Originally Posted by jragosta
I really wish you'd get your story straight.
We're talking about putting an additional device into an MBA. What does removing the ODD from the MBP have to do with that?
You keep ignoring the facts:
Started off talking about the MBP, which is the machine Id get. A MBA with a 3G card would be nice, too, but its smaller and therefore would need to come at the same time or after due to these factors, just like the need for a CULV processor and no backlit keyboard. So before you say its impossible for all notebooks first tell us why its impossible for the MBPs. Thats a fact.
1. Even if Apple included that slot, users would still have to carry a PCIe card - which is not significantly smaller than a USB card. There's no advantage.
Carry? You mean a installed card that weighs and ounce and takes up a fraction of the internal space is an issue when they are carrying their notebook? Seriously, Dude!
2. Not everyone wants 3G on their laptop
Nope, which is why I suggested mini-PCIe not something permanently installed, and clearly optional, just like in the iPad 2.. I dont even like the fact the MBAs have RAM installed on the logic board making it impossible to upgrade.
3. The device you're proposing takes up space. The MBA is very crowded inside - more crowded than most laptops.
Define that that crap! All laptops are crowded. Apples notebooks higher TDP components have more room for airflow but that doesnt mean its free
Its a strawman argument to suggest that there is no way to improve on the design, shrink or combine components or include something simply because they havent before. Just look at the 3G card in the iPad 2 over the 3G card in the original IPad. I think the 3G is first iPad is as big as the whole logical board in the iPad 2. If they incorporate the double-stacked silicon process they are using in their 2010+ iDevices then you gain a significant amount of space.
4. In addition to the space required for your card, there's also some lost space because of inefficiencies in packing. You also need to cut an extra (large) port in the side of the case. Even if you could make it fit (which isn't clear), it would weaken the case
Extra large part in the side of the case? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
5. The device (along with installation costs and design costs and costs for cutting another hole in the case) costs money. Since users still need an external card, why should Apple spend the money?
Hole in the case? External card? 4/20 was 3 days ago.
6. Whatever space is required would almost certainly come out of the battery size - which means a shorter run time and greater cost for all users. Why would Apple do that?
You made an assumption based on no evidence then posed a question as if its now fact. WTH?! Try to form a sound argument!
7. Apple knows a lot more about designing computers and computer markets than you do. Apple hasn't included it - so obviously Apple agrees that the advantages do not outweigh the disadvantages for any significant number of people.
They do, and more than you. I know about what Apple has done and can do because youve ignored the history of their internal design. You dont even know what a mini-PCIe card is. You keep thinking its external. I suggested that Apple, the largest procurer of NAND and designer of their own boards, could lose the casing around SSDs to make their own using mini-PCIe physcial connector. Guess what?! I bet you said, "Apple hasn't included it - so obviously Apple agrees that the advantages do not outweigh the disadvantages for any significant number of people."
You're proposing a significant change. It is up to you to provide a justification as to why that change makes sense. So far, you haven't done that. All you've provide is "I want" and "I'm going to ignore all the disadvantages because their inconvenient to what I want".
I dont base technical feasibility on what I desire. I have no emotion invested in science(/technology or my investments. It makes me successful. Ive stated I dont need it, even in this thread I suggested it with Personal Hotpot on app phones now increasing in popularity the need fades.
I doubt that Id even pay the $130 for the factory installation even if it were available, but it is a long sought feature and the size has recently because smaller and with their iPad 2 having a standard design (sans the surface-mounted ribbon) and no fear of 18 SKUS the needles pulls a little more toward that feasibility.
PS: I would like a GPS chip in my MBP for Find My Mac at that core OS level. But I guess youl say that a GPS chip is impossible because its not already included.