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Leaked photos supposedly of a prototype iPhone indicate that Apple may be testing the smartphone on the T-Mobile USA network, a new report claims.

BGR published on Saturday a series of photos allegedly of a white iPhone prototype "with T-Mobile USA 3G bands." The device appears to be code-named as N94, just two numbers up from the Verizon iPhone 4, which was reportedly called N92.

According to the report, the prototype runs a test version of Apple's iOS that resembles that of another prototype discovered in a video earlier this week. The fact that the N94 device has Apple test apps scubas Radar and the company's employee directory app may also serve to substantiate its authenticity.

The front of the prototype looks "a little different" from recent leaked photos of the retail white iPhone 4. "Specifically, the proximity sensor has changed on the retail version," the report noted. On Friday, photos of an official retail white iPhone 4 from Vodafone U.K. emerged, though Vodafone has reportedly halted sales of the device until next week.

The lock screen of the prototype device contains the message: "Confidential and Proprietary. If Found, please contact +1 408", but the rest of the number has been whited out in the photos.





The report goes on to speculate that Apple is "just testing the new T-Mobile-friendly radio with its current iPhone 4 hardware, possibly in preparation for integration in a future device. Its also entirely possible the internals on this iPhone prototype are being disguised in an iPhone 4 shell, though we doubt it."

BGR has a consistent track record with regards to wireless carrier announcements, though some of its Apple-related predictions have been off.





AT&T announced last month a $39 billion deal to acquire T-Mobile USA from parent company Deutsche Telekom. A subsequent FAQ from T-Mobile suggested that the carrier would hold off on offering the iPhone until at least after the acquisition is completed in "approximately 12 months"

A T-Mobile FAQ regarding last month's announcement of AT&T's $39 billion acquisition of T-Mobile USA explained that T-Mobile does not yet carry the iPhone and will remain independent for up to a year. According to one official at the Federal Communications Commission, AT&T faces a "steep climb" ahead of it to obtain approval for the deal, which would make AT&T the largest wireless provider in the U.S by a large margin.

Rival Sprint has officially spoken out in opposition of the acquisition, claiming it would "harm consumers and harm competition."

The iPhone 5 has been the subject of conflicting rumors recently. Several reports have suggested that Apple's so-called iPhone 5 will receive a faster processor and an upgraded camera with little to no changes to its form factor. The device is also reportedly scheduled for a fall release.

One report alleged yesterday that Apple's next iPhone will see a "major redesign" that would include a gesture-enabled home button, edge-to-edge screen and a "teardrop" shape. However, at least one publication is reporting that its own sources have declared the report untrue.
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Apple seems to be getting sloppy with things slipping through the cracks lately...


Or they're done on purpose to generate buzz.
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also statements that some developers/ gamers have gotten a juiced iphone 4 with the ipad A5 chip
well maybe june will come with an a5 based iphone 4s and the iphone 6 will be full redesign
and we still get our new phone in june makes much sense
why give devs a juiced phone now, if june isn't launch date, also if same "box" different innards
then we wouldn't get the typical "leaks"
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  1. Yes, that’s an orientation lock icon in the Menu Bar and current builds of the iPhone have that option. (I know there will people wondering about it)

  2. I can see the need for testing the 1700MHz spectrum and compatible device for T-Mobile USA’s network, but I don’t see why a T-Mobile USA-only device would have to be made. The iPhone 4 has quad-band GSM that works with T-Mobile USA and penta-band UMTS that does not. They are only utilizing four of the five bands.

    Couldn’t they just change out the one unused radio and update the baseband and OS to reflect the change or does that 1700MHz (AWS) band need to be more separate from the other bands and have a different antenna design? I don’t know a technical reason so I can’t imagine Apple creating this phone solely for T-Mobile USA’s customers.

    Note: Band, spectrum and radio are synonymous here.

  3. That white looks off to me. It looks more like the aftermarket panels though it could just be the photo or my display.


PS: @ Josh Ong, this article isn’t showing up on the main page and the number of posts per article hasn’t updated for most of the day.
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This is good news. There was little reason for T-Mobile to not have the iPhone. Outside of corporate politics. Apple likely wanted Verizon to have the iPhone for a good while before they added anyone else. That would leave Sprint as the last standing.


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That white looks off to me. It looks more like the aftermarket panels though it could just be the photo or my display.

Looks like the white balance of the picture is off to me.
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Looks real to me. I think there is no reason why T-Mobile shouldn't get the iPhone since AT&T lost exclusivity. I am hoping the next iPhone will be available on all carriers.
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Looks real to me. I think there is no reason why T-Mobile shouldn't get the iPhone since AT&T lost exclusivity. I am hoping the next iPhone will be available on all carriers.

