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post #1 of 28
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I trade in the Stock Market and it has been a good month. I bought in Oct and just sold:

Palm stock Sold at $18.09

<a href="http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=palm&sid=0&o_symb=palm" target="_blank">BigCharts Link</a>

Also Bought in Oct and just sold Ciena Stock:

<a href="http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=cien&sid=0&o_symb=cien&freq=1& time=8" target="_blank">BigCharts Link</a>

Anyone else a trader?

If so what do you see out there...

What to buy?

Fellows
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post #2 of 28
I don't know how to get in. I have very little to start with- maybe 2-3 thousand dollars. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #3 of 28
[quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:
<strong>I don't know how to get in. I have very little to start with- maybe 2-3 thousand dollars. :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

thats more than enough to do a little fun. i played the market for about a year basing off of $500. in the end, i wasn't putting enough attention into it, and i lost more than i gained. if u really want to start, i suggest u check out <a href="http://www.fool.com." target="_blank">www.fool.com.</a> i really liked the advice and the thought-process behind it. u can open an account with several brokers (like ameritrade) for about 5 hundy (if memory serves), so a few grand would be clear. one of the great parts about these places, is u can buy odd-lobs.

[edit: note to self: words must be typed, via keyboard]

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post #4 of 28
Knee deep in Munder Future Tech B. (I know, traitor, but hey, if M$ has the stock price and Apple doesn't....)
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post #5 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:
<strong>I don't know how to get in. I have very little to start with- maybe 2-3 thousand dollars. :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>


I would open an Ameritrade account. I started with a Datek account and Ameritrade bought Datek. Datek was Fast with orders. Most were filled on average in 2 seconds. Market orders that is. Also Datek had a wonderful "Real Time Streamer" where by you can type in all the stock symbols and watch the stock move if you so want. Ameritrade kept this wonderful Streamer.

Also as was mentioned above Fool.com is great

also<a href="http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/default.asp?siteid=mktw&avatar=seen" target="_blank">CBS Marketwatch </a> is a great site to read over.

As is <a href="http://www.ipohome.com/default.asp" target="_blank">IPO Home</a> There are some good IPO's still. Just not near as many as before and it now takes about a month or longer to make a great return instead of the one day returns of days gone by.

Look at this link: I wish I had bought LeapFrog they make the little electronic books for children. My niece has two of their books.

<a href="http://www.ipohome.com/marketwatch/topfive.asp" target="_blank">Top IPO list</a>

Good Luck

Fellowship

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post #6 of 28
My plan is to average in over the next 30 years.

If/when I'm full time where I work my employer has double matching for the 401k. You put in $1 they put in $2. Nice huh?
post #7 of 28
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SPJ check out the Ameritrade Website.

They are offering 25 "no charge" trades with a new account!!! Not bad !

<a href="http://www.ameritrade.com/" target="_blank">Ameritrade Link</a>

Fellowship

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post #8 of 28
Does nobody have any problems, conscience wise, with trading?

I know there is quite some opposition against it in anti-globalist circles, claiming it is a kind of business which can only be performed by the highest classes, and which is in practice exempt from taxes (and which actually is an open terrain for all kinds of shady money transfers, and money-laundring).

Not only that, but one gives ones money to a big corporation, which then does with it what it wants. A case which gets even worse in 'group trading', where one is promised a certain interest, without any information on the type of trading involved. One runs the risk of actively promoting something which one verbally contends with in daily life. 'Unethical' corporations as arms producers, polluting industries, companies exploiting free (sometimes child) labour in third world countries...

I do not plea for a ban on trading. But it is very hard to know where one's money is going, how it is spent. We all have, (at least, such is the idea I get, living in this world) blood on our hands. (many people have, unwittingly, some piece of clothing made by children, some piece of electronics made by exploited asian folk, some piece of furniture made of precious rain-forest woods and by (again) children (anybody ever heard of, be it rumor or fact, 'evidence' incriminating IKEA in this matter).

However, where does one place a boundary. Some propose the celebrated Toibin-tax. This would in effect involve a minimal tax on every trading transaction, the benefits of which would go to aid for third world countries.

In any case, I have a very strong distrust of trading, and so do many people who care about tomorrow's world.

