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post #41 of 92
Nice Sig, Harald
post #42 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
<strong>Those that are kind to cruel, are cruel to the kind. And vise-versa.


mika.

[ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: PC^KILLA ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have never been kind with terrorists. Oh yes i forgot : all arabs are terrorists
post #43 of 92
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Thats what neutrality is. Its surrender to evil.

I see it in two ways: either as simple political cowardness, which I think applies to you and the French in general, or simple indifference, which applies to most of the planet.

And btw, at great risk to being banned again, Ill say that to me, the Islamic ideology is not much different than that of Nazism. So to me, those that practice that ideology are Nazis. And yes, that would include most of the Arab population, whether they be active murders of Jews and Christians or not.


mika.
post #44 of 92
so..... those rumours leaking from apple about the colour (quicktime) iPod at MWSF and bootleg photos of motherboards and cases actually come from Palantirs?

this explains why some of those palantir posters are thereafter incapacitated by the power of Sauron's lawyers.

anybody calling dibs on Shelob? The Eagles?

will Motorola lay claim to the broken sword, in hopes that a G5 will slay the evil lord Gates, or are the ring and the sword best reserved for RDF usage?

can i be the white tree?

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and for those who've seen the new extended edition of Fellowship, is Tom Bombadil in the extra footage? can't find confirmation yea/nay.
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post #45 of 92
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The White Tree of Valinor?


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post #46 of 92
Ah i see, if you are not with me, you are against me.

And swiss people are evil : they are neutral.
At the beginning of WW2, US was evil (because neutral), but after pearl harbor, he became good. If US was a character should it be Boromir ?

Really this way of thinking is fascinating.
post #47 of 92
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The Swiss and the French and Swedes, etc., are political cowards that let others do the fighting for them. As far as Im concerned they were no better than the Hitler's formal allies.

One can even make a strong argument they were active allies of Hitler's. They supplied him with currency and with war machinery and facilities. Your precious Swiss were Hitlers bankers. The Swedes provided him Nuclear know how and heavy water. The French provided Hitler all that countrys natural resources, as well as their naval hardware and ports. Thats been documented.

As far as the US, she was NEVER neutral. Never. Maybe isolationalist, but never neutral! The U-boat sailors will attest to that.


mika.
post #48 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
<strong>The Swiss and the French and Swedes, etc., are political cowards that let others do the fighting for them. As far as Im concerned they were no better than the Hitler's formal allies.

One can even make a strong argument they were active allies of Hitler's. They supplied him with currency and with war machinery and facilities. Your precious Swiss were Hitlers bankers. The Swedes provided him Nuclear know how and heavy water. The French provided Hitler all that countrys natural resources, as well as their naval hardware and ports. Thats been documented.

As far as the US, she was NEVER neutral. Never. Maybe isolationalist, but never neutral! The U-boat sailors will attest to that.


mika.</strong><hr></blockquote>
i was waiting this answer and especially for US. You are wise Mika : never upset your biggest allie. Always try to find some support among some US members, in the name of the common ennemy. Be kind with people that may support you on those forums even in subjects dealing with others things than Middle east. Can you have a different advice than your supporters ? What do you think of creationism for example ? are you scared at the idear to annoy one of your supporter ?
Who speak of cowardness ?
post #49 of 92
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[quote]Originally posted by Powerdoc:
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i was waiting this answer and especially for US. You are wise Mika : never upset your biggest allie. Always try to find some support among some US members, in the name of the common ennemy. Be kind with people that may support you on those forums even in subjects dealing with others things than Middle east. Can you have a different advice than your supporters ? What do you think of creationism for example ? are you scared at the idear to annoy one of your supporter ?
Who speak of cowardness ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Frankly, I find them conversations about God rather boring. After reading Dostoevskys The Brothers Karamazov, and analyzing the political relationship between Dostoevskys writings to the Tsars regime, any subconscious ambivalence on the subject I had in me at that time pretty much vaporized.


But heres an excerpt of my thoughts on the subject:

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[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
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Ill echo the same.

