Android fans accuse Apple of copying Samsung first - Page 7

Originally Posted by xSamplex

Apple has been EXPOSED. Let's face the fact that technology is rife with unattributed cross-fertilization, stop suing each other, and build great products instead. Eh?

Originally Posted by Elastic Reason

Really? Why spend the millions of dollars in R&D if anyone can just copy it? IP and patents protect the competitive advantage of everyone. You would think differently the first time your work was ripped-off.

Originally Posted by asdasd

Yeah. Apple use in increasingly become common ( it was always normal - in the sense that normal people use Apple) then the Android hate Apple types become even more fanatical. I think it is psychological, not just are they generally angry shut-ins, but they tend to look at Apple users as the cool types who disliked them in school - something like that.

Its surprising, in many ways, that Android has gotten over the hurdles of it's initial supporters.

Originally Posted by reticon

This is precisely the debate, and Apple clearly stole this design. There are plenty of unbiased sites pointing out that Samsung could not possibly have completed production within a month and both Samsung and Apple copied LG. I have Mac and PC and droid, and had an iPhone, I'm no fanboy. The facts just don't look good for Apple here.

Originally Posted by alienzed

I'm curious, did TV manufacturers sue each other for all using a giant screen that displayed images with a power, channel and volume buttons along the bottom?

Originally Posted by AndroidDomination

Yeah.. typical Apple bullshit.. when you start revealing garbage about Apple or stuff doesn't work.. don't get upset..it's only electronics.. it's not important..

IT IS IMPORTANT because our lives are increasingly depending on technology and money we spend goes somewhere.. Of course it's important.

No I"m not a kid..

My facts are not skewed.. they are truth...

I'm not upset at all.. I'm actually very calm.. I just really dislike the BS coming from Apple and PR shills and so on trying to defend them.

Other than that..I'm fine thanks. I would say Apple fans are mad and upset because Apple stuff and market-share are going back to insignificance just like it did with desktops and WIndows.

Originally Posted by jnjnjnjn

The point is we're speaking of the exception of the 'rule': Apple. It important to defend good ideas and stand behind them, otherwise we end-up with 25 years of Microsoft dominance or nazi-Duitsland.

J.

Originally Posted by sprockkets



Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Stop posting shit and answer the question.



Hey Android central doesn't troll for apple fanboi's! There aren't any apple articles! But you couldn't be assed to check that site out for 1 minute to come to that conclusion!

Originally Posted by MacRulez

So according to Digler, Apple ripped off LG.

Digler's excellent research demonstrates that even an AI lackey has no trouble finding sufficient prior art to invalidate Apple's design suit.

Good going, Dan.

Originally Posted by Gatorguy

But I'm surprised you're still bothering to reply to any of them Solipsism.

Originally Posted by fuwafuwa

Droidtards might understand after a long explanation, but Droidouches like AndroidDomination are just stubborn autistic teens.

Originally Posted by RichL

Here's a drawing of DED browsing the Android forums...

Originally Posted by AndroidDomination
LOL..Apple fanboys and PR shills are strong at it..


First of all.. Samsung F700 was mentioned and announced in second half of 2006. The phone was already designed and developed as it was Samsung's flagship product and has been in R&D for a while before iPhone was revealed..

So to say that just because F700 was shown a month after iPhone proves nothing but that Apple and Steve Jobs rushed iPhone announcement out to make sure it was shown before F700 because it looked very similar in designed.. More polished but similar. F700 was released before iPhone in the non-US and non-European markets and then came to Europe in November again close or before iPhone.

Now, let's address how Apple does these things and gets away with it..

Well it's easy.. Steve Jobs has this perfected from the Xerox days.. he goes and "partners" with companies like Samsung, Motorola and others and asks them to make a phone to connect to iTunes so Apple ecosystem will work with them (aka ROKR).. in this partnership, just like he did with Xerox and Creative Labs prior to the rip of design and technology behind original iPod, he gets access/gets shown to the latest designs and ideas of the products to be released by these companies in a good will that the companies will work together..

He then, goes back to his office and has his army of slaves who he yells at and molests to make him a super high polished version/copy of the same product but with a bit of an Apple gloss.

Naturally, he can afford doing that because he basically stole the whole concept and R&D time and money that some of these companies invested and just stole ideas. This allows him to really considerably cut down on the time it takes to release a product.

This is standard operating procedure for Apple.. Steve Jobs is master at it and he has been doing forever.. and he doesn't really hide it... he admits it himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU


But then again.. this is not the first thing they stole.. whole new line up of Apple's design is stolen from Dieter Rams. Almost every piece of modern Apple design is a straight rip from Dieter's concepts.

http://gizmodo.com/#!343641/1960s-br...-apples-future


Here's a tip Apple shillboys.. when you are trying to accuse someone of stealing ideas.. make sure that you are not the worst rip off artists in the room.

