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post #41 of 116
I have a case for my iphone4, but I hardly ever use it. I like the smallness, look and feel of the iphone4 too much to cover it up with a case. I baby it just enough that its still in near-mint condition. I feel like my 1st gen iphone was worse than the 4 at getting scratches and damage, but I didn't care there either, and its all scratched to hell (on the back, the front glass is still fine). I really wouldn't have it any other way, physical wear and tear on a cell phone is normal.
post #42 of 116
If I was buying an iPhone today, I'd definitely get the white one. Their resale value should be a bit higher because there isn't going to be nearly as many of them as the black model.
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Dont pretend to use science to hide behind your bigotry and hate.

I don't hate women. Women are awesome and I get along great with females. I have more female friends than male. I also treat women a whole lot better than your rapper heroes do.
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OMG, does anybody even care about the white iPhone anymore? Who cares what color it is? You put it in a case anyways.

I've never bought a case for any of my mobile devices, and only one has ever broke (read: suffered minor cosmetic damage, namely a hairline fracture aproximately 2mm long from the corner of the dock connecter outwards).
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really?

Ya, really.

I mean do u *really* think Apple operates on the fly? They just feel like throwing out the White i4 at the *supposed* end of it's cycle? On the *apparent* heals of i5? BS. The white iPhone was held back to fill a void, no other reason.

I think it's proven as sales on the i4 continue to ACCELERATE even in the midst of countless posters *claiming* the i4 was old even when Verizon launched. What's the difference?

Bottom line - RESEARCH dictates decisions. Clearly their is DEMAND for ALL WHITE Apple products. Doh. To say otherwise is lame and clearly uninformed. Let's see. White MacBooks, iPods, iPads, and gee iPhones.

Small thinkers here still *think* Apple *thinks* small. Clearly they KNOW what they're doing. And this white iPhone release is clearly part of a bigger picture. No different than the delay in i5 to reach parity with it's resellers. Why not try to sell one iPhone for all networks that will eliminate a costly distribution and technical nightmare? Yea Apple is smart, smarter than most.
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Ya, really.

I mean do u *really* think Apple operates on the fly? They just feel like throwing out the White i4 at the *supposed* end of it's cycle? On the *apparent* heals of i5? BS. The white iPhone was held back to fill a void, no other reason.

The problem with your summation is you’ve ignored that Apple DID announce the white iPhone last year, that Apple DID say it will be shipping at a certain time, that Apple DID have the white iPhone on their website as coming soon for many months. You can’t have it both ways.

If Apple is incapable of ever having production issue then your entire rationale is thrown out the window unless you want to argue that it was some sort of rouse to make Apple look incompetent and keep certain customers from buying a white iPhone for 10 months. Good luck with that.

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Bottom line - RESEARCH dictates decisions. Clearly their is DEMAND for ALL WHITE Apple products. Doh. To say otherwise is lame and clearly uninformed. Let's see. White MacBooks, iPods, iPads, and gee iPhones.

So they choose not to sell the white iPhone for 10 months to increase sales?

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Why not try to sell one iPhone for all networks that will eliminate a costly distribution and technical nightmare? Yea Apple is smart, smarter than most.

Talk about small thinkers. It doesn’t sounds like you’ve considered any of the downsides to such an endeavor? Also note the iPad has an exceptional amount of additional internal space and yet Apple came out with a separate CDMA-based model for Verizon for a total of 18 different SKUs, more than it’s ever had for a single product.
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Tupac is no prophet, he was a rapper. And it's pretty ironic to be quoting a rapper when you are complaining about supposedly sexist and misogynistic comments. Females are bitches to most in the hip hop world. On videos, their main job is to shake their fat booties and little else. Fags are also mentioned in some Tupac tracks, and I don't believe that he's referring to English cigarettes.

Hilarious. Just because plenty of rappers are misogynist doesn't invalidate the point he eloquently makes. Address and criticize the quote, don't dismiss him because of a genre he belongs to. Ignorant.

And simply because Tupac may not have been on the cutting edge of progressive thought regarding sexual orientation doesn't invalidate that he made a valid point about sexism. Again, complete non sequitur.

Hilariously ignorant and dreadful misuse of logic.
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I don't hate women. Women are awesome and I get along great with females. I have more female friends than male. I also treat women a whole lot better than your rapper heroes do.