I suspect that Apple was testing a T-Mobile compat iphone before ATT ever tried to buy it out. Simply because there's no way they are going to be able to quickly change over all those towers or want to when LTE is the new game to be supporting.

Also, that photo is either legit or a very good photoshop. That 'switchboard' app is an Apple thing. I've seen it on the ipads and stuff they use in the stores. I actually asked a sales guy about it and said it was written by Apple for the stores use.
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That white looks off to me. It looks more like the aftermarket panels though it could just be the photo or my display.

I have an aftermarket white iPhone 4 refit after a shattered front glass experience. I wondered if it was as white as intended.

Sitting next to our white ipad2 you can't tell the difference.
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If true, T-Mobile USA might have kept this from AT&T! Guess AT&T was hoping to acquire them before their value went up from the iPhone boost

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if true, i bet it won't do 4G. there's always something missing
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if true, i bet it won't do 4G. there's always something missing

But T-Mobile's "4G" is just HSPA+

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The thing about the photos that seems suspicious to me is that the white that obscures the phone numbers looks like it was done in the software rather than on the photo. If you were just trying to block out the number on the pictures, would you really bother to find a bluish white that would match the bluish tint of the rest of the display? It makes me think that they created that whole part of the picture at the same time.
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I hope this is true. I am using an iPhone 3GS on T-Mobile now. I'd like to go iPhone 4, but I hate AT&T. This would give many people a chance to take advantage of T-Mobile's better plans (assuming they don't get changed for the iPhone).
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Good. This proves At&T and T-Mobile merger will be approved. And T-Mobile customers will stop being left out of the iPhone bonanza.
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Looks like the white balance of the picture is off to me.

You can see that the WB is off, but it looks really flat like it is painted. Even the normal stainless frame looks painted.

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While the next version of the iPhone will support what ATT and T-Mobile call 4G (3GPP HSPA+), iPhone buyers should beware: since ATT began selling the iPhone 3G ATT has made NO warranties regarding iPhone data download speeds, that practice was continued with the iPhone 4, and that practice should be expected for the next generation iPhone even if it operates on what ATT refers to as a 4G network.

ATT advertised iPhone 3G as having speeds up to 1.4 mb/s, while the iPhone 3G was capable of 3.6 mb/s, but actual data download speeds were far less than 1 mb/s (and I believe less than half of ATT's stated limit).

iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 are both capable of 7.2 mb/s, but actual data download speeds for ATT iPhone subscribers since 2009 have been closer to 1.6 mb/s at most for most 3GS (and I believe close to that for iPhone 4).

Extrapolating from ATT's demonstrated data speeds for the iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4 models, and considering the technical limitations of the current roll out of ATT's HSPA+ network, it seems to me that ATT will continue to make no representations on iPhone data download speeds, that they will refer to their network as 4G, and that next generation ATT iPhone subscribers will be limited to data download speeds less than 7 mb/s.

Additionally, most ATT next generation iPhone subscribers may experience data download speeds far less than 7 mb/s due to network congestion, especially if next generation iPhone sales are as strong as iPhone 4 sales have been for ATT.

Insetad of alleging that ATT is willfully capping speeds on iphones running on its HSPA network and will do the same on their HSPA+ network, I will refer to what is actually occuring as rationing.

Rationing, is a product of excessive demand for limited resources, while capping is a product of purposeful deprivation of resources in the face of plenty of supply for actual demand, IMO.

To put this in perspective, iPhone 2 and 3 model ATT subscribers provided ATT with the money to build out HSPA with speeds up to 7.2 mb/s, but were rationed with data download speeds less than half of Apple's iPhone Data download capability of 3.6 mb/s.

iPhone 3GS and 4 model ATT subscribers provided ATT with the money to build out HSPA+ with speeds up to 21 mb/s, but were rationed with data download less than a quarter of Apple's iPhone 3GS and 4 model data download capability of 7.2 mb/s.

Next generation iPhone ATT subscribers will provide ATT with the money to build out first revolution LTE with data download speeds of up to 100 mb/s, but will be rationed with data download speeds less than a quarter of Apple's iPhone "5" capability of 21 mb/s.

A subsequent generation of iPhone ATT subscribers will provide ATT with the money to build out second revolution LTE with data download speeds of up to 200 mb/s, but will be rationed with data download speeds less that a quarter of Apple's iPhone "6" capability of 100 mb/s.

