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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

I love flowers, I hug trees... but you better make sure I'm dead if you're thinking of coming over to hurt my family...

but your not a criminal, so I will hand you full magazines anytime you want them
post #82 of 112
The security guard wasn't just a regular mall security guard. He was working for Apple.

It's a shame that they had to shut down that store for the whole day. I feel bad for the people who were unable to purchase their iPad2's today.
post #83 of 112
Everyone is innocent until proven otherwise.

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Glad no-one innocent was hurt.
post #84 of 112
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

The security guard wasn't just a regular mall security guard. He was working for Apple.

It's a shame that they had to shut down that store for the whole day. I feel bad for the people who were unable to purchase their iPad2's today.

Oh boy... you're really asking for it, aren't you...
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post #85 of 112
Or how about food? The reality is over ten percent of the population is unemployed. That is just people receiving unemployment. The people who weren't eligible or benefits expired aren't counted.

The higher the disparity between then haves and have nots, the more this will become a common occurrence. Not justifying armed robbery, however, the underlying social conditions that make it so easy for the rich to get richer and the poor to struggle just to get a job to feed themselves is also a crime.


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I'm thinking you get away with some good Apple stuff, you can get good money......for drugs, Christmas, etc.
post #86 of 112
The robber got exactly what he deserved; too bad the guard didn't shoot the other two as well.

This is not a pretty world we live in and those three maggots would have robbed and killed any one of you and your friends and family for the change in your pocket and that nice iPhone in your hand.

THEY made the decision to risk their lives the moment they decided to rob that store. They upped the ante when they put guns in the mix.

It would be a wonderful world if we all got along and there were no criminals to harm us but that isn't the reality.

Until it is, I'm legally carrying a concealed weapon and hope I never need to use it.

Thankfully no law abiding citizens were injured and thankfully that guard had the courage to make sure they didn't.
post #87 of 112
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Originally Posted by TBell View Post

Everyone is innocent until proven otherwise.

You're the reason we have people who have been caught murdering others, living in prison, sleeping in a warm bed and eating a hot meal day after day while their victims rot in the ground and their survivors pay to keep the animal who did it alive.

Seriously think about what you just said.
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Originally Posted by daylove22 View Post

no one deserve to die innocent or guilty..

Oh really? An idealist with no life experience whatsoever.

So the abductor of Adam Walsh who tortured and decapitated a 6 year old does not deserve it? What if someone murdered your entire family? They don't deserve death?

You got a lot to learn my friend. I hope it's not the hard way!
post #90 of 112
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Originally Posted by daylove22 View Post

no one deserve to die innocent or guilty..

It wasn't a security guard. Detailed coverage says the robbers drew a gun on a retired sheriff's detective hired by Apple. Instant fail, and yes the bad guy earned that reaction.
post #91 of 112
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Originally Posted by auxio View Post

lol. Life really is a Hollywood movie - some people are just born evil. We should find the DNA chain which identifies such people and take pre-emptive action against them.

If you are willing to break out of your black and white thinking, then I will take the time to agree with you about the fact that, yes, we all make choices in life which affect the situation we end up in. However, I'd hope that you would be willing to admit that, in cases such as true mental illness and/or domestic violence, there can be very few options but to end up in prison or dead in a situation like this.

Consider mental illness combined with poverty under the two-tiered health care system that exists in the US (i.e. you get what you can afford). Can't hold down a job due to mental illness, but can't afford to get proper treatment because you don't have a job. I know many people in this situation in the US who are trying to move to other areas of the world so they can get proper treatment for their condition.

Then according to your logic, anyone who grows up poor and has no other options, must end up a criminal with no fault of their own. Nice!

You're insulting so many people who despite their hardships in llife, they choose to do it right.
The right way is rarely the easy way, and you're just making excuses for the scum of this earth.
post #92 of 112
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Or how about food? The reality is over ten percent of the population is unemployed. That is just people receiving unemployment. The people who weren't eligible or benefits expired aren't counted.

The higher the disparity between then haves and have nots, the more this will become a common occurrence. Not justifying armed robbery, however, the underlying social conditions that make it so easy for the rich to get richer and the poor to struggle just to get a job to feed themselves is also a crime.

Dude, the three robbers fled the scene in an Acura. They had handguns. None of that stuff comes cheap. They weren't starving, they probably ate at McDonald's right before the attempted heist.

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post #93 of 112
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

What the hell?! An armed robbery at an Apple store. That's just weird to me.

I bet dollars to donuts that things didn't go the way the robbers expected...

Yeah, those Gizmodo editors will go to any lengths to get their hands on Apple hardware.