I think this discussion would beift these boards better than tips on how to gain some (even) more personal profit.
post #9 of 28
and Fellowshipchurchibook:

not targetting you or anything, but do you not think that your sig is over the top? It is, on average, longer than your posts. I'm sure there's some rule that would advise against such a thing.

I for one would appreciate it if you'd tone it down a bit.
post #10 of 28
[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>and Fellowshipchurchibook:

not targetting you or anything, but do you not think that your sig is over the top? It is, on average, longer than your posts. I'm sure there's some rule that would advise against such a thing.

I for one would appreciate it if you'd tone it down a bit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah, leave the poor bastard alone. That's how he gets his woodys, can't we leave him to his fun?
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post #11 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>Does nobody have any problems, conscience wise, with trading?

I know there is quite some opposition against it in anti-globalist circles, claiming it is a kind of business which can only be performed by the highest classes, and which is in practice exempt from taxes (and which actually is an open terrain for all kinds of shady money transfers, and money-laundring). Not only that, but one gives ones money to a big corporation, which then does with it what it wants. A case which gets even worse in 'group trading', where one is promised a certain interest, without any information on the type of trading involved. One runs the risk of actively promoting something which one verbally contends with in daily life. 'Unethical' corporations as arms producers, polluting industries, companies exploiting free (sometimes child) labour in third world countries...

Not only that, but one gives ones money to a big corporation, which then does with it what it wants. A case which gets even worse in 'group trading', where one is promised a certain interest, without any information on the type of trading involved. One runs the risk of actively promoting something which one verbally contends with in daily life. 'Unethical' corporations as arms producers, polluting industries, companies exploiting free (sometimes child) labour in third world countries...


I do not plea for a ban on trading. But it is very hard to know where one's money is going, how it is spent. We all have, (at least, such is the idea I get, living in this world) blood on our hands. (many people have, unwittingly, some piece of clothing made by children, some piece of electronics made by exploited asian folk, some piece of furniture made of precious rain-forest woods and by (again) children (anybody ever heard of, be it rumor or fact, 'evidence' incriminating IKEA in this matter).

However, where does one place a boundary. Some propose the celebrated Toibin-tax. This would in effect involve a minimal tax on every trading transaction, the benefits of which would go to aid for third world countries.

In any case, I have a very strong distrust of trading, and so do many people who care about tomorrow's world.

I think this discussion would beift these boards better than tips on how to gain some (even) more personal profit.</strong><hr></blockquote>


You may not know this but you have not a CLUE what you are posting here... I hate to say but this shows a level of ignorance on your part about this subject.

Let me help you to understand this a little better:

Let's walk through this:

[quote]<strong>I know there is quite some opposition against it in anti-globalist circles, claiming it is a kind of business which can only be performed by the highest classes, and which is in practice exempt from taxes (and which actually is an open terrain for all kinds of shady money transfers, and money-laundring).<hr></blockquote></strong>

I am not talking about day trading where I sit in front of the computer all day long and close out all of my trades at the end of the trading session. That is another issue all together. I am a trader who buys and holds short term like a month or two and sells. Takes very little of my time. Tax exempt? not quite... not in the US anyway. I pay my income tax rate on the Short Term Capital Gains. If an asset were held over 12 months then I would pay Long Term Capital Gains Taxes. I have paid tax on every Gain. It is tracked and the IRS gets a statement of my earnings from my Brokerage Firm. Laundering money? Wow.... I am not aware of this going on with traders who open an individual account and trade stocks.

[quote]<strong>
Not only that, but one gives ones money to a big corporation, which then does with it what it wants. A case which gets even worse in 'group trading', where one is promised a certain interest, without any information on the type of trading involved. One runs the risk of actively promoting something which one verbally contends with in daily life. 'Unethical' corporations as arms producers, polluting industries, companies exploiting free (sometimes child) labour in third world countries...<hr></blockquote></strong>

Ummm I do not "give" money to business when I buy stock from the prior stock holder and I have no idea who that is. There are always buyers and sellers of stock. I am a willing buyer and there are willing sellers. Just like when you buy a used car from an individual. You did not buy that car from the Manufacturer rather an individual who happens to be a willing seller. Same with Stocks. Buyers and Sellers agree on a price of a transaction. No money going to corporations.