My thoughts on the whole God thing in the Bible are that it was basically used as a gimmick to unite several disbanded groups into one unified force under one political umbrella. Its a gimmick that was common in that part of the world at that time. A nation was practically defined by the deity that it worshiped. It just so happened that the Israelites applied a little more intellectual rigor to their particular concept: a concept that was some thousands of years ahead of its rivals.


mika.</strong><hr></blockquote>


mika.
post #50 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by Powerdoc:
<strong>
i was waiting this answer and especially for US. You are wise Mika : never upset your biggest allie. Always try to find some support among some US members, in the name of the common ennemy. Be kind with people that may support you on those forums even in subjects dealing with others things than Middle east. Can you have a different advice than your supporters ? What do you think of creationism for example ? are you scared at the idear to annoy one of your supporter ?
Who speak of cowardness ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Is this really necesary to take the thread off course like this? Mika? Powerdoc?

There are plenty of other threads where this is the main topic...
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post #51 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
<strong>The Islamic ideology is not much different than that of Nazism. So to me, those that practice that ideology are Nazis. And yes, that would include most of the Arab population, whether they be active murders of Jews and Christians or not.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ban this aresehole. This is race hate.
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post #52 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:
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Is this really necesary to take the thread off course like this? Mika? Powerdoc?

There are plenty of other threads where this is the main topic... </strong><hr></blockquote>

I would agree had the thread not been started with the goal of sucking up (read lick the arse off of) to those lil' Mika likes and childish name calling of those that have dared contest his usual drivel (read fascist bull crap)
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post #53 of 92
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
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Ban this aresehole. This is race hate.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No its not.

Im speaking of an ideology. I hated Communism, but I love Russians and things Russian. But, youre too dense and stupid, and a sniveling Tom to understand that.


mika.
post #54 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
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No its not.

Im speaking of an ideology. I hated Communism, but I love Russians and things Russian. But, youre too dense and stupid, and a sniveling Tom to understand that.


mika.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think you should expect a friendly hello from your local neighborhood mod telling you that if you can't debate without name calling you shouldn't debate.

Harald, you too. Stop insulting arse holes.
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the Irish passion for freedom. If our deed has not
been sufficient to win freedom, then our children
will win it by a better deed.
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the Irish passion for freedom. If our deed has not
been sufficient to win freedom, then our children
will win it by a better deed.
Pádraig Pearse

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post #55 of 92
Sorry MacF ... I'm "dense" AND "stupid" (such harshness -- lower lip trembles) so I occasionally go too far.

I apologise to all all arseholes.
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post #56 of 92
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[quote]Originally posted by Harald:
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btw. In my book you don't even garner the respect of an ugly orc. You shall forever be nameless and without history.


mika.
post #57 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by curiousuburb:
<strong>and for those who've seen the new extended edition of Fellowship, is Tom Bombadil in the extra footage? can't find confirmation yea/nay.</strong><hr></blockquote>No Tom - they apparently never even had any plans for including him. But I did like the extended version. Lots of good new scenes: Galadriel's gifts, Elves leaving Middle Earth, Aragorn singing about Beren & Luthien, etc.

Every new scene, I thought: "I can't believe they cut that!"
post #58 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by macfenian:
<strong>

I would agree had the thread not been started with the goal of sucking up (read lick the arse off of) to those lil' Mika likes and childish name calling of those that have dared contest his usual drivel (read fascist bull crap)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who cares why he started it? It was a fun diversion from the other BS that we argue over day in and day out.
NoahJ
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post #59 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>No Tom - they apparently never even had any plans for including him. But I did like the extended version. Lots of good new scenes: Galadriel's gifts, Elves leaving Middle Earth, Aragorn singing about Beren & Luthien, etc.

Every new scene, I thought: "I can't believe they cut that!"</strong><hr></blockquote>

Tom's role was really rather small overall anyhow. I look forward to seeng the full version as well.
NoahJ
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post #60 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:
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Who cares why he started it? It was a fun diversion from the other BS that we argue over day in and day out.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have nothing against Nitpicking, but this go beyond : There's much more to that character than just cleverness.. The more one analyzes it, the more one realizes how true the character is.. (speaking of Grima, a spie and a betrayor).
Tolkien is fine, nitpicking is fine, but hidden insults are not.
post #61 of 92
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Statement withdrawn..
Sorry Doc. Personal attacks of that nature are uncalled for.

mika.

