Originally Posted by BR
The real, legally accepted short form birth certificate was presented way back in 2008. Why the issue even lasted this long is utterly insane. Fellows, SDW is full of shit in this thread. Don't wallow in it, too.
You are correct that it was presented. That doesn't alter the fact that McCain had his eligibility questioned as well and that the questioning of Obama's eligibility originated within the Clinton campaign. It doesn't alter the fact that questioning eligibility has been done on other candidates and that the sole motive for questioning eligibility could not only be racism.
Nice strawman though. Try harder m'kay.
Originally Posted by tonton
Trumptman, you should be ashamed as well.
I said it was politically motivated.
Don't lie. You said it had racist undertones. It doesn't. Skepticism of an easy to produce form isn't proof of anything with regard to racism.
If Clinton made it an issue, it was politically motivated. If the Repubs and Teabaggers make it an issue, it's politically motivated. As BR points out, the short form BC, which is legally accepted, even by the US Immigration Department, was released in 2008. To push it any further than that was fucking moronic, no matter who it was who was doing the pushing.
You didn't say it was moronic. You said it had racist undertones. Likewise when Clinton ran against Obama she was accused of racist undertones. Her husband was accused of being an outright racist.
Now is it moronic to question the short form? Perhaps liberals like yourself should adopt some skepticism. It certainly would have helped you and those who believe like you on that TANG matter.
And you've shown again and again and again on these boards that you have no idea what racism is or where it exists that's a problem.
You're talking out your ass and should shut up. Normally I'm not rude like this but I tire of you and your continual accusations. You live in a fucking monoculture. What gives you any sense that you have any