So on and so forth.
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The thing about the photos that seems suspicious to me is that the white that obscures the phone numbers looks like it was done in the software rather than on the photo. If you were just trying to block out the number on the pictures, would you really bother to find a bluish white that would match the bluish tint of the rest of the display? It makes me think that they created that whole part of the picture at the same time.

It is definitely done after the photo was taken using photo editing software. There is no gradient, reflections or anti aliasing and it partially overlaps the bottom edge. They probably just used the eyedropper to select the same color, but absolutely not part of the display. The text, on the other hand, has the classic Xcode drop shadow, so that part looks authentic.

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While the next version of the iPhone will support what ATT and T-Mobile call 4G (3GPP HSPA+), iPhone buyers should beware: since ATT began selling the iPhone 3G ATT has made NO warranties regarding iPhone data download speeds, that practice was continued with the iPhone 4, and that practice should be expected for the next generation iPhone even if it operates on what ATT refers to as a 4G network.

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1) I believe the term is guarantee, not warranty.

2) No carrier can guarantee that you'll get high data rates. There are too many factors involved. All they can do is guarantee their HW's capabilities. Take a car as an example. An automaker can guarantee your car an travel x-speed and a road can say cars can travel y-speed, but that doesn't mean that will possible to achieve in traffic.
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Good. This proves At&T and T-Mobile merger will be approved. And T-Mobile customers will stop being left out of the iPhone bonanza.

I don't think it proves anything. If anything, I'd think the merger would lessen the need for a T-Mobile USA iPhone if the rumors of AT&T using them as a budget network while gutting their 1700MHz spectrum for more LTE bandwidth is true.
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How does this prove that the T-Mobile and AT&T merger will be approved? Before the announcement of a potential merger, T-Mobile and Apple were likely working on a deal. As a T-Mobile customer, I hope the deal is not approved and the iPhone still comes to T-Mobile.

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Good. This proves At&T and T-Mobile merger will be approved. And T-Mobile customers will stop being left out of the iPhone bonanza.
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I'm hopeing this is true but anybody think this could have been jailbroken and used the anycarrier app from cydia to change At&t to Tmobile. The 3G will still be present though the name has changed.
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How does this prove that the T-Mobile and AT&T merger will be approved? Before the announcement of a potential merger, T-Mobile and Apple were likely working on a deal. As a T-Mobile customer, I hope the deal is not approved and the iPhone still comes to T-Mobile.

+1 to that
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Good. This proves At&T and T-Mobile merger will be approved. And T-Mobile customers will stop being left out of the iPhone bonanza.

Actually it doesn't prove anything. In fact, until the merger is approved and executed which could take more than a year. T-Mobile has to operate as an independent company. T-mobile / AT&T will most likely have subscriber retention clauses in the buy / sell agreement in order to justify the price they have agreed on. That means that until the deal is done T-Mobile still has to compete with AT&T for customers and part of that may include getting the iPhone. If you are a T-Mobile investor or shareholder that worst thing T-mobile could do is roll over and do what ever AT&T asks or not continue on their business plan. If the deal is rejected and sales are flat then the company will be a year or more behind in the marketplace and in no position to compete and may likely have to take a less than steller offer from Sprint.
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1) I believe the term is guarantee, not warranty.

No, warranty/warranties is perfectly correct.

Helps if you understand what words mean rather than just where they are used.
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1) I believe the term is guarantee, not warranty.

2) No carrier can guarantee that you'll get high data rates. There are too many factors involved. All they can do is guarantee their HW's capabilities. Take a car as an example. An automaker can guarantee your car an travel x-speed and a road can say cars can travel y-speed, but that doesn't mean that will possible to achieve in traffic.


Not true. Service Providers have offered SLAs for years that guarantee a minimum amount of bandwidth and a certain level annual uptime. Wireless carries don't do this with non-fixed and nomadic services but are quite capable if they are willing to publish realistic coverage maps. What carries have done is trade QoS for the ability to market larger coverage areas where you may get unreliable service on the fringes or in pockets and valleys. Well planned an optimized wireless networks are very predicable if they are operated within their design parameters. It's when carriers cut corners and try to stretch coverage or try to deploy new technologies on existing towers that were placed and optimized for a different wireless technology they have issues. But to address your statement if they thought consumers would pay the extra price they can and would offer SLAs.
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How does this prove that the T-Mobile and AT&T merger will be approved? Before the announcement of a potential merger, T-Mobile and Apple were likely working on a deal. As a T-Mobile customer, I hope the deal is not approved and the iPhone still comes to T-Mobile.

Right, it does not prove anything.
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Yay! Screw AT&T! As good as they've been to me..t mobile has a faster network and cheaper rates.
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Right, it does not prove anything.