As for the closing half of your post I can only tell you that you are not aware of what it is I am talking about here in this thread. Morality about child labor, emvironment, etc. has not any relationship to the issue of buying and selling stocks.

The market has a dynamic price that is agreed upon by the willing buyers and sellers. Same is True with antique traders or Baseball Card traders.

There are no victoms involved with a transaction agreed upon by both the buyer and the seller. If both desire to perform their end of the transaction it is a market.

I hope this has helped.


Fellowship

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post #12 of 28
[quote] As for the closing half of your post I can only tell you that you are not aware of what it is I am talking about here in this thread. Morality about child labor, emvironment, etc. has not any relationship to the issue of buying and selling stocks. <hr></blockquote>

I have to disagree with you here. The quest for higher profits and better stock prices is what leads companies to do morally or ethically questionable activities. By purchasing a stock you are validating the activities of the company that issued the stock.
post #13 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
<strong>

I have to disagree with you here. The quest for higher profits and better stock prices is what leads companies to do morally or ethically questionable activities. By purchasing a stock you are validating the activities of the company that issued the stock.</strong><hr></blockquote>


If you want to believe that then I would say you are entitled to buy as you see fit a company or not at all for that matter.

Buying or selling Stock is no different than buying consumer products at the marketplace. If you are in the market to purchase a sweater you can choose what manufacturer you choose based on your morality inclinations.

The company "make any up for this example" has no idea when I buy the stock and sell it. I usually buy the stock after a company has done poorly because I am an optimist and do not believe the company "at least the one I chose after research" will stay at that low point. I buy it thinking that in the case of "company involved" that things will turn around.

Not all corporate leaders are currupt.
curruption goes on if I buy and sell stocks or if I put my money under the mattress.

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post #14 of 28
I have an E-Trade account from my old company stock, but it's just cash sitting there since they went private again. A Dot-Com bomb if you will. Is Ameritrade a lot better than E-Trade? I was thinking of Datek (now Ameritrade I guess).
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post #15 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by trowa:
<strong>I have an E-Trade account from my old company stock, but it's just cash sitting there since they went private again. A Dot-Com bomb if you will. Is Ameritrade a lot better than E-Trade? I was thinking of Datek (now Ameritrade I guess).</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am not familiar with how great the service is with E-Trade but the Website quality is so good with Ameritrade that I could not imagine it being any better. All information on your account is kept updated at real-time. Not information reported from the previous days close. Their streamer is wonderful without a flaw. Streaming real time quotes where you can enter in many many many stock symbols and watch the stocks move. The execution time of the transaction is so close to instant I could not imagine any better. IPO access is 100%

Ameritrade today is what I was used to with Datek.

It is simply so good I have no reason to change.

Here is a pic of my Ameritrade Streamer:



I may open up an E-Trade account just to have my options open. Use both.

Fellowship

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post #16 of 28
My plan is to average the blood on my hands over 30 years.
post #17 of 28
[quote] Not all corporate leaders are currupt.
curruption goes on if I buy and sell stocks or if I put my money under the mattress. <hr></blockquote>

I agree with your first statement, but not the second. Large institutional investors have convinced corporations to change their practices by refusing to buy their stocks and hey, kids had an impact on McDonalds by not protesting and boycotting their products influencing them to become a little more enviornmentally conscious.
post #18 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by trick fall:
<strong>

I agree with your first statement, but not the second. Large institutional investors have convinced corporations to change their practices by refusing to buy their stocks and hey, kids had an impact on McDonalds by not protesting and boycotting their products influencing them to become a little more enviornmentally conscious.</strong><hr></blockquote>


That is all well and good.

I just am not such an activist most of the time when I choose to trade.

This thread is about trading.

One thing to put pressure, is another subject trading stocks.

With respect,

Fellowship
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post #19 of 28
I don't play in the stock market because the return isn't good enough for me.

I much prefer Real Estate, much higher returns for the money invested.

Nick

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post #20 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by trumptman:
<strong>I don't play in the stock market because the return isn't good enough for me.

I much prefer Real Estate, much higher returns for the money invested.

Nick</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am in Real Estate too Nick

I love every part of Real Estate except the property taxes. Last year paid $40,000 in Property taxes alone. Ouch....

