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New photos from overseas show a purported iPhone prototype with a larger touchscreen display, similar to the rumored edge-to-edge iPhone 5 screen.

The photos were shared Monday by MIC Gadget, which made no claims about their authenticity. The photo from China shows a white iPhone with a body similar to the iPhone 4, but a larger screen on the front squeezed into the same frame.

The front of the device also shows the new proximity sensor spotted on the white iPhone 4, set to finally go on sale this week following numerous delays.

While one photo shows what appears to be an operational unit, a second picture features what is just a front panel and LCD component, without the rest of the phone. It too features the newly designed proximity sensor above the earpiece.

The pictures are supported by similar alleged engineering sketches that were first revealed in March. Those "mold engineering drawings" claimed to be for Apple's fifth-generation iPhone also featured a slightly larger edge-to-edge display.



The current iPhone 4 sports a 3.5-inch display with a resolution of 960 by 640 pixels. Reports have suggested that Apple is looking to expand the screen size to either 3.7 inches or 4 inches with a next-generation model.



The anticipated fifth-generation iPhone is rumored to arrive later than usual this year, after the typical June launch timeframe. Reports have suggested that Apple will begin production of the device in September, but that the new device's design will feature only "slight modifications" from the current iPhone 4.
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Nice unblurry Pic, might be real. Seems to be 3,7 inches max.

Not sure that I like that the bezel on the bottom is getting smaller though...
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Now this is more like the real deal.. Unlike Joshua's mockup of the next iPhone would be like..
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What is that extra slot at the top?

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What is that extra slot at the top?

It's for the proximity and light sensor. You'll note that it is in the iPhone 4 as well.
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Bring it on Apple! I'm due for a phone. Bigger screen, A5 SoC, and 64 GB storage. Bring it.
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Again with the 3.7 inches. That sucks if it turns out to be true. I wanted 4 at the minimum.
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3:2 3.7” = 3.08" x 2.05" = 6.32" sq

3:2 3.5” = 2.91” x 1.94” = 5.65” sq

Larger by: 0.17” x 0.11” = 0.67” sq

Does that really warrant the change in and of itself? Was making the casing smaller make it harder to hold and/or disallow for the needed components when trying to go edge-to-edge? Is there an issue with doubling the number of 326ppi panels that isn’t felt when producing the 312ppi panels? Something else?
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That appears to be a Photoshopped fake. Follow the line of the forefinger from the upper right side of the phone to the left of the phone. Doesn't work.

Take your own phone and hold it like that. You can't and make it look like the photo, at least not unless you have deformed hands.
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Originally Posted by kilimanjaro View Post

Now this is more like the real deal.. Unlike Joshua's mockup of the next iPhone would be like..

indeed. that thing was hideous.
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Originally Posted by MacVicta View Post

Again with the 3.7 inches. That sucks if it turns out to be true. I wanted 4 at the minimum.

4" would be a maximum for me...
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Originally Posted by Shrike View Post

It's for the proximity and light sensor. You'll note that it is in the iPhone 4 as well.


Ok I want to believe you but I can't find it on my iP4. I also looked at the ifixit teardown.

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What is that extra slot at the top?

That's Apple's 'unlocked' phone... It's coin operated, thus the extra slot. It's where you insert the quarters!
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Ok I want to believe you but I can't find it on my iP4. I also looked at the ifixit teardown.

It’s there, but you can’t easily see it on the black. Put it up to an external light source and tilt the device until you get the right refraction. Or you can start a phone call and then put your finger over the sensor area and watch the display turn off.


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That's Apple's 'unlocked' phone... It's coin operated, thus the extra slot. It's where you insert the quarters!

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post #15 of 44
Any 8th grader could easily fake the photos of the larger screen.
post #16 of 44
Fake. The screen has definitely been Photoshopped or covered with a paper screen.
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I don't personally need or want a larger screen. With that said, I at least appreicate that this fake/mockup/prototype looks really good. The previous mockups of the edge-to-edge iPhone just looked bizarre and wrong...like a mutant photoshop job, which they probably were. In any case, this one doesn't look too bad. If they keep the same physical dimensions, then I could go for a larger screen, but its not mandatory.
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It's like that UFO poster caption: I want to believe.

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4" would be a maximum for me...

I would prefer if Apple split the iPhone lineup, with one that maintains the traditional size (3.5-3.7") and a larger one that's like 4.3 or even 4.5 inches. Then we could all be happy.
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The suggestion for an edge-to-edge display was brought up a while ago and I don't like the design of it. I also don't think that it gives enough benefit - the areas where most space is wasted is above and below the screen which is useful for movies, games and web browsing in landscape but also extra space for the keyboard in portrait.

This would mean changing the phone aspect ratio but legacy portrait apps can be cropped as shown here and it seems the speakers aren't round like I thought so the phone can be shortened:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=116701&page=3

Maintaining the aspect is the easy route to take but I think, like the iPod phatty design, it just looks a bit odd.

It's also disappointing to see the physical home button still there. The fact they put gestures into the UI to simulate home button actions for developers suggests that the physical button isn't ideal. I think it does add to the iconic design so it doesn't have to be removed in favour of a gesture bezel but it can be capacitive.
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That appears to be a Photoshopped fake. Follow the line of the forefinger from the upper right side of the phone to the left of the phone. Doesn't work.

Take your own phone and hold it like that. You can't and make it look like the photo, at least not unless you have deformed hands.

Even if it was photoshopped, it would be the screen that was updated, not the fingers.
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That appears to be a Photoshopped fake. Follow the line of the forefinger from the upper right side of the phone to the left of the phone. Doesn't work.

Take your own phone and hold it like that. You can't and make it look like the photo, at least not unless you have deformed hands.

