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Apple on Thursday released iOS 4.3.2, an incremental update for its mobile operating system that addresses frozen screens during FaceTime calls and issues that prevented international users from connecting to 3G networks.

The update is also said to include the latest security updates. It is available for the iPhone 4 GSM model, iPhone 3GS, iPad 2, iPad, and third- and fourth-generation iPod touch.

The update does not apply to the CDMA-based Verizon iPhone 4, which was given its own unique software update, iOS 4.2.7.

The last incremental update for iOS came in late March in the form of iOS 4.3.1. It addressed issues related to some cellular networks, and also fixed an occasional graphics glitch with the fourth-generation iPod touch.

Rumors of an iOS 4.3.2 began soon after, with claims that the minor update would include mostly bug fixes. Apple is believed to have largely turned its attention to its next major release, expected to be iOS 5.

Apple has said it will show of the "future of iOS" at this year's Worldwide Developers Conference, set to kick off on June 6 in San Francisco, Calif. WWDC 2011 is expected to be a software-only event, as Apple is rumored to have no plans to show off new hardware.
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At first I thought this was the addition of FaceTime over ‘3G’ that was promised(?) in 2011.
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At first I thought this was the addition of FaceTime over 3G that was promised(?) in 2011.

When was it promised? I know they said they'd look into it, but I never heard the word promised. Also, and I don't know where you're located, but I don't think AT&T is ready for it.
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I never heard about a promise either. Before they add facetime over 3G, lets get the battery issues fixed please.
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I never heard about a promise either. Before they add facetime over 3G, lets get the battery issues fixed please.

Yeah battery life is seriously becoming a joke. Isn't the largest internal component of the iPhone it's battery?
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Facetime over 3G is the best way to go way over your downstream limit very quickly. Most users wouldn't understand that and would receive massive bills, bills that carriers would blame on Apple. Apple would get bad press and then well... that'd be close to a first.
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When was it promised? I know they said they'd look into it, but I never heard the word promised. Also, and I don't know where you're located, but I don't think AT&T is ready for it.

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I never heard about a promise either. Before they add facetime over 3G, lets get the battery issues fixed please.

Steve Jobs: "FaceTime will be WiFi-only in 2010. We need to work a little with the cellular providers. Get ready... for the future. So were WiFi-only in 2010.
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/wwdc-2010/ (1h : 33m : 27s)
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The CDMA version also got an update today, too.
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The CDMA version also got an update today, too.

Im surprised it wasnt versioned at 4.3.2. I wonder why Apple is holding that back.
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Im surprised it wasnt versioned at 4.3.2. I wonder why Apple is holding that back.

Just two different streams of development, which will presumably be merged together for iOS 5.
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Anyone know if 4.3.2 addresses the WiFi connectivity problems affecting a number of us iPhone 4 users?

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Steve Jobs: "FaceTime will be WiFi-only in 2010. We need to work a little with the cellular providers. Get ready... for the future. So we’re WiFi-only in 2010.”

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/wwdc-2010/ (1h : 33m : 27s)

So once again, where did he specifically promise 3G FaceTime in 2011? I didn't hear him say we promise it'll be available in 2011. Just because we're wi-fi only in 2010 doesn't mean it can't extend to 2011. Now if you want him to come out and specifically say that......that's your problem.
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Anyone know if 4.3.2 addresses the WiFi connectivity problems affecting a number of us iPhone 4 users?

Well if you have the problem now, go ahead and update to see if it works. Worst case, the problem is the same right?
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So once again, where did he specifically promise 3G FaceTime in 2011? I didn't hear him say we promise it'll be available in 2011. Just because we're wi-fi only in 2010 doesn't mean it can't extend to 2011. Now if you want him to come out and specifically say that......that's your problem.

If it will only be WiFi in 2010, you can’t see how this infers it allow a different connection in 2011? What other connection type do you think would be added besides WiFi? USB? Bluetooth? Do you not see how his words are an assurance that cellular connectivity will be coming after 2010?
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Im surprised it wasnt versioned at 4.3.2. I wonder why Apple is holding that back.