Ouch Ouch Ouch...

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post #21 of 28
Look, Fellow, if you buy stock in a company, you are pushing forward that company, even if you paid another person, who doesn't have nothing to with that company.

It is, to extend the blood on hands metaphor, not only as if there is blood on your hands (as if you just buy shady furniture, or eat at a shady chain of restaurants), but you are actually holding a weapon. You are so much into getting more personal gain that you participate in a company (i.e. hold some of its stock) doing evil.

Also, there is a another angle to trading and gaining money without work. In Biblical terms, there is a certain people (let's not name them, this not about them now) who are known as loan sharks, traders, and therefore as heathens, up to burn in hell.

What is this obsession with getting more money? I mean, fellow, you are, at times, a bit evangelicising (?) but you go ahead and perform many actions that go against the very nature of christianity.

What you are doing here, it is a capital sin, fellowship, called GREED.

Or wouldn't you agree? I'd like to know how you look on this.
post #22 of 28
Also, fellowship, my request for you to tone down the sig still stands.
post #23 of 28
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[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>Look, Fellow, if you buy stock in a company, you are pushing forward that company, even if you paid another person, who doesn't have nothing to with that company.

It is, to extend the blood on hands metaphor, not only as if there is blood on your hands (as if you just buy shady furniture, or eat at a shady chain of restaurants), but you are actually holding a weapon. You are so much into getting more personal gain that you participate in a company (i.e. hold some of its stock) doing evil.

Also, there is a another angle to trading and gaining money without work. In Biblical terms, there is a certain people (let's not name them, this not about them now) who are known as loan sharks, traders, and therefore as heathens, up to burn in hell.

What is this obsession with getting more money? I mean, fellow, you are, at times, a bit evangelicising (?) but you go ahead and perform many actions that go against the very nature of christianity.

What you are doing here, it is a capital sin, fellowship, called GREED.

Or wouldn't you agree? I'd like to know how you look on this.</strong><hr></blockquote>


You have so many chips on your shoulder that it is not even funny.

It is not sinful to trade stocks. Get real will ya?

"Loan Sharks" The last time I looked I am not underwriting loans to anyone let alone charging a rate of debt service.

I think what you are really saying for whatever perverse reason is that "profit" from any transaction is in your mind "wrong"

In some cases that would be true. In my opinion not in essence however. I am not doing anything illegal. I buy something when it is cheap and I sell it when it gains some value.

This is similar to what a retailer does or any other business.

Profit is not evil. Only in cases of monopoly.

You could use a class in economics with material written in the last 50 years.

Are you from a socialist ant-corporate kind of euro minded brainwash? I mean really? Where do you get your acidic mentality? This thread does not pertain to you for what ever reason. Try moving on to another thread.

My sig is my business and I have a little hunch that you have more of a problem with my beliefs than anything else you waste page space over.

Get over yourself and go read about Communism and how there is "No God".

I would agree with you about it being bad if I were obsessed with trading. As I know I am not obsessed with trading I am perfectly at peace with it.

Let me know about the virtues of Communism will ya..

Peace

Fellowship

BTW this is the last post I am going to reply to you on this issue.

You have your view on trading and I have my view. This post was not for you but as you like to stir the pot you came in and added your acid.

Go take your acid to another American or Texas issue you want to Demonize.

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post #24 of 28
If you want to buy "clean" stocks, from companies that do not engage in things like sweatshop running, rampant polluting, etc there are several firms which specialize in helping people do just that. Pick up a copy of The Nation and look for the ads in there.

[quote]I don't play in the stock market because the return isn't good enough for me.

I much prefer Real Estate, much higher returns for the money invested.<hr></blockquote>

So, Mr. Carelton Sheets, tell us, how does one get into this?
post #25 of 28
[quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:
<strong>

Profit is not evil. Only in cases of monopoly.

You could use a class in economics with material written in the last 50 years.

Are you from a socialist ant-corporate kind of euro minded brainwash? I mean really? Where do you get your acidic mentality? This thread does not pertain to you for what ever reason. Try moving on to another thread.

[...]

Get over yourself and go read about Communism and how there is "No God".

[...]

Let me know about the virtues of Communism will ya..

Peace

Fellowship

BTW this is the last post I am going to reply to you on this issue.

