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A new report claims recent rumors of a minor revision to Apple's next-generation iPhone are inaccurate, positing instead that Apple will completely redesign the handset to possibly include a "gesture area" home button and a 3.7-inch edge-to-edge screen [Update: This report has since been deemed inaccurate].

In a highly speculative report, Joshua Topolsky of This is my next claimed Friday that sources have told him that the iPhone 5 will "radically change." The report comes as a follow-up to a previous report that he wrote while serving as Editor in Chief at technology blog Engadget.

It should be noted, however, that Topolsky's sources should be taken with a grain of salt, as his prior report claimed that the iPad 2 would launch in April with a "super high resolution" display, SD slot and dual mode GSM and CDMA 3G radios. Prior to the launch of the iPad 2, Engadget changed its predictions, citing engineering issues that led Apple to make last-minute changes to the device.

Update: In addition to the initial skepticism surrounding this report, at least one trusted publication has gone on record to state that the claims made by Topolsky are not true.

According to Friday's report, the home button on the iPhone 5 will be enlarged and will perform double duty as a "gesture area." Sources also indicated that Apple is doing very "interesting things" with bonded glass technology and could push the edges of the screen all the way out to the edge, moving the earpiece and sensors "behind the screen itself."

The report also claimed that Apple would increase the iPhone screen size from its current 3.5-inch display to a 3.7-inch one, while keeping the current resolution. The change would reduce the device's pixel density from 326 pixels-per-inch to 312ppi, though it would still remain above the 300ppi "sweet spot" that Apple uses to claim "Retina Display" technology.

"Our sources say the new model (or at least one of the new designs in testing) looks more like the iPod touch than the iPhone 4. The phone will be thinner than the iPhone 4, and may have a teardrop shape which goes from thick to thin (something along the lines of the MacBook Air profile)," Topolsky wrote.

Topolsky also claimed that art he had been shown seemed to indicate "some form of inductive or touch charging," but cautioned that sources were unable to confirm whether Apple was planning the feature. He speculated that a "swipe area" seen in drawings could be for a Near Field Communication sensor and reiterated his prior claim that the iPhone 5 will take advantage of Qualcomm's dual GSM/ CDMA Gobi chipset to make the device a "world phone."

The report included a mockup based on a sketch supplied by a source. A side view of the mockup depicts the tapered "teardrop shape."



Topolsky himself couched the report as unverified. "Keep in mind that this info isnt fact were getting lots of threads from lots of places and trying to make sense of the noise," he said. "The versions of devices our sources are seeing could be design prototypes and not production-ready phones."

It should also be noted that the report goes against the grain of other recent reports. Numerous reports have suggested lately that the iPhone 5 has been pushed back to a fall release and will feature only "slight modifications," such as the inclusion of the A5 processor and an 8 megapixel rear camera.

For instance, Concord Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, whose supplier sources have been mostly accurate as of late, indicated earlier this week that the iPhone 5 will not feature an all-new-design.
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I really really like this mockup. Hopefully that's iPhone 5...
If it was me, I would even go as far as getting rid of the home button.
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I found one of these in a bar the other day.
It's real.
post #4 of 114
My aunt heard at bingo that this rumor is true.
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post #5 of 114
After enough rumors I've come to the conclusion (obvious) that Apple makes many prototypes

And then different people see bits of variants and get all mouthy about knowing something
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Larger Screen = Success

Smudge-Prone Polished Metal Back = Fail!
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Larger Screen = Success

Because more than 50% of the entire handset revenue is a such a failure.

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Smudge-Prone Polished Metal Back = Fail!

How many hundreds of millions of iPod Classics, Nanos and Touches have been sold with polished backs. Such a failure these are to have a natural monopoly of the PMP market.
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Larger Screen = Success

Smudge-Prone Polished Metal Back = Fail!

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post #9 of 114
Its outdated before its even out.

Android rules.
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Let's apply Occam's Razor.

The speaker and mic are "behind the glass"
It looks more like an iPod touch.

So.... this is probably the next iPod touch.
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Its outdated before its even out.

Android rules.

OS baiter ... but I'll bite.

The HARDWARE is what this story is all about, but you say it's already outdated against an OS (software)? Are you human?
post #12 of 114
I'd bet dollars to donuts thats fake. All the other rumors were pointing to a device that looks like the 4, with only internal upgrades a la 3GS. Plus, that render looks thinner than the Touch, no way the phone would be that thin, and it doesn't look apple-ish with so little side bezel.
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Because more than 50% of the entire handset revenue is a such a failure.


