Originally Posted by tonton
Marv, Segovius is one of the good guys. He absolutely does recognize evolution as truth. However he believes there is much wisdom to be gained from understanding religion and religious teachings correctly according to how they were originally devised (or prophesied, as the case may be). There's a hell of a lot this man can teach all of us here. Even if we don't buy into any supernatural aspect of religion.
I suggest you get to know the members here better.
On the left we have myself, proud Social Democrat who believes economic success lies in a careful balance of socialism and capitalism; BR, who is on intellectual vacation right now, demonstrating how those wacky fundie guys can entertain the whole room with their hilarity; Segovius, who like BR and myself believes that the swing to the right in the UK and the US is troubling, but who holds a slightly more pragmatic view and might even believe things will correct themselves given time; and Sammi Jo, conspiracy theorist extraordinaire
who is most probably correct in her constant pointing out that Democrat vs. Republican is just a cover up of an overall scheme to control American government in favor of big business.
On the right, we have Trumptman, who is as Red a Republican as they come, and who cheered for Bush until the very end (and now pretends he didn't), who thinks Palin is the kind of leader who would make this country truly great, and who has a papier maché
bust of Ronald Reagan in his living room that he tirelessly made himself out of copies of old eviction notices he delightedly handed to lazy lefty tenants who fell a week behind on their rent; SDW, who is Trumptman's not quite as intelligent couch potato brother separated at birth; and MJ1970, who thinks we should abolish government and not worry about the possibility of a Mad Max anarchic world as a result, since that was only a dream. A beautiful, beautiful dream.
Sometimes Mumbo Jumbo pipes in from the left with Sego from out there in Europe somewhere. A nice guy, I've actually met him in real life. Somehow he makes me think of Jack Kerouac in a way. Though I've never met him, Segovius makes me think of Jon Anderson from the prog group Yes, though I'm sure he's much younger.
Also, we've got Fellowship, who currently leans left except when it comes to God. He believes the Bible is literal, the world is only 7,000 years old, and especially abhors the evils of legal abortion, but on the other hand, he is pragmatic about sexual minority rights, recognizes some parts of science as irrefutable (except evolution, of course), and would vote for either an honest Democrat or an honest Republican if there really were either such thing.
We're missing Shawn J, who went to law school, got sick of Trumptman's behavior and figured maybe its better to keep a low profile in case something he said ever goes public and ruins his legal/political ambition.
So, all in all, it's nice to meet you, and we're definitely glad to have you as part of the loving, caring community here at Apple Outsider.
Now go check out Kucinich, his voting record, and his public stance on the issues (he did run for the Democratic primary in 2008 and 2004).