Fragmentation!!!
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I just wish they'd fix the iPhone 4 proximity switch already! How many of you have had your cheek dial or hang up when you don't want it ?!!!
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666.2 mb
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666.2 mb

Isn't this a pretty serious design flaw, when they can only update the OS by completely replacing it?

Android phones can do small incremental updates without needing to be plugged into a computer, but with iOS, the same updates would eat up a pretty major chunk out of the data plan...
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Does anybody know what exactly the difference between:
4.2.5 and 4.3
4.2.6 and 4.3.1
4.2.7 and 4.3.2 is?

Apart from a 0.0.5 version number difference and that one is for CDMA and the other for GSM?
Since even the CDMA iPad is at 4.3.2 it cannot simply mean CDMA vs. GSM.

And if you took the 666 MB 4.2.7 update and compared the files to the 666 MB 4.3.2 update, wouldn't 95% of all files be identical? Hey, I am sure the 4.3.2 update for a 3GS is not identical to the 4.3.2 update for the iPhone 4, yet both phones OS is labelled the same. Why not for the CDMA iPhone?

In short, is there anything so fundamentally different that it would matter from a user or developer standpoint if your phone is on 4.2.7 or 4.3.2? Or there any differences for a developer (except the simultaneous data issue)? We know they files are not identical but there must be difference exposed to the outside, otherwise there would not be a need to label it.
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I just wish they'd fix the iPhone 4 proximity switch already! How many of you have had your cheek dial or hang up when you don't want it ?!!!

They fixed that a long time ago. If you still have the problem, it's hardware so go get a replacement phone. I went through 2 until the 3rd worked.
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Does anybody know what exactly the difference between:
4.2.5 and 4.3
4.2.6 and 4.3.1
4.2.7 and 4.3.2 is?

Apart from a 0.0.5 version number difference and that one is for CDMA and the other for GSM?
Since even the CDMA iPad is at 4.3.2 it cannot simply mean CDMA vs. GSM.

And if you took the 666 MB 4.2.7 update and compared the files to the 666 MB 4.3.2 update, wouldn't 95% of all files be identical? Hey, I am sure the 4.3.2 update for a 3GS is not identical to the 4.3.2 update for the iPhone 4, yet both phones OS is labelled the same. Why not for the CDMA iPhone?

In short, is there anything so fundamentally different that it would matter from a user or developer standpoint if your phone is on 4.2.7 or 4.3.2? Or there any differences for a developer (except the simultaneous data issue)? We know they files are not identical but there must be difference exposed to the outside, otherwise there would not be a need to label it.

its fairly complex but the simplist chart, I know of, for surveying multiple versions of iOS is from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history#4.2.1
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Isn't this a pretty serious design flaw, when they can only update the OS by completely replacing it?

It is brute force but I'd hardly call it a design flaw. In fact as long as the downloads are manageable I'd call it a smart move on Apples part.

By doing this every piece of supplied software, especially libraries are at a know rev level. Further the entire development environment has been under extensive development and each full download should mean a better code base.
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Android phones can do small incremental updates without needing to be plugged into a computer, but with iOS, the same updates would eat up a pretty major chunk out of the data plan...

Oh so you are trying to promote Android here.

Seriously though I think Appkes approach is preferrable. There is a far lesser chance of a minor update breaking something. Ideally Apple tests the entire release before shipping so we as users should have fewer problems.

As to the data plan, well I avoid app updates over 3G for that very reason. It saves me a lot of bytes to wait until I can find an access point or connect to my Mac. I know people love the idea of the cloud but money is green and clouds are white. I could find meaning in that statement but I give up the fight.

In any event it is all about how you look at the issue and what you see. I think Apple has learned from the mistakes of others here.
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Seriously though I think Appkes approach is preferrable. There is a far lesser chance of a minor update breaking something. Ideally Apple tests the entire release before shipping so we as users should have fewer problems.

Totally agree!

Plus the entire system is in one continuous block of Flash memory. With incremental patches you have bits and pieces all over the place with small chunks of unused space. Then there is the Flash erase limitation which is lessened with the full replace. Finally it is sent completely optimized as you said, all the libraries and drivers are matched to one another. And of course there is always the latest jailbreaking prevention in each upgrade.

