your union - leadership that recognizes the challenges of global economies and can figure out how to better position the union and its workers to better benefit. Which is better? More people employed, or fewer people employed with higher wages? Hold them accountable for their salaries, and demand they produce instead of just suck the gravy off the union dues. There needs to be compensatory controls against companies that ship jobs overseas. Not those that EXPAND operations overseas, but those that remove jobs from the US economy and put them elsewhere. No one idea is perfect but, we need to get everyone's head into the best interests of our economy.
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post #53 of 57
The irony is, Steve Jobs is an icon of benevolent and benign capitalism. He stands for everything unions claim to hate. Long hours of work WITHOUT overtime, pay for performance, zero collective bargaining.

According to unions, the type of business Apple runs (the Chinese outsourcing... the profit to shareholders...) is evil. I think it is worth pointing that out, given they began this exchange of ideas regarding Jobs.
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They were concerned that he couldn't fulfill his duties due to his health issues.

That's just code for he didn't vote the way they liked enough.
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post #55 of 57
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Originally Posted by TimUSCA View Post

They were concerned that he couldn't fulfill his duties due to his health issues.

Did this labor union and ISS want Vice Chairman Roy Disney booted out when his health was failing?

This union has quite a holding in Disney. I presume they want cumulative voting so they can shove their union hack onto the board.

Sigh, some of the worst folks are some of these shareholders, who push for profits *now* even though their efforts can kill off the corporation, not to mention the employees. Not killing the goose that lays the golden eggs is a rule the greedy keep breaking.

Oh, and happy, productive workers are just as important if not more so than any machine or building in a corporation.
post #56 of 57
I read an account of this meeting in Variety. The vote against Jobs was minor. The union was just raising a ruckus. They also raised a ruckus about the payout to the Disney CEO, Iger, of $28 million. And they did that to raise the issue of the treatment of maids in all those fancy, expensive Disney hotels. Oddly enough, Disney doesn't pay its maids well, and they don't get good health insurance. And Disney's been ignoring them for three years.

Point was, directors get huge bonuses while maids get squat, with no security and no benefits. Many of them probably don't have green cards, you know?
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Originally Posted by RMBootneck View Post

Agreed One Hundred percent! Union members are parasites who contribute nothing to the companies that employ them, driving up costs that make companies uncompetitive. Just look at GM for goodness sakes.

No, the reason American companies are "uncompetitive" is that China/Bangladesh/Pakistan/India only pay their workers pennies for what Americans receive as dollars. The government needs to push work back to the home country. This may mean prices go up, that would put more Americans back to work and give them the money to purchase American made items. I love Apple, but it's disheartening to see that a lot of the product parts/assembly takes part in China, a corrupt country that rapes its workers in order to line the pockets of the corrupt leadership. Don't blame unions for the movement of jobs to low paying overseas jobs. That rant is misplaced.
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