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post #94 of 112
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Originally Posted by Damn_Its_Hot View Post

Yup, cause a lot of places have there trials on the street or out back. Go third world and try this and the holler about your rights. Nuff said.

Ummm.... not disagreeing with your larger point, but you're taking refuge in your argument that the US has better 'rights' than the 'third world'?

Man, you need to set your aspirations as an American a bit higher than that.
post #95 of 112
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Originally Posted by mhikl View Post

USA:
5% of World's Population
25% of World's Incarcerated (i.e. in jail at any moment)
The USA has the highest total prison and jail population in the world. Wikip

Definitely not at the top end of safe places to be.

Even if your facts are right (I didn't check), they don't support your conclusion. There are plenty of alternative explanations:

- Other countries simply execute criminals on the spot rather than locking them up
- Other countries let a larger portion of the criminals wander the streets
- Things that are illegal here are legal in other countries (marijuana usage, for example)

Picture, for example a magical country where every single criminal was magically transported immediately to jail as soon as the commit a crime and are not released until there is a zero percent chance of them committing another crime. That country would have a higher than normal percentage of people in jail (because ALL criminals would be in jail), but would also be a very safe place to live (for the same reason).
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post #96 of 112
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Originally Posted by mhikl View Post

USA:
5% of World's Population
25% of World's Incarcerated (i.e. in jail at any moment)
The USA has the highest total prison and jail population in the world. Wikip

Definitely not at the top end of safe places to be.

Safest times outside of your bunker: 8 am ~ 8 pm

Wow, 25% of World's Incarcerated are here in the USA ... that is a staggering statistic. You are sure?
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post #97 of 112
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Originally Posted by auxio View Post

wow... just wow.

When the depth of response to something like this is simply "if someone does this, they need to be met with deadly force", or a joke, you know things are bad. Stay focused on the symptom (crime) and don't bother thinking about the root cause (high levels of poverty, untreated mental illness, all combined with an armed population).

But hey, just keep building gated communities, private security armies, not daring to travel to certain areas of your city for fear of being mugged, murdered, or both, and laughing off the desperation you're surrounded by.

Personally, I can't imagine hell being a much worse place...

It is responses like this, from people like you, that lead to actions and decisions of people like this to commit violent crimes like this one.

You should get down on your knees and thank whatever you pray to that it didn't happen to somebody you give a toot about, and that whoever was willing to risk the precious lives of innocent people to make a few dollars is now dead.

What you should not be doing is making excuses for them, blaming somebody else, something else, or generally pretending to be smarter than everybody else by way of your self-professed "depth" and ability to "really dig down and examine the root of the problem".

Your post is an exercise in cowardice.

Everybody on this world has a choice, and our choices define the content of our character, the way your choice to post this ridiculous message just defined yours.

Until you have looked down the barrel of a gun pointed at you, you do not have any clue what you are talking about, and you should shut your mouth.
post #98 of 112
The surviving suspects are a Johnny Chenda (25) and Melissa Ortiz (21).

There's a Johnny Chenda from San Diego on LinkedIn, where he describes himself as an "Independent Wholesale Professional". I'll say!!

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/johnny-chenda/2a/483/3a

For any of you that feel he's just misunderstood or oppressed, you can email him your support directly at the Chula Vista Jail. Or, help him with his $325,000 bail.

http://www.chulavistapd.org/Division...ilListing.aspx
post #99 of 112
When you indulge in robbery and use a weapon you deserve what you get.
Be it a bank or a supermarket or Apple no store should have to endure being robbed by gun carrying thieves. The security guard acted appropiately in protecting himself and the property he was hired to protect. The security guard had a permit for his gun the robbers did not.
post #100 of 112
Has this forum turned into a ultra right wing radical society? Shame on you.

It's certainly good that the robbers have been captured. But laughing about the one that got killed, brings you to the same level as they are. Again, shame on you.
post #101 of 112
LOL at this thread

He did a smash and grab for...health care

We should control guns so only crooked cops and criminals have them. Great!

I'm not going to cheer the killing of one of society's worst elements, but c'mon, this was not a cry for help. This was a gang of crooks in a fucking ACURA threatening people with death unless they got their way. Fuck them! The line to kick these sorry assholes in the nuts/boobs would be longer than any iPhone 5 debut.

/don't have an ACURA, and don't think society should give me one
post #102 of 112
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

Wow, 25% of World's Incarcerated are here in the USA ... that is a staggering statistic. You are sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarce..._United_States

Our wonderful war on drugs and other victimless 'crimes'
post #103 of 112
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Wow, 25% of World's Incarcerated are here in the USA ... that is a staggering statistic. You are sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarce..._United_States

The U.S. held 23.4% of the world's inmates. The U.S. total in this report is for Dec. 31, 2007 (see page 3) and does not include inmates in juvenile detention facilities. For the latest info worldwide see World Prison Brief.