How many hundreds of millions of iPod Classics, Nanos and Touches have been sold with polished backs. Such a failure these are to have a natural monopoly of the PMP market.

Bud, my ipod touch's back looked like crap on the second day. "Shiny" is great if it stayed that way without needing to leave the protective plastic on the back.
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I wish Apple maintains the same form actor of iPhone 4 for iPhone 5. Just a wish. It is classy.
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Seems unlikely, since more chips are going inside (e.g. NFC), but given the antenna problems with the iPhone 4, I wouldn't be surprised if the form factor goes back to the 3/3GS style. That said, since NFC will be inside, there's no way the back will be metal.
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post #16 of 114
Looks like a fake. I doubt the battery and 8MP camera would fit in a form like this. I like the enlarged home button idea though. Swiping it to the left will brick Droids and their owners in a 50 yard circumference useless. Oh wait...
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Bud, my ipod touch's back looked like crap on the second day. "Shiny" is great if it stayed that way without needing to leave the protective plastic on the back.

There are a few possibilities here...

One, you derive too much identity from your phone/media player.
Two, you are sticken with OCD

I also suggest you might want to use actually your phone/media player, that way you will be looking at the front not the back. The amount of times I look at the back of my phone over a year would be measured in single digits.
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Bud, my ipod touch's back looked like crap on the second day. "Shiny" is great if it stayed that way without needing to leave the protective plastic on the back.

Try washing your hands after you go to the bathroom. That seems to work for me. My iPod is just fine.
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OS baiter ... but I'll bite.

The HARDWARE is what this story is all about, but you say it's already outdated against an OS (software)? Are you human?

It depends whether or not you consider trolls human.

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post #20 of 114
I'm all for a larger screen and improving the technology, but I don't believe this mockup. What would be the point of the teardrop shape?

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post #21 of 114
This could be the iPhone 5 --- sometime in Q2 2012. We'll get a year of the iPhone 4S before that.

And with that kind of lead time, I'm sure the design is not locked in. This is at best informed speculation.
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It makes sense that it will be a significant redesign. apple may still be ahead--but its lead is narrowing. so while these 'deets' may be wrong (they usually are, arent they), it will certainly be a new design. to add a further reason, the world may have stopped talking about antenna-gate, but there is still a stigma to many, thus apple will want a new design to get rid of any lingering doubts.
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Let's apply Occam's Razor.

The speaker and mic are "behind the glass"
It looks more like an iPod touch.

So.... this is probably the next iPod touch.

I have to agree. Looks like ipod touch buttons, but iphone front (speaker, 3g logo) of course non-contract 3g on a touch would be pretty sweet! Put the speaker in for skype, vonage, etc, oh yeah!
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I would definitely welcome a slightly larger screen, but the form factor as shown in the mockup would be a real step backward in my opinion.

The tapered form factor, when lying on a desk, might be OK in portrait orientation but would be very awkward when in landscape as it would be tilted to one side.

The iPhone 4 form factor has a sophisticated, timeless integrity... I really hope they don't mess with it too much.
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Polished metal back on a phone? No thanks. My iPod touch looks like crap as it is.

And the multi-touch gestures sound interesting. But why not just utilize the touch screen itself? It seems a bit unnecessary. I'd like to see what they come up with.
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I hope the 3.7" part isn't true. I was really, really looking forward to the iPhone and iPod touch stepping up to 4" screens. If anything I want them to go bigger, to 4.3 inches.
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That mockup looks ugly and out of proportions.
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I wish Apple maintains the same form actor of iPhone 4 for iPhone 5. Just a wish. It is classy.

They will. Unless the rumor mill goes nuts with lots of dodgy images of various 'body parts' appeveiny over the next few weeks, that is. Personally I think ip5 will look much the same as ip4. Ip6 will mark a bigger change in the same way it took 2 generations for the 3G to radically change.
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I really really like this mockup. .

I'm okay with everything but the whole 'teardrop' part. It looks horrid to me.
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This design has too many flaws to be conceivable.

1. Razor edge at bottom doesn't lend itself to having a dock connector. Will Apple implement a new connector, not likely yet as it would completely invalidate millions of accessories and automotive interfaces that have adopted the iPod/iPhone/iPad standard connection.

2. Thinner than the iPhone 4 while containing the A5 and NFC. No chance. The A5 is larger in physical size than the A4 making a thinner design near impossible.

3. Edge-to-edge screen would make most cases obstruct the screen making it very frustrating to use. Most cases have a raised edge to protect the screen should the phone be on its face.