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Steve Jobs: "FaceTime will be WiFi-only in 2010. We need to work a little with the cellular providers. Get ready... for the future. So were WiFi-only in 2010.
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/wwdc-2010/ (1h : 33m : 27s)

That's certainly no promise of FaceTime over 3G. He makes no claim of anything other than it would only be WiFi in 2010. 2011 and beyond may or may not be 3G. If he was promising 3G in 2011, he would've said 3G isn't coming until 2011. In other words, they're working to make it happen, but all they know at this time is that there will be no 3G for FaceTime in 2010.
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Well if you have the problem now, go ahead and update to see if it works. Worst case, the problem is the same right?

The unexpected problems introduced with 4.3 (and not fixed with 4.3.1) have me a little gun shy, frankly. That's why I was asking if anyone who'd had the problem could confirm whether or not 4.3.2 fixed it. If it doesn't, I'm inclined to not even bother updating for fear of something else getting screwed up. I've lost data due to problems with iOS 4.3.

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If it will only be WiFi in 2010, you cant see how this infers it allow a different connection in 2011? What other connection type do you think would be added besides WiFi? USB? Bluetooth? Do you not see how his words are an assurance that cellular connectivity will be coming after 2010?

I wasn't asked, but sorry, there was no promise, inference yes, promise no. However, tis naught but a trifle... on the to the important question-

What is holding them up for 3G facetime? Skype is eating their lunch. There must be some reason. Does Skype pay a flat fee and Apple does not want to? Does Apple need to charge something .. but doesn't have the payment system set up???
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Argh. This is the absolute worst time for me to need a new iphone. I want to go with Verizon, but my AT&T backup won't restore to Verizon's earlier version of iOS. And now the white iPhone is in the mix in the near future.

I started a new acct with an AT&T iPhone two weeks ago. I have two more weeks before I can cancel out of my AT&T contract without serious penalties.

It would be awesome if Verizon would get the white iPhone and the current iOS before those two weeks were up!
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That's certainly no promise of FaceTime over 3G. He makes no claim of anything other than it would only be WiFi in 2010. 2011 and beyond may or may not be 3G. If he was promising 3G in 2011, he would've said 3G isn't coming until 2011. In other words, they're working to make it happen, but all they know at this time is that there will be no 3G for FaceTime in 2010.

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I wasn't asked, but sorry, there was no promise, inference yes, promise no. However, tis naught but a trifle... on the to the important question-

What is holding them up for 3G facetime? Skype is eating their lunch. There must be some reason. Does Skype pay a flat fee and Apple does not want to? Does Apple need to charge something .. but doesn't have the payment system set up???

Is there some reason the (?) after I wrote the word promise is being ignored? I made the statement, I found the video, I linked to it, I noted the time, I stated it was an inference.
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Seriously though I think Appkes approach is preferrable. There is a far lesser chance of a minor update breaking something. Ideally Apple tests the entire release before shipping so we as users should have fewer problems.

True, but for those few of us who do experience problems (as some of us did with 4.3.x), it can be a pain in the ass getting back up to speed.

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First of all the iPhone updates are not OTA like Droids. So only Droids owners have to worry about data caps. Secondly, does a Droid owner have control over when and if their OS update happens? iPhone users can choose when and even if they want to update their phone.

Microsoft has always loved the "patch" method. Plenty of horror stories there.
Apple has the better OS update formula.
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What is holding them up for 3G facetime? Skype is eating their lunch. There must be some reason. Does Skype pay a flat fee and Apple does not want to? Does Apple need to charge something .. but doesn't have the payment system set up???

Skype is eating their lunch? Boy, you have a weird view of reality! By what metric??

But mainly user experience of video chat under 3G kinda sucks. Same reason you need broadband to use video iChat. Sure, Apple technically *could* pump iChat video over dialup, but it looks and sounds terrible.
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Is there some reason the (?) after I wrote the word promise is being ignored? I made the statement, I found the video, I linked to it, I noted the time, I stated it was an inference.

If you using a "?" was meant as your indication that it was an inference on your part, then why choose the word promise to go along with it? I think the point is that if you agree that this was only your inference, then there is no argument here, because we all agree it was your inference.