You have your view on trading and I have my view. This post was not for you but as you like to stir the pot you came in and added your acid.

Go take your acid to another American or Texas issue you want to Demonize.

[ 11-26-2002: Message edited by: FellowshipChurch iBook ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


Common, Fellowship, what is this now? I asked you a simple question. There is no need for you to throw stupid claims of myself being communist at me.

I would not have a problem with that if they were true, but they aren't (the main reason being that I do not trust human nature enough). Moreover, I think they are mainly meant to discredit my post in a lowly manner. Much as Hollywood held its communist witch-hunt in the 1950s, todays America is still deathly afraid of the red danger. Nevermind that, Fellow, I am too down-to-earth to be a communist, so lets let these claim rest.

This is not about stirring the pot, Fellowship. Many people in my family are active traders, and I do not care less about them for it. Moreover, this is a discussion board, and this is a subject I feel a discussion is in order. This is not about you fellowship, it is about the topic at hand.

I feel, however, that one cannot overlook the demonstrations by anti-globalists, which take place two-three times a year, and which have been world-news more than once. These point to the fact that trading may not be all that positive as it is portrayed to be.

It is good to think about one's actions, especially if they, at first glance, seem to conflict with another part of one's morals. I don't understand why you seem keen on violently subduing every notion of trading being unchristian.

I resent the implication you make about it being legal and hence morally acceptable. Death penalty is legal in Texas, but you do not think that morally acceptable (if I am correct).

[quote] My sig is my business and I have a little hunch that you have more of a problem with my beliefs than anything else you waste page space over. <hr></blockquote>

I do not have any problem with your beliefs. After the chat we had, I cannot even believe you could say this. Nobody will stop you. I didn't read your signature, I merely asked you to tone it down, for it was more than longish, and should be, at least in my opinion, a bit poignant, short.

The reason: it messes with the forum display. It fills the better part of my screen with an endless repetition of something I already saw the first time.

This is mainly to do with the fact that it is a bit longish.

Why is it that you constantly have to claim I act from negative motives, when all I want is foster some discussion (and hey, it's not my fault if our points of view are so far apart that they cease to be funny).
post #26 of 28
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Double look below. Sorry

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post #27 of 28
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[quote]<strong>all I want is foster some discussion <hr></blockquote></strong>

I have no problem with discussion. I would say that if you want to label as bad something give specific reasons as to why trading is "bad" not just that a band of people that bash in windows thinks it is bad. I do not want links to their websites as I know what these people stand for. What I want if we are discussing as you say you want is for "you" to give specific reasons on why "you" think it is a bad effect when an individual stock trader trades.

I am completely open to your thoughts on this. Where I start to come down on you with the statements on my last post is when I feel you have been brainwashed by a mob of thugs who themselves are not educated on the issues but rather like to be on TV around the world. As a matter of fact I would be willing to bet that they know more about weed than politics. Many times all things corporate are blamed for ills in the third world. Sometimes this has merit and sometimes it has none. The way to influence business is by not supporting that business if you find what they do as being morally wrong. Getting a crowd of thugs to bash in windows is not effective communication of anything that would lead towards any hint of progress.

That is not an insult that is a reality I see.

If I am wrong please correct me.

I do hope to hear your thoughts as to why it is "bad" as you said to trade.

I do not see any harm in it.

You mentioned the Death Penalty as being Legal but Wrong. This I agree with you 100%. I am not saying that all things legal are good.

Your thoughts?

Fellowship

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post #28 of 28
Well, Fellow, thanks for reconsidering.

My real concern is not at all ignited by the anti-globalist movement (I use them merely to show that I am not the only one concerned - also, I think you should cut these people some slack, they do have the world and what's good for it as their purpose), but rather, all boils down to one thing:

- the conflict with the christian/universal disapproval of greed. I may not be a fierce believer, nor any kind of believer at all, but I do (try to) live my life according to morals which I think worthy. I have never been able to relieve myself of the impression that trading is going for more than what is rightfully yours.

You have to agree, fellowship, that lust for money has been the cause of many wrongs in human history.


(this said, I still have to admit I have a savings account, totalling over 3% interest yearly, without me doing anything).

(and I stop here, for I feel this might well be the absolute basics of the issue).
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