Okay. That's completely unverifiable.

You still fail to directly address the quote, instead relying on the fact that he quoted a rapper and used that generalization to discount his point erroneously.

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Dont pretend to use science to hide behind your bigotry and hate.


You sound a lot like Thomas Jefferson in your rationalization as to why your fellow human being is inferior to you by design.

"Comparing them by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me, that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one [black] could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous.

He goes on to praise their musical talent, but not in poetry and math where they were inferior by design. That they were lazy. That they lacked logic skills and they smelled bad.

Then there was the brilliant, young, female poet Phillis Wheatley. She was the first African American poet and the first African-American woman whose writings were published. Jefferson stated she wasnt a poet at all, she just mimic the things she had already read simply because he couldnt bring himself to believe this girl was capable of such things.

You disgust me!

Beautiful analysis. Thanks for sharing.
post #50 of 116
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Look at it this way. A lot of girls don't put very much stuff on their phones so the 16GB is fine and for $200 plus a small early upgrade fee they would have the pretty new iPhone - all for the cost of a pair of shoes. You know how they are with shoes, they need to match their outfit.

I don't see a lot of guys going silly over a white iPhone.

What a sexist guy ! Your comment make me so angry I will go all crazy for the white iPhone just to fuck your mind.

For the record, white iPad it's what I have and all people can fill devices with photos, apps and everything, not only you, sexist guy...
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I think that cultural issues make up probably 95%. Genetic issues might only account for a very small percentage, but there are slight differences between the male brain VS female brain and there are also hormonal issues involved.

You're an idiot and a bigot! There is NO evidence to support any of your BS. You should be banned.
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I don't hate women. Women are awesome and I get along great with females. I have more female friends than male. I also treat women a whole lot better than your rapper heroes do.

You don't have to hate in order to put someone down and essentially be an abusive ass. You're ideas are abusive. Think I'm wrong? Do me a favor and tell you're female "friends" on Monday exactly what you stated here. I'm sure they'll still be your friends.
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Your comment make me so angry I will go all crazy for the white iPhone just to fuck your mind.

The fact that you can get so upset over relatively benign comments means you are the one with a fucked mind.

There is nothing wrong with making generalizations if they are true. I said nothing derogatory about women, they just have different priorities.

Men tend to get heavy into technology and performance autos simply for the sake of the tweaking the machines where women tend to be less interested in those things but are usually keen on fashion and conversation. One mindset is not better than the other, just different. Ironically each tend to look at the other's priorities as rather peculiar. The difference between men and women is a good thing.

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post #54 of 116
If I wanted a white iphone I would just get a white case.
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If I wanted a white iphone I would just get a white case.

I bought a white Bumper. I have had more than a few women use that as an icebreaker to chat me up. Cheaper and easier than using a puppy.
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I will go all crazy for the white iPhone just to fuck your mind

Perhaps one of the laydees on this Forum could translate
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post #57 of 116
I think the girls=white, boys=black thang is ingrained in us from the wedding tradition (brides=white, grooms=black).
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I think the girls=white, boys=black thang is ingrained in us from the wedding tradition (brides=white, grooms=black).
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Q: Who was traditionally dressed in pink and called a girl?

A: The people who were traditionally dressed in pink and called girls were boys. Pink was considered the traditional colour for boys and blue for girls in the 19th century. In 1927, there was a report about Princess Astrid of Belgium who had decorated her son's room pink, only for her to give birth to a daughter. Part of the reason why blue may be seen as the traditional colour for girls is because the Virgin Mary is dressed in blue. Right until the mid-15th century, all children were referred to as girls, boys were called "knave girls" and girls were called "gay girls". The word "boy" originally meant "servant.

(Highlight above space for answer or watch QI G-Series Girls & Boys (S07E07) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f7urmRaRxY )
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I don't hate women. Women are awesome and I get along great with females. I have more female friends than male. I also treat women a whole lot better than your rapper heroes do.

i) You've got some serious issues with, and about women.

ii) I kinda feel badly for the women in your life (including the ones related to you, who have no choice).

iii) You're embarrassing yourself and this board. Please stop.
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The fact that you can get so upset over relatively benign comments means you are the one with a fucked mind.

There is nothing wrong with making generalizations if they are true. I said nothing derogatory about women, they just have different priorities.