[ 11-22-2002: Message edited by: PC^KILLA ]</p>
post #62 of 92
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Shelob Bill Gates ?

mith.
post #63 of 92
Sigh, oh well, it was fun while it lasted...
NoahJ
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post #64 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
<strong>Not a spy, just a coward and a betrayer. Everyone pretty much knew where Grima was at. Same applies to you and to France.


mika.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Mika, a man is not defined by his country. Powerdoc is not france any more than France is powerdoc. Actions of the past define the nation as it was then, and actions of now define it as it is now. You obvioulsy have issues with France that run very deeply. I truly doubt that Powerdoc embodies those issues. Just because he lives in France and supports his nation does not make him responsible for all the actions of his nation any more than me living in the US and supporting my nation makes me responsible for slavery, the wiping out of the native americans, and so on.
NoahJ
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post #65 of 92
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True.

I'm just in a foul mood since all these terror attacks, and I might as well release it on pdoc than on others. The political leadership here are all CIA cronies. All bought and paid for.


mika.
post #66 of 92
Ents? Are there any Ents?

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post #67 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by Tulkas:
<strong>Ents? Are there any Ents?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Err...

Treebeard - Eugene
Aliases: Fangorn, Shepherd of the Trees, the Eldest

Ent. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
NoahJ
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post #68 of 92
Ah, I see why I'm Treebeard now...



<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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post #69 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by Eugene:
<strong>Ah, I see why I'm Treebeard now...

<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually, it is quite a nice thing to say overall. Ents were slow, deliberate thinkers that never got riled up over most anything. But if you managed to light their fuse you would have a fight on your hands that you did not want. Overall, a Good Thing.
NoahJ
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post #70 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:
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Err...

Treebeard - Eugene
Aliases: Fangorn, Shepherd of the Trees, the Eldest

Ent. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

should have been more specific..I meant in the extended version of the video. I assume not, as they would have been pretty impressive creations, I am sure, and they would have had at least some footage in the cimema release.

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post #71 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>No Tom - they apparently never even had any plans for including him. But I did like the extended version. Lots of good new scenes: Galadriel's gifts, Elves leaving Middle Earth, Aragorn singing about Beren & Luthien, etc.

Every new scene, I thought: "I can't believe they cut that!"</strong><hr></blockquote>

It is such a better movie with those additional scenes. I would love to see the 4 1/2 hour version Peter Jackson originally put together!
post #72 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:
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Tom's role was really rather small overall anyhow. I look forward to seeng the full version as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah, but not really. The sword that Merry gets from the Barrow Downs is crucial to him killing the Nazgul king: "So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it . . . No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."

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post #73 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by PC^KILLA:
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btw. In my book you don't even garner the respect of an ugly orc. You shall forever be nameless and without history.


mika.</strong><hr></blockquote>

There is a special edition of Lord of the Rings just for you? That would explain things as you seem to live in a little world of your own where you're always right.
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the Irish passion for freedom. If our deed has not
been sufficient to win freedom, then our children
will win it by a better deed.
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been sufficient to win freedom, then our children
will win it by a better deed.
Pádraig Pearse

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post #74 of 92


disclaimer: no offence meant, only humor...
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post #75 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by New:
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disclaimer: no offence meant, only humor... </strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know about the thread, but your image sure does. That was not humorous, it could have been, but you sir have crossed the line for me.
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post #76 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by NoahJ:
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I don't know about the thread, but your image sure does. That was not humorous, it could have been, but you sir have crossed the line for me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's OK for you to say, but you get be Samwise Ganges the honest, brave and blah blah blah.

New gets to be a weird slimy... thing.

And the thread does suck.
post #77 of 92
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[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah:
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That's OK for you to say, but you get be Samwise Ganges the honest, brave and blah blah blah.

New gets to be a weird slimy... thing.

And the thread does suck.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Seems like he's enjoying playing with his precious..

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post #78 of 92
[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah:
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That's OK for you to say, but you get be Samwise Ganges the honest, brave and blah blah blah.

New gets to be a weird slimy... thing.

And the thread does suck.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Gollum ends up being the one that actually destroys the One Ring of Power when Frodo falters at the end. So Gollum, while being a weird, slimy thing, does end up being quite important overall in the grand scheme of things.
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post #79 of 92
I just gotta say that Christopher Lee kicks ass and he did long before The Lord of the Rings.

Well, long before the movie anyway.
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post #80 of 92
mika as Gandalf . . . hahahahahaah

and, its funny, but as I started to read the list I naturally thought of you mika as Boromir . . . someone who's loyalty is so strong that it gets the better of him . .

as for me as Boromire, I can't quite figure it... naturally I always thought of myself as Elrond . . . .

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