I am a pretty reasonable person, and I can read between the lines as well as the next person. I want to be on your side on this, but I can't really agree with you on making this inference. When I heard Steve make these comments, I never thought "Oh yay!, this means facetime will go 3G next year."
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If it will only be WiFi in 2010, you cant see how this infers it allow a different connection in 2011? What other connection type do you think would be added besides WiFi? USB? Bluetooth? Do you not see how his words are an assurance that cellular connectivity will be coming after 2010?

But just because it infers doesn't mean it's a PROMISE. Like AT&T and their tethering plus MMS....
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If you using a "?" was meant as your indication that it was an inference on your part, then why choose the word promise to go along with it? I think the point is that if you agree that this was only your inference, then there is no argument here, because we all agree it was your inference.

I am a pretty reasonable person, and I can read between the lines as well as the next person. I want to be on your side on this, but I can't really agree with you on making this inference. When I heard Steve make these comments, I never thought "Oh yay!, this means facetime will go 3G next year."

I was recalling a few words from Steve Jobs from almost a year ago, hence my inclusion of the question mark. Does “, as i recall, “ literally have to be spelled out? I certainly think the QUESTION mark is enough to show doubt as that it was promised.

PS: I think his words do imply they are planning to bring FaceTime over ‘3G’ this year. Whether that goal happens or not is another thing. Sometimes there are delays, just look at the white iPhone.
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If it will only be WiFi in 2010, you cant see how this infers it allow a different connection in 2011? What other connection type do you think would be added besides WiFi? USB? Bluetooth? Do you not see how his words are an assurance that cellular connectivity will be coming after 2010?

We have to work with the cell carriers. Hence, it's in their hands to get their backbones ready before we begin testing it on our end. That's an open ended time frame, and therefore, not an inference to 2011.
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I was recalling a few words from Steve Jobs from almost a year ago, hence my inclusion of the question mark. Does , as i recall, literally have to be spelled out? I certainly think the QUESTION mark is enough to show doubt as that it was promised.

PS: I think his words do imply they are planning to bring FaceTime over 3G this year. Whether that goal happens or not is another thing. Sometimes there are delays, just look at the white iPhone.

After several of us said there was no promise, you continued with your claim by citing a link. You can probably understand why we all thought you were still claiming it to be a promise.

As for your thought process, did Steve intend to imply this meaning? He surely might have intended it, as he chooses his words carefully. My guess is that he didn't want to say yes or no, so he made a vague comment that invited some people to draw their own conclusions and maybe even assume incorrectly. I was not one of these people, but I can see how you jumped to this conclusion of an implied promise because you wanted to believe it. I have been in that boat before.
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After several of us said there was no promise, you continued with your claim by citing a link. You can probably understand why we all thought you were still claiming it to be a promise.

Now who is inferring? I provided a link, a quote and even the exact time in which the comment I was referring to was made.

For future reference anytime someone put a (?) after a word or number it means they are unsure if its correct. Even Wikipedia notes this usage.
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The question mark can also be used as a meta-sign to signal uncertainty regarding what precedes. It is usually put between brackets (?). The uncertainty may concern either a superficial (such as unsure spelling) or a deeper truth (real meaning) level.
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Before the install the battery was listed at 14%. (iOS 4.3.1)

After the update the battery lists now at 22%. (iOS 4.3.2)
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I was recalling a few words from Steve Jobs from almost a year ago, hence my inclusion of the question mark. Does , as i recall, literally have to be spelled out? I certainly think the QUESTION mark is enough to show doubt as that it was promised.

PS: I think his words do imply they are planning to bring FaceTime over 3G this year. Whether that goal happens or not is another thing. Sometimes there are delays, just look at the white iPhone.

I'm with you on this. From what Steve Jobs actually said, only a lawyer or a pedant would assume anything other than Facetime would be 3G in 2011.
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Before the install the battery was listed at 14%. (iOS 4.3.1)

After the update the battery lists now at 22%. (iOS 4.3.2)

I guess the question is, how long did you have it plugged into USB while it was downloading the update and then applying it? The phone would have been charging that time.
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