Men tend to get heavy into technology and performance autos simply for the sake of the tweaking the machines where women tend to be less interested in those things but are usually keen on fashion and conversation. One mindset is not better than the other, just different. Ironically each tend to look at the other's priorities as rather peculiar. The difference between men and women is a good thing.

But your generalizations AREN'T all that true. You're making the assumption that MOST men are into computers and cars and MOST women are into fashion and conversation. Amongst my group of friends, just as many women are into Top Gear as men, and we all trade an equal amount of gossip. I know lots of female gamers and quite a few men whom I can approach for fashion advice.

Oh, by the way: I'm a woman who loves sports, cars, and technology. I can shame most of my male friends when it comes to basketball stats, and I held a job in the computer industry for three years before deciding to go to law school. I'm also a "normal and fashion-conscious" (to use your phrasing from an earlier post) woman. I am not the exception in my group of friends.

I've interacted with people who make assumptions like you've made, and it can be infuriating. I've had men express genuine surprise that I could explain some relatively simple differences in hard drives to them and others second-guess everything I said with a male coworker standing nearby. They were nice people, but they operated under the misguided conception that men were experts on technology and I couldn't possibly know as much simply because I'm female, so everything I said was suspect.

You wouldn't say, "most black people are lazy" because that's racist and untrue. By the same token, you also shouldn't make positive or neutral generalizations, because they can be just as destructive (e.g., "Asians are good at math" or "women don't like cars and technology"). They are just as racist or sexist as something one might categorize as a negative generalization. Saying things like "women aren't great with technology" can make it difficult for a well-qualified woman to get a job in the technology field, because the perception is that she'll be inferior to her male counterparts. Additionally, perpetuating that Asians are good at math can do the same thing to anyone else seeking a math-related position--if that individual isn't Asian, perhaps he/she won't be perceived as being equally qualified, even if he/she is.

We're all people, and we have varied talents and interests. Lots of women like tech. Lots of men don't. I'd be hard-pressed to make a "most" generalization about either group, though.
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Q: Who was traditionally dressed in pink and called a girl?


You're on fire today, Solipsism!
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While the White Iphone4 is nice does anyone really think that people have been waiting 10 months just to get a White IPhone? And even though rumors say IPhone5 will be a Fall release nobody has really made any statement at Apple thereby leaving the possibility still open for a June~July launch. So when you look at the White IPhone launch don't expect to see lines for this item
Most people that wanted An Iphone4 have a black one or settled for a black one

Yep, as someone who sells them I still get the odd person holding out for white.
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i) You've got some serious issues with, and about women.

ii) I kinda feel badly for the women in your life (including the ones related to you, who have no choice).

iii) You're embarrassing yourself and this board. Please stop.

100% agree. I find a lot of the remarks on this board just illiterate.
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Apple this weekend began preparing its retail segment for the imminent launch of the company's much-anticipated white iPhone 4 models, signaling the end of a somewhat embarrassing delay that has seen the handsets elude eager buyers since last July.

According to people familiar with the matter, Apple's U.S-based retail stores began receiving promotional information overnight that features the white iPhone 4, expected to launch for both Verizon and AT&T subscribers "within the next week."

In addition, several stores are said to have received shipment notifications for the various white iPhone 4 SKUs and have been instructed to hold those shipments in the back of the house until further notice. All indications point to an official announcement by Wednesday, April 27th.

Word that white iPhones are finally en route to Apple stores in the U.S. comes just days after the inventory systems of U.K.-based wireless carrier Vodafone indicated stock of the handsets while photos of a 16GB model in official retail packaging -- carrying model number MC604B/A -- were published online.

The arrival of white models is expected to serve as a boon for iPhone sales during a time of year when customers have historically held off purchasing new iPhones under the expectation of next-generation models making their debut during the summer.

This year, however, Apple is widely reported to have decided to forgo a summer iPhone introduction in favor of introducing so-called fifth-generation models in the fall, much closer to the holiday shopping season. According to AppleInsider's sources, these new models will go into production in September and sport a unified Qualcomm baseband capable of serving both GSM and CDMA networks.

Such a move is also expected to allow the Cupertino-based company to align fifth-generation iPhones for a simultaneous release on both GSM and CDMA networks, meaning both AT&T and Verizon customers should be able to buy the new handsets later this year at the same time.