If anything, it knocks out one of the main arguments for the merger, which was that T-Mobile suffered from a lack of iPhone.

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If anything, it knocks out one of the main arguments for the merger, which was that T-Mobile suffered from a lack of iPhone.

I personally hope the merger does not go through. I have my own opinions but T-Mobile service and pricing are very good. I would really like to have an iPhone with a decent data and voice plan for under $100.
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It will not help T-mobile USA enough to get the iphone.

1. The iPhone is no longer THE IPHONE. now their are many options. You don't need an iPhone to have the best smartphone. The importance of the iPhone has been really went down.

2. Everyone who wanted an iPhone on T-mobile left already. Many of those customers are not going to comeback after selling their current phone cancellation agreement just to be on T-Mo.

3. Android and the large number of other smartphone OS out there. Sure a lot of them will likely switch to the iPhone. But notice current t-mo customers getting new handsets does northing for T-mo in the long run. T-mobile needs customers not phone sales the iPhone will only give them phone sells.

2 or 3 years ago the iPhone could have changed t-mo and mad it a much larger company. But now as the iPhone is about to turn 5 it is no longer a big deal. We are already used to it. It has lost its new phone smell. I love T-mo to death but their is little they can do. The iPhone will not help much. They need it just like a human needs to be in a relationship.
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Apple seems to be getting sloppy with things slipping through the cracks lately...


Or they're done on purpose to generate buzz.

I'm pretty sure the latter is the case. Apple has found it increasingly difficult to keep its suppliers and manufacturers quiet on new products, and I believe they are taking an "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach and starting conflicting rumors to confuse the blogosphere.
So far I'm buying the updated hardware (A5, 8MP camera & possibly NFC) and no major cosmetic changes. These just make the most sense so far. The pending release of the white iPhones has me wondering if these may have some updated innards as well. It would be an odd move, but Apple is good at that.
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No, not T-Mobile, you idiots! Sprint! Sprint, you hear me?!
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It will not help T-mobile USA enough to get the iphone.

1. The iPhone is no longer THE IPHONE. now their are many options. You don't need an iPhone to have the best smartphone. The importance of the iPhone has been really went down.

2. Everyone who wanted an iPhone on T-mobile left already. Many of those customers are not going to comeback after selling their current phone cancellation agreement just to be on T-Mo.

3. Android and the large number of other smartphone OS out there. Sure a lot of them will likely switch to the iPhone. But notice current t-mo customers getting new handsets does northing for T-mo in the long run. T-mobile needs customers not phone sales the iPhone will only give them phone sells.

2 or 3 years ago the iPhone could have changed t-mo and mad it a much larger company. But now as the iPhone is about to turn 5 it is no longer a big deal. We are already used to it. It has lost its new phone smell. I love T-mo to death but their is little they can do. The iPhone will not help much. They need it just like a human needs to be in a relationship.

The IPhone remains the top hardware sold by any carrier that carries it. Verizon sold 2.2 M in < 2 months, and that's a phone that has been around for > 7 months. Imagine what they would have sold if it was a new version. So is it important? You betcha. T-Mobile may be timing it just right. They will have massive numbers if iPhone5 is co-launched on their network. But I wonder if AT&T will allow this to happen.
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I've been running my 3G on T-Mobile for a month or two now. It uses their Edge network, so it's not blazingly fast, but it works fine. My main use is with the Square credit card service.

The guy at the T-Mobile store didn't bat an eyelash when I asked for a SIM card for the iPhone, and said they had a fair number of iPhone users. I got a $30/month no-contract deal.
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The IPhone remains the top hardware sold by any carrier that carries it. Verizon sold 2.2 M in < 2 months, and that's a phone that has been around for > 7 months. Imagine what they would have sold if it was a new version. So is it important? You betcha. T-Mobile may be timing it just right. They will have massive numbers if iPhone5 is co-launched on their network. But I wonder if AT&T will allow this to happen.

I never said it will not sell. I said it won't do T-mo any good in the long run. Carriers seek new Subscriptions and phone companies seek out sales. This would be great for Apple for T-mobile its not really that big of a deal. They would have sold a phone no matter what, now it just happens to be an iPhone.
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I doubt that is a jailbroken iphone, there is one app on there that leads me to believe thing is an internal Apple prototype, if you notice the phone as an app called Radar with an aardvark as the icon this is Apples internal bug tracking system, I do not believe this is found outside of Apple, they may allow developers access to the system but I am note sure if they have direct access to Radar.
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Any iPhone on T-mo would be a miracle. That T-mo is going to be 'absorbed' into AT&T... is not.

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