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post #81 of 93
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

Either this is some sort of "legal dance" between Apple and Samsung or a foolish quest on Apple's part... All of these devices have the same look and feel, IMO.

Actually Apple is well within their rights on this one.

The Galaxy Tablet picture clearly shows a Dock Connector. Apple certainly wouldn't have licensed this and therefore Samsung is wrong.
post #82 of 93
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Do we have a Samsung tablet at CEBIT 2006? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnlS1cEc9Q

Huh? That's a Windows tablet, are we supposed to be shocked that there were Windows tablets before the iPad?

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And even the original iPhone has some design elements similar to Samsung's FC700 shown months before Apple released any images of their smartphone. IMHO, this isn't as clear-cut an issue as might be imagined.

Wow, this one has gone to urban myth in record time. They didn't show the FC700 till a month after the iPhone was shown, and didn't release till nearly a year later. That fact makes it actually more of a clear cut issue, not less.
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post #83 of 93
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

So what radical form are manufacturers supposed to take to not look similar to each other?

All manufacturers establish a "look" or style language for their products, Samsung had one before the iPhone, Nokia has one, Palm had one etc.

Apple's argument is that Samsung should either go back to the look they had before the iPhone or invent a new one.

For reference ... just before the iPhone all Samsung phones looked like this:

or this:


After iPhone:
post #84 of 93
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

It was replaced by iMacs that were just as cheap (price wise) in bulk by popular demand for a smaller footprint and digital flat LCD screen.

Well, also, the eMac was never intended to be sold to the general public. It was designed for the educational marketbut just as it was coming out, the Justice Department handed Microsoft that market (which had previously belonged to Apple) on a silver platter. They required Microsoft to donate some (can't be bothered to look it up) billions of dollars worth of computers to school districts all across the country. Guess what OS they were running? (And of course, that was the only part of that consent decree that MS actually complied with.)

After that, Apple made the best of a bad situation and sold them to the public as long as they could. They were never terribly popular, but I loved minethat thing was built like a tank! It was functionally identical to the G4 iMac, but a lot cheaper. What's not to like? Well, it was kind of ugly, but....
post #85 of 93
Yes, I acknowledge my own failure of due diligence. I'd like to think that's unusual for me.


Certainly a lesson we shouldn't accept statements made in a forum as fact and repost them without some personal investigation.

Guilty!

As for the tablet mention, it was only as evidence that Sammy was trying to design a tablet well before the iPad became official. Apparently Android is a better choice for one than Windows. As the hot wing challenger said, "Come on Ice Cream"
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post #86 of 93
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Yes, I acknowledge my own failure of due diligence. I'd like to think that's unusual for me.


Certainly a lesson we shouldn't accept statements made in a forum as fact and repost them without some personal investigation.

Guilty!




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As for the tablet mention, it was only as evidence that Sammy was trying to design a tablet well before the iPad became official. Apparently Android is a better choice for one than Windows. As the hot wing challenger said, "Come on Ice Cream"

Well, sure, but don't think the question is whether or not Samsung had tried to design a tablet, as Windows tablets are pretty commonplace (if not very popular). It's that once they saw the iPad, they tried to make a tablet that copied it as closely as possible (and once they saw the iPad 2 they openly went back to the drawing board to copy that more closely).

I mean, lord, look at the thing they were peddling in '06-- it's a brick.
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post #87 of 93
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Do we have a Samsung tablet at CEBIT 2006? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnlS1cEc9Q

And even the original iPhone has some design elements similar to Samsung's FC700 shown months before Apple released any images of their smartphone. IMHO, this isn't as clear-cut an issue as might be imagined.

Here is positive proof that Apple blatantly ripped of Samsung's Universal Remote. First shown at the The Great Exhibition of 1851.



Right, can we stop with the fuckin' stupid now?
post #88 of 93
Evening Piot. Figured since I ignored you earlier that you'd probably come back around.
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post #89 of 93
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Evening Piot. Figured since I ignored you earlier that you'd probably come back around.

Evening to you too.

I am not aware of you ignoring me. I post wherever I see fit. Mostly when I see a whole lot of stupid. Your link to an ancient UMPC falls into that category. As does the repetition of the F700 stuff. Your concern over the ' desperate' Apple perception is misguided and naive.

You seem pretty eager to, politely, add a little low-level Apple negativity to most of these threads. Coupled with your posting frequency, it's a behaviour that is pretty familiar to some of us here. Let's just see how long it lasts.
post #90 of 93
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Well, also, the eMac was never intended to be sold to the general public. It was designed for the educational market—but just as it was coming out, the Justice Department handed Microsoft that market (which had previously belonged to Apple) on a silver platter. They required Microsoft to donate some (can't be bothered to look it up) billions of dollars worth of computers to school districts all across the country. Guess what OS they were running? (And of course, that was the only part of that consent decree that MS actually complied with.)

After that, Apple made the best of a bad situation and sold them to the public as long as they could. They were never terribly popular, but I loved mine—that thing was built like a tank! It was functionally identical to the G4 iMac, but a lot cheaper. What's not to like? Well, it was kind of ugly, but....

Sure you're right on all that. I was talking about the education market not consumer. I'm a trained educational technologist and never found a school district, who wanted Macs, that would take an eMac over an iMac if the price was close. Today an iMac in bulk for education is the same price point of the old eMacs. Space was always limited in a school lab and iMacs are just easier to find room for or move to repair them. If you offered Mac Pro towers to them for the same low price, they might take 1 or 2 as work stations and turn down the rest for the footprint of an iMac.
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Have you been totally ignoring the stories where experts agree Apple must defend its patents?

There are 'experts' on the internet? Do tell. Next you'll be telling me there are real girls too.
post #92 of 93
Either this is some sort of "legal dance" between Apple and Samsung or a foolish quest on Apple's part... All of these devices have the same look and feel, IMO.
post #93 of 93
News that Samsung has to hand over it's latest tablets and phones to Apple's legal team (altho Apple themselves aren't permitted to tear 'em down).

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/appl...spat-50003870/
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