Apple has publicly pushed back the release of the white iPhone 4 several times over the past 9 months. In late July of last year, the company revealed that it would not be able to launch the handset alongside black models that month as it had originally planned. Instead, Apple rescheduled the launch for "Late 2010" only to concede a few months later that it would miss that self-imposed deadline as well, telling customers not to expect white models until the Spring of 2011.

This March, however, AppleInsider exclusively reported that Apple had finally begun production of the white models, which would become available to customers by April. The company was said to have made changes to both the handset's original "film material" and paint mixture that were resulting in the production of a "huge" number of defective units.

Apple won't be able to win on this White iPhone deal. No matter what, those who have been waiting 10 months for it will cry and complain about scratches, the white isn't white enough, and on and on... I like the black one
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But your generalizations AREN'T all that true. You're making the assumption that MOST men are into computers and cars and MOST women are into fashion and conversation. Amongst my group of friends, just as many women are into Top Gear as men, and we all trade an equal amount of gossip. I know lots of female gamers and quite a few men whom I can approach for fashion advice.

Oh, by the way: I'm a woman who loves sports, cars, and technology. I can shame most of my male friends when it comes to basketball stats, and I held a job in the computer industry for three years before deciding to go to law school. I'm also a "normal and fashion-conscious" (to use your phrasing from an earlier post) woman. I am not the exception in my group of friends.

I've interacted with people who make assumptions like you've made, and it can be infuriating. I've had men express genuine surprise that I could explain some relatively simple differences in hard drives to them and others second-guess everything I said with a male coworker standing nearby. They were nice people, but they operated under the misguided conception that men were experts on technology and I couldn't possibly know as much simply because I'm female, so everything I said was suspect.

You wouldn't say, "most black people are lazy" because that's racist and untrue. By the same token, you also shouldn't make positive or neutral generalizations, because they can be just as destructive (e.g., "Asians are good at math" or "women don't like cars and technology"). They are just as racist or sexist as something one might categorize as a negative generalization. Saying things like "women aren't great with technology" can make it difficult for a well-qualified woman to get a job in the technology field, because the perception is that she'll be inferior to her male counterparts. Additionally, perpetuating that Asians are good at math can do the same thing to anyone else seeking a math-related position--if that individual isn't Asian, perhaps he/she won't be perceived as being equally qualified, even if he/she is.

We're all people, and we have varied talents and interests. Lots of women like tech. Lots of men don't. I'd be hard-pressed to make a "most" generalization about either group, though.

Good post and I can't help but notice that you are the exception not the rule and you obviously feel the same way. I may also be the exception in my gender. I love smart women, I am not intimidated by them and I encourage them. I also am happy to let them be who they naturally are without judging them. I'm in technology but I try to turn it off when not at work. And I do love a good chick flick and not ashamed to admit emotional scenes can bring a tear to my eye.

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Good post and I can't help but notice that you are the exception not the rule and you obviously feel the same way. I may also be the exception in my gender. I love smart women, I am not intimidated by them and I encourage them. I also am happy to let them be who they naturally are without judging them. I'm in technology but I try to turn it off when not at work. And I do love a good chick flick and not ashamed to admit emotional scenes can bring a tear to my eye.

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I do love a good chick flick and not ashamed to admit emotional scenes can bring a tear to my eye.

But would you buy a white iPhone?
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Quit trying to get in.

Haha, I'm a mind reader too. When you get to know a woman really well and she starts telling you all of her secrets you can't betray them or let her know that you totally get her.

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post #69 of 116
I used to care a couple of months ago about upgrading my iPhone this month, but my upgrade date has come and gone and I no longer really care about upgrading my 3GS to either an iPhone 4 or 5. At a certain point, all the tech stuff just become superfluous.
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But would you buy a white iPhone?

Nope.

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I used to care a couple of months ago about upgrading my iPhone this month, but my upgrade date has come and gone and I no longer really care about upgrading my 3GS to either an iPhone 4 or 5. At a certain point, all the tech stuff just become superfluous.

It can be a difficult decision. Obviously your subsidized phone is completely paid off but your payments are still the same. On the other hand a new phone is going to cost $200 out of pocket.

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Embarrassing? Try a fu**ing disaster.

Apple sold 18+ million iPhones last quarter. Corporate activations for iOS are double that of Android.

