Originally Posted by segovius
It's up to you Fellows.
I believe in God, I believe in Jesus - but just not your Jesus. I base it on evidence and logic and academic research - you wouldn't want to know about that but there it is.
BR is an atheist who hates and despises your religion and likes to shout fuck a lot.
And of the two you think he is closer to your Christian viewpoint!! Funny!!
Well...maybe he is... you could well be right. I have often claimed neo-atheists and fundies are the same thing but I never put you in that bracket.
But if you put yourself in there who am I to argue?
You disappoint me Fellows.
I like you Seg I am just not in agreement with your views.
Let me ask you if you support the following....
Quran (25:52) Listen not to the unbelievers, but strive (Jihad) against them with the utmost strenuousness.
Quran (9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty.
Quran (4:101) For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies
Quran (4:74) Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
Quran (9:111) Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
Quran (2:207) And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah
Quran (61:10-12) O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement.
Many Islamic sects believe that until the world is subjugated under Islam Jihad must be enforced.
To understand Islam one only needs to look at life in countries where it is the dominant religion.
The Sixth Pillar of Islam is Jihad or holy fighting and this is an obligation for every Muslim on earth! No exceptions.
Al-Jihad (holy fighting) in Allahs Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). Allahs Word is made superior, (His Word being Lailaha illallah which means none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and His Religion (Islam) is propagated.
By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
The above statements are exactly as published in the quran and that includes everything in parentheses.
Quran (61:9) He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islamic monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and His Messenger Muhammad) hate (it).
Quran (61:9) It is He Who has sent His Messenger forth with the guidance and the religion of truth, to make it triumph over every religion, even though the idolaters may be averse.
To show that it is above all [other] religions (Haleem); [He] will make it dominate (Khalifa); to raise it above all faiths (Ahmed Ali); He may make it prevail over all religions (Maududi); To make it victorious (team of translators of Ibn Kathir); to make it dominate over all other religions (Mufti Muhammad Madani); to prevail over all other religions (Zafrulla Khan); that He make it prevail over all [false] religion (Asad, who adds false, which is not in the original); that He may make it conqueror (Pickthall); that He may make it overcome the religion, all of them (Shakir)
Mawlana Sayid Abul Ala Mawdudi an Islamic scholar:
Islam is not a normal religion like the other religions in the world, and Muslim nations are not like normal nations. Muslim nations are very special because they have a command from Allah to rule the entire world and to be over every nation in the world.
Aduallah al-Araby in his book The Islamization of America:
Thanks to your democratic laws, we will invade you, Thanks to our religious laws, we will dominate you.
Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR:
Islam isnt in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.
Remember There will arise a man will whose sole driving goal will be to achieve complete world domination through his political-military-religious empire.
Islam has this very same goal inherent in its most core doctrines. Today, as we watch the call to radical jihad being trumpeted ever louder by Muslim/Islamic leaders all over the world Islam is slowly moving and creeping ever so much closer toward achieving that very goal of establishing Sharia Law everywhere it is Quran-ic doctrinal
Pastor Mujahid El Masih converted from Islam says
There are two houses within Islamic theology. The house of Islam are those countries where Muslims are in the majority and Islamic law has been established, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, and Libya. The house of war are those countries where Muslims are the minority and Islamic law has not been established. Every Muslim believes it is his/her duty to bring Islam to these countries by all means, including countries like the US and Britain.