[quote]h, I don't know, I can't really talk to girls, it's not my area. You're right though, it's not really an issue of British girls specifically but just women in general.<hr></blockquote>
Ok here's my theory.
There is no being good with girls. Basically, if you're interested in a girl you should just go up and talk to her. Yes, you may be nervous and yes she may turn out to have a boyfriend. She may not be interested and she may slap you across the face if you pinch her arse before you say hi, my name is x and I know macfenian. However, if you're really interested she's worth taking any "risk" you have to take. If your nerves get the better of you the only thing that can come from it is that you'll end up settling for a girl that's almost who you want. That's not what you want to do because someone's going to end up hurt which is ten thousand times worth than getting turned down. Even when you're the hurter rather than the hurtee.
So just go up, talk to her. If she's not interested or what ever then that's too bad but at least you won't regret not taking a chance afterwards. Sooner or later a girl you do really like will react in a positive way, much sooner than you expect actually, and you'll be happy you took the chance. You'll actually be happy you took all the chances that turned out badly as well.
All this bla bla about girls like this and girls like that only becomes important once you take that first step. Worry about being yourself, opening the door for her, being funny and so on until you've actually taken that first step. She may turn out to be this total cow that doesn't have a clue what you're on about when you say you know me and not even be worth your bother. You will never know until you take a chance. Trying not to get hurt will amount to absolutely nothing good - at most it will amount to something acceptable.
Remember, girls are just guys like you and me but with breasts, treat them as such.
On that note, I would like to thank you for this thread because there is this girl who works in my local I've been wanting to ask out for months now but I never did because the place is always packed. You've convinced me I should just do it and see where it ends up. I don't know why I doubted that in the first place.
Cheers. And go get her. Good luck.
PS. She might actually not know me - forget what I said about that
[ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: macfenian ]</p>