Must be alien hands. Wonder if this is the "correct way" to hold the phone?
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I think it does add to the iconic design so it doesn't have to be removed in favour of a gesture bezel but it can be capacitive.

I actually prefer the physical button over just a capacitive one, but if they make it like the other mock up where its extended and you can do gestures on it, that'd be cool.

As for this prototype/fake/mockup/whatever it is... I want to see the back of it! I'm hoping its some kind of metal.
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That's Apple's 'unlocked' phone... It's coin operated, thus the extra slot. It's where you insert the quarters!
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Sweet! Now they can install iPhonebooths with wifi hot spots so you can make pay as you go wifi calls!
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Fake. The screen has definitely been Photoshopped or covered with a paper screen.

Now I know it's real. As soon as someone chimes in with their half cocked arm chair photoshop discovery, iknow it's actually a real photo and real Apple product.

Thanks dude.
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Originally Posted by NeilM View Post

That appears to be a Photoshopped fake. Follow the line of the forefinger from the upper right side of the phone to the left of the phone. Doesn't work.

Take your own phone and hold it like that. You can't and make it look like the photo, at least not unless you have deformed hands.

The fingers/hand look fine to me. On the left side, you see the thumb and palm but none of the fingers. On the right side you see all four fingers, with the index finger recessed a bit as if the person is gripping with the other three but letting that one angle back away from the phone.

What's the problem?

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Originally Posted by elliots11 View Post

I actually prefer the physical button over just a capacitive one, but if they make it like the other mock up where its extended and you can do gestures on it, that'd be cool.

As for this prototype/fake/mockup/whatever it is... I want to see the back of it! I'm hoping its some kind of metal.

There's something reassuring about a physical home button. It's like an ejector seat for apps. I know it's all electronics behind it but the idea of something tactile, that physically responds to your input makes it all the more suitable as a panic/stop button. It would be more difficult for me to repose trust in a gesture to perform the same function, as cool as that might be.

If they took the capacitative approach to a home button, there are a ton of hand sets out there that do that: patent territory?
post #28 of 44
Very nice if it's real.

C'mon Apple, give us a notifications light this time!
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3.7 sounds pretty good. I still doubt it, but I certainly don't think we will see 4. Apple already has a tablet, so it does not need to compete with the jumbo phones that barely fit into a pocket (unless your style is baggy). Still has to be a retina display, so might be more expense
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post #30 of 44
Bit larger screen would be nice, but I hope they don't make it too much thinner. Gets much thinner, and its not comfortable to hold!
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What is the text next to the time? I didn't see this on other Chinese iPhones at the moment. I don't own an iPhone a.t.m. so correct me if you can put the date/day of week next to the time.

I really like the stretched screen, one of my biggest problems with the iPhone has been that the front of the phone looks exactly the same as all previous iPhones. This concept one looks much better.
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The new Larger iPhone - brought to by the makers of Enzyte
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Cool - this looks really good. Any addition to screen real estate would be really valuable, and is a terrific way to add value to the device without having to change the external physical dimensions. I'm pretty confident that Apple spent a lot of time working with prototypes prior to the launch of the original iPhone before deciding that the current height and width is about optimal for a pocketable device - the bigger they can make the screen within this constraint the better.

I really don't quite get folks' concern with "accidentally tapping" should the screen go "edge to edge" eventually. I've played around with the different ways that i hold the phone and can't actually conceive of this being an issue at all (particularly given that in the App Developer guidelines they recommend an exclusion zone around the edges of the screen anyway, which looks better visually).
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What is the text next to the time? I didn't see this on other Chinese iPhones at the moment. I don't own an iPhone a.t.m. so correct me if you can put the date/day of week next to the time.

I really like the stretched screen, one of my biggest problems with the iPhone has been that the front of the phone looks exactly the same as all previous iPhones. This concept one looks much better.

It just says "P.M", in Chinese.
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Very nice if it's real.

C'mon Apple, give us a notifications light this time!

and yes, please god, if it's not too much to ask... should i really have to pick up my phone, hit the home button, swipe an unlock, (perhaps enter a passcode)... simply to see whether or not a new email message has arrived?

this is insanity.
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post #36 of 44
even if the screen was larger, the pixel dimensions would have to be the same at the iPhone 4. Would it still be a "retina" display at that point?
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No glare, no reflection.
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Again with the 3.7 inches. That sucks if it turns out to be true. I wanted 4 at the minimum.

Buy a Dell Streak then.

The current iPhone screen size is perfect. It's a phone. I don't understand why people would want to hold something that's almost the size of a small paperback novel to their head to make a call.
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even if the screen was larger, the pixel dimensions would have to be the same at the iPhone 4. Would it still be a "retina" display at that point?

yep i think others have calculated that at 3.7" with the same resolution the DPI would drop to something still above 300 (from the current 326). Apple & Jobs have (somewhat arbitrarily) decided that anything above 300 DPI counts as a "retina display", so the new display would be fine.

Presumably when it launches they will simply stop referring to DPI specifically (to avoid pointing out that the DPI has in fact decreased) and simply continue to refer to it as a retina display.
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Buy a Dell Streak then.

The current iPhone screen size is perfect. It's a phone. I don't understand why people would want to hold something that's almost the size of a small paperback novel to their head to make a call.

Perhaps it's perfect for you but not others?

My mother is in her late 60's, her eyesight is not as good as it used to be. She loves the simplicity and elegance of iOS, so is unlikely to ever buy a Dell Streak, however she would really appreciate a slightly larger screen. The size of the phone is not a huge issue for her because she carries it in her handbag, and she doesn't hold it to her head, because she uses the earpiece.

Do you see how your POV doesn't correspond with hers? Whose opinion do you think is more valid?
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