4. Glossy metal back. Fingerprint and scratch city. Not so much a flaw but I definitely would hate this. My iPod classic looked like crap on the back. If Apple does this, let's hope it's the matte aluminum used on the MacBooks and iPad.
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Larger Screen = Success

Smudge-Prone Polished Metal Back = Fail!

How is your Xoom tablet? Did you get the G4 upgrade already? And, did you sell your original iPad?

CGC
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Remember the unfavorable reactions when the iPhone 4 was first revealed. Now the iPhone 4 is BEST PHONE EVAR.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=900333
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My bet is that rumor would be partly correct, but many would be off base, judging from prior record. One of those that may not come true is the multitouch gesture for the home button. It is just too small and redundant with the multitouch screen functionalities.

What is most likely to happen during 2011 to early 2012:
  1. The antenna will be redesigned
  2. The glass back will be replaced, most likely metallic black, and silver white but not shinny?
  3. The first two would also cause a redesign of the enclosing body, back to more curvy back like the iPad2 not the MBA
  4. The screen resolution will be the same
  5. More powerful processors
  6. iOS5 upgrade
  7. thinner but only very slightly?
  8. improved battery life but only slightly
  9. Further camera sensors upgrades and/or functionalities
  10. Same prices, the current iPhone 4 will be reduced in price to $99 for the basic
  11. improved features and functionalities in conjunction with NC facility activation
  12. No 4G (more likely in 2012, if not later)

Maybe to less likely
  1. Apple may expand the CDMA iPhone to other countries
  2. Improved enterprise functionalities and features
  3. Because of the popularity of the $49 3Gs, Apple may decide to retain this as the "affordable iPhone" just like the affordable white MacBook. This would be less likely but possible.

Desirabe but less likely?
  1. Universal iPhone?
  2. solar power features to extend battery life (maybe a future feature)

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slightly larger screen (edge to edge) within the same external dimensions would be really terrific. Probably my single biggest wish for the iPhone right now. I think it would make a decent difference to the browsing experience in particular.

The thing i'm a bit disappointed to not be hearing any rumours about is a touch sensitive rear panel. I would just love to be able to scroll vertically thru lists using my index finger on the rear of the phone so that my view of the screen is unobstructed.

may be one day!
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post #35 of 114
I left my comment on MacRumors and the taper is a bad engineering design for an already thin product which is still a rugged design, not to mention what has already been mentioned regarding venting, larger chip A5 and much more.

The only possible change is the pixel density of the current design, improved antenna design and the rest is internal, with a possibility of a gestures button.
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I don't doubt Apple will redesign the iPhone with some features like a larger screen. However, it isn't going to be with the next refresh. I say that because it wouldn't make sense that Apple release the white iPhone now, just to completely redesign the phone a few months later.

Also, Apple starts working on redesigns years before they are released.
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Let's apply Occam's Razor.

The speaker and mic are "behind the glass"
It looks more like an iPod touch.

So.... this is probably the next iPod touch.

to carry it further...

The touch screen is not going to be a different size than the phone. Thus the new touch still has a 3.5" screen, but with an even smaller bezel and thinner body because Lord knows Apple's obsession with thin knows no bounds.

Doesn't really matter to me. I have a touch. It's OK, but I'll never buy another device that loses its network connection the moment I step out of the house or office. iPad 3G data can be purchased as necessary at reasonable cost. That's what I want in a portable information device.

Apple please make your next new iDevice a cross between the touch and iPad: small enough to go everywhere, but big enough to have decent battery life with occasional 3G use. 5-6" screen should do the trick. No phone capability. I want data not expensive minutes. Until then, as they say on Dragon's Den and Shark Tank, "I'm out".
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I like the concept of the multitouch home button and the edge-to-edge screen looks nice as well but I just can't get over that tear drop profile. I drop my iPhone on an almost daily basis and this design just seems like I would break it almost instantly. I really hope this is a fake.
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Apple would never release an iPhone that looks like the sketch provided. However it could be the next gem touch prototype design. As we have seen from case leaks it seems like apple is sticking to the current design, while making minor changes. I tend to believe that more because iPhone 4 was a big redesign and doing it again just does not sound like a good idea.

Oh and capacitive or touch button is the dumbest idea ever, and I hope it never happen. Even with a physical button I sometimes quit out of apps inadvertently. With a soft button it will happen more often and would be annoying.
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I'm all for a larger screen and improving the technology, but I don't believe this mockup. What would be the point of the teardrop shape?

Slip in the pocket easily. I like that.
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