Originally Posted by ascii
Fair enough. I believe you that you get serious work done on the iPad, I just suspect (based on App Store statistics) that you are the exception.
I agree there is huge education potential there, but it may be too soon to say it's the greatest invention since the portable book. We need more time to know that. One unexpected thing (for me) is how much elderly people like the iPad. I always thought my Gran should love the Internet because she could connect to the world from her boring little flat, but she was never interested. But the reason was not the web, but the hassles of the PC.
But I disagree that it is as serious as you want it to be. Not because of the hardware (the hardware is just a blank slate and not inheriently anything), but because of the OS.
I find that getting things done is never a 1-app experience for me, it involves doing X in one app, Y in another, cutting and pasting together etc. Because the mere fact that you are doing something new, something not done before, means it's very unlikely there is already a single app that caters for it.
So for me, the multiple-windows GUI model is not yet obsolete. And iOS does not support this. However I see that multiple windows is just a superfluous confusion for many applications. That is why I like OS X 10.7, where you can have full screen apps OR desktops. I can use full screen apps for many uses, but still switch to a desktop when I need to mash apps together to get something done.
Yes I have looked in to Alan Kay and Jef Raskin before. Both very smart people. Jef Raskin has an App on the MAS now that demonstrates some new GUI concepts.
This should be my last post on this off-topic debate in a now-abandoned thread. We should really be celebrating the release of iPads on schedule around the world, in contrast to the painful (to me anyway) delay last year, when Apple seemed to have blown it.
But I see where you're coming from, which is not at all where I'm coming from. I don't pay attention to the limited architecture of the iOS because I'm using the tablet as an internet-connected reader. I might find it limiting when trying to do desktop or laptop things with it, but that is beside the point for me.
It is the portable internet device that I was talking about, not only the iPad, that will come to be seen as the vastly more important successor to the PB (portable book). Simple logic can tell us this, and I think there really is no time to waste in seeing that we have moved, or must move, from the worldview of print to the worldview of the electronically extended nervous system of humanity.
The tablet and internet phone are soon to be the dominant way we access this "noösphere." This does not obsolesce the desktop personal computer, the fully OSed laptop , or the server infrastructure, or mainframe computers in large installations, any of these things, just as the PB did not obsolesce libraries, instead making them more important than the monasteries alone could handle. Print expanded the pool of knowledge enormously, but one author at a time. Now each electronic "book" can access unlimited authors and the knowledge they themselves draw from. Unprecedented
It admittedly drives me toward impatience when I see people not getting this at all, not you so much, but like that "Why Tablets Are Just a Fad" piece I linked to before. This is destructive short-sightedness, because it gives the anti-Apple prisoners of bitterness more license to carry on.
Clinging to the past and not seeing the outlines of hope in the future is the root of this problem. It is what is paralyzing this country right now, not yours so much, but everyone can see that the U.S. has a huge problematic group of reactionaries that present a real danger to the world.
Whence comes this clinging to past "certainties" (fear? left-brain egoic control issues?), rather than rising enthusiastically to meet positive developments when they present themselves? In fact, not even seeing
the positive developments?
Thanks for the worthy debate. I just looked up Jef Raskin today, I didn't know he had died, nor that he led such a remarkable life beyond his conceiving the Macintosh. MAS? Not familiar with that.
Edit: The Macalope has a hilarious take on the "tablet is a fad" piece, linked by Gruber. Don't miss:http://www.macworld.com/article/1588...ope_noyes.html