Explain to me again how this is a "fu**ing disaster?"
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The difference between men and women is a good thing.

Men and women are indeed different. They're biologically and physically different. It's funny to see ignorant people wet their precious panties by simply pointing out that simple fact. Men aren't better than women, and women aren't better than men. Men are better at some things than women and women are better at other things than men, generally speaking.

Humankind needs both males and females and without both sexes the species will fail to propagate. Claiming that both are the same is ignorant BS and highly unscientific. Political correctness is the height of ignorance and it enables people who like to celebrate their complete disdain for facts and science by proudly and shamelessly flaunting their embarrassing lack of knowledge.
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Men and women are indeed different. They're biologically and physically different.

Thanks for the biology lesson.

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Political correctness is the height of ignorance

Political correctness is complicated. To think otherwise is ignorant.

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Most women are totally clueless when it comes to computers. There might be a few exceptions to that rule, but overall, females need help from males when it comes to any computer related issues beyond the simplest of problems. This may be due to cultural issues or perhaps due to genetics. Either way, most women are worse at computers than men are.

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I think that cultural issues make up probably 95%. Genetic issues might only account for a very small percentage, but there are slight differences between the male brain VS female brain and there are also hormonal issues involved.

I cannot believe someone in this day and age would actually believe this sexist tripe, let alone make their opinion known in public.


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Thanks for the sexist nonsense.

If this was a racist instead of merely gender based slag, you'd probably be banned, but I guess it's okay to make stupid generalisations about women here.

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WTF is with all these sexist and misogynistic comments?

I'm glad a couple of people at least have voiced their disgust. Truly appalling.
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Thanks for the biology lesson.

It wasn't my intention to give you a biology lesson. There are however a few others who appear to be in need of a lesson.
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The political correctness in this thread is beyond incredible. I've not commented either way on this, but people are LOOSING THEIR F'ING MINDS over THIS statement: "Genetic issues might only account for a very small percentage, but there are slight differences between the male brain VS female brain and there are also hormonal issues involved."

My god, really? You people are lunatics to lose your mind over this and calling it sexist. It's like the world exists in one place with reality... And you guys actually live at PCU where the world is all unicorns and rainbows.

To clarify the "sexist" comment:

Point 1
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http://health.howstuffworks.com/huma...nt-brains1.htm

"In 2001, researchers from Harvard found that certain parts of the brain were differently sized in males and females, which may help balance out the overall size difference. The study found that parts of the frontal lobe, responsible for problem-solving and decision-making, and the limbic cortex, responsible for regulating emotions, were larger in women [source: Hoag]. In men, the parietal cortex, which is involved in space perception, and the amygdala, which regulates sexual and social behavior, were larger [source: Hoag]."

Ok, so all of the friggin PC lunatics here are more informed than this Harvard study.


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Ok, I'm not even going to bother linking to something that states that men/women have different hormones. The nutjobs here are convinced men and women are identical, so... I'm pretty sure the sane people have a fundamental understanding that men and women have different hormones.



Imagine if I put an (R) next to my name too. Just the fact that I'm a Republican must make me racist as well as sexist in your minds, right? No right thinking people can be Republicans unless they are racist and sexist, right?

I'm a pretty calm guy... but what I've just read here is absolute madness.
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Imagine if I put an (R) next to my name too. Just the fact that I'm a Republican must make me racist as well as sexist in your minds, right? No right thinking people can be Republicans unless they are racist and sexist, right?

Stop baiting people with political nonsense. Most people here don't give a damn about whether you're (R) or (D) or (W)hatever, but only the fact that you see the need to wear it on your sleeve.
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Stop baiting people with political nonsense. Most people here don't give a damn about whether you're (R) or (D) or (W)hatever, but only the fact that you see the need to wear it on your sleeve.

Most people came here to talk about the release of the white iPhone.

Seems there were a whole lot of people wearing the "PC God" badge on their sleeve. It's like they were checking in to foursquare to make sure they got enough in to get their "PC Badge" of the day. So... glad to see you finally started to crack down on this now.
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Actual question for the PC crowd (that I pretty harshly went after in my last post ;-) )

I am actually curious to know the honest answer to this.


Is it sexist to even ASK if differences between men and women and their take on fashion have any place in the conversation about how and who the white iPhone will sell to?
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