Our wonderful war on drugs and other victimless 'crimes.'

All the more reason not to give the state a monopoly on guns
post #104 of 112
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

What the hell?! An armed robbery at an Apple store. That's just weird to me.

I bet dollars to donuts that things didn't go the way the robbers expected...

hermit. when did it happen?? i havent heard about it. even i live near to apple store.!??? did anyone kill??
post #105 of 112
Probably was Daharder or what ever it calls itself, wanted the iPad 2 badly.
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post #106 of 112
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

A shootout at a San Diego, Calif., Apple Store occurred Monday morning before the store opened for business, during which one suspect was killed and two others were arrested.

The incident occurred at the Chula Vista Apple Store, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune. Three suspects -- two men and a woman -- allegedly broke into the store at Otay Ranch Town Center on Birch Road before 7 a.m.

Police said the shootout occurred between the three suspects and a security guard who was at the shopping center. Shots were fired when at least one of the men allegedly took out a handgun and threatened the guard. The security guard was not harmed, according to NBC San Diego.

The would-be robbers got into a small car in an attempt to get away, but one man was mortally wounded. Their vehicle crashed into a light pole, and the surviving man and woman fled the scene, but the suspects were found by police around 8 a.m. hiding on a patio in a nearby residential neighborhood.

Police found two guns -- one on the suspect who died, and another on the man who was taken into custody. The manager of the Apple store was working inside when the incident occurred, but was not harmed. Nearby schools were also put on lockdown after the incident occurred.

Crime does not pay.Maybe security will be more tighter now than before after this incident happened.I am glad the guard was not hurt.Apple wins again.
post #107 of 112
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It's a shame that they had to shut down that store for the whole day. I feel bad for the people who were unable to purchase their iPad2's today.

Best line so far.
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post #108 of 112
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Originally Posted by sippincider View Post

Criminals get the message

You see, that is the problem. They DON'T get the message. If they did there would be a lot less crime. Literally, that doesn't work anywhere in the world. Even places with harsh and unfair justice still have terrible crime. The real message here is that human's are stupid and crazy and there will always be problems like this.

And that when you have a reasonable population (like Canada for example) that is willing to control access to deadly weapons, things are a lot nicer. People are not reasonable in the U.S.
post #109 of 112
The original story is about three maggot criminals with guns who robbed a store and got their just deserved reward for it. Too bad the other two didn't get shot too. Now they'll waste our tax dollars prosecuting them and incarcerating them. They should be charged with the death of the fellow maggot as well.

This isn't Canada or any other foreign country, it's the United States of America; if you don't like it here there are planes leaving everyday. Sell your electronics toys and go someplace else where bluebirds will tie ribbons in your hair and whatever else you dream of.

This isn't about prisons or politics, it's about idiot thieves with guns and thankfully someone with the balls to stand up and stop them so they didn't make you, your friends or relatives their next victim or dead victim. Criminals will rob, brutalize, rape and kill you for the change in your pocket and then laugh about it.

Be happy there are honest people out there willing to carry a gun just in case they need to save your life or the life of a loved one. Otherwise you can stand there helplessly watching them die or get their head bashed in while you fidget with your cell phone and wait for the police to come take a report.

My name is Robert and that's what I think! No Cryin' No Whinin' !!!
post #110 of 112
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Originally Posted by kwoot27 View Post

Just as an FYI....Chula Vista is about 10 miles from the SD/Mexico border. Most of the city is pretty sketchy.

You've never been here. Chula Vista east of the 805 (where Otay Ranch Town Center is located) is far from sketchy. It's about as crime-ridden and blighted as Carmel Valley or Carmel Mountain Ranch. That is, not at all. It's largely upper-middle-class Hispanic.
post #111 of 112
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Originally Posted by otayranchdweeb View Post

You've never been here. Chula Vista east of the 805 (where Otay Ranch Town Center is located) is far from sketchy. It's about as crime-ridden and blighted as Carmel Valley or Carmel Mountain Ranch. That is, not at all. It's largely upper-middle-class Hispanic.

Agreed. I have family living in that area (coincidentally, upper-middle-class Hispanic). It's a really nice place. However, I'm sure there are larger Apple Stores in the areaI've been to that one, and it's in the bottom tier of magic.
post #112 of 112
Glad no-one innocent was hurt.

Maybe the iPad 2s should be sold as soon as they come in the door instead of being held until the next day...
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