What are we talking about here.. Steve Jobs is a criminal.. he has been sued for stock fraud for Christ sake... He's not only a thief in design sense but in a traditional sense as well.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Im optimistic.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Actually, that's exactly what infringement is, theft of intellectual property.

Originally Posted by reticon

This is precisely the debate, and Apple clearly stole this design. There are plenty of unbiased sites pointing out that Samsung could not possibly have completed production within a month and both Samsung and Apple copied LG. I have Mac and PC and droid, and had an iPhone, I'm no fanboy. The facts just don't look good for Apple here.

Originally Posted by Mac-sochist

The tabloid gossip you linked to. And what are you denying? That "Lisa" is Steve Jobs' daughter? That he named a $10,000 computer after her? That her birthdate is the origin of the Mac's timekeeping system? All these are physical facts, not innuendo. So, yesI am uninterested in gossip.

Originally Posted by Mac-sochist

So much disinformation, so little time...nah, not worth the waste of electrons. You've posted 2145 posts on an Apple-oriented website to say how much you hate Apple. There's no breaking through that wall of pathology. Enjoy whatever they're paying youor if they're not paying you, consider therapy.

(That goes for AndroidDomination, MacRules, Menno, sprocketts, etc., etc., et endless cetera.)

Originally Posted by jfanning

Is the fact that he originally claimed she wasn't his, her mother raise her on welfare, and he signed court documents claiming it couldn't be as he was sterile doesn't enter into equation? Or is the happy ending enough to wipe all this from memory?

Originally Posted by sprockkets

You can't... oh **** it you can't comprehend it anyhow.

Originally Posted by jfanning

Who said I hate Apple? Wasn't me, I am a happy owner of a number of Apple products. Oh wait, it was you claiming I hated them as you have no argument and that's how things are done on AI.

I don't hate Apple, I just don't "love" them like you. They are just a company, I company that is just like every other company around, trying to make as much money as they can.

Originally Posted by SDW2001

You, sir, simply don't get it. All companies take inspiration from other products, from different categories of products, even from nature itself. Inspiration does not equal theft. Does Apple take design ideas from other companies? Of course they do. Everyone and every company on Earth does that in almost any medium. What Apple does is take that idea and design a sleek hardware product, couple it with the best software around, and add it's iconic brand name. This product becomes enormously successful. In turn, other companies copy the product.

You simply cannot compare the wholesale copying of Apple's products to how Apple got the idea for these products to begin with. It's absurd. Apple buys technology companies all the time. It partners with them. Then it does what apparently only Apple can do: They turn those ideas into the actual functioning product.

Anyone who looks at the history realizes there is no argument here. Samsung and others have blatantly copied the look and feel of Apple's products. Look at the comparisons and release dates. It's cut and dried.

Originally Posted by ulfoaf

Google invented the icon? The touchscreen? Neither was new in 2007, but it is pretty clear a LOT of phones suddenly started looking like the iPhone layout, larger touch screen, one button, icons looking like Apple's.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

You said you were going to put me on your ignore list. I guess we can't trust anything you say.

Originally Posted by Mac-sochist

Unlike you, I can distinguish between facts and tabloid gossip. Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care. Your position apparently is, because Steve Jobs is an assholewhich he may well be on a personal levelno one should buy Apple products, and this somehow makes them aesthetically and functionally undesirable. That's a bizarre attitude.

I've bought Hewlett-Packard products (in the past, before their quality went in the crapper) and David Packard was a founding member of the John Birch Society. That's much worse than anything your tabloid sources accuse Steve Jobs of.

Originally Posted by Mac-sochist

I don't "Love" any company. This is the puzzled reaction of someone who just doesn't get it. If you haven't noticed, Apple has been on a roll the last 12 years or so. They have peoplepeople with decision-making powerwho have a vision, and are dragging the rest of the tech world by the scruff of the neck into a better future.

Every once in a geological age this will happenan automaker will accidentally make a "car guy" CEO, for example. Then hang onto your hatfor a while. The bean-counters will ultimately prevail, but the ride is a lot of fun while it lasts.

By the way, just so you knowthe claim about all the Apple products you own, which may be true in your case, is what the paid shill usually leads with, and it causes everybody on this forum to tune out from everything else you say.

Originally Posted by jfanning

Why do you continue to make things up to defend your position?

Jobs signed court documents to say the kid couldn't be his. This is a fact, I fact that I really care about, but it is still a fact, an important fact as it proves you wrong.

Originally Posted by jfanning

What?

I don't care what you believe, I know I am telling the truth, and I know you are just a fool hiding behind a pseudonym, spouting rubbish.

Have fun with this, hopefully when you hit your teenage years you get better at it.

Originally Posted by MacRulez

You don't get it. There is only one company, one product line, one store! All other companies are either stupid or evil! Anyone who shops at any other store is just a loser! The only way they'll ever learn their place is if we Apple fans show them by breaking the glass in their store windows!

Posters like you don't last long 'round here, but I'm glad you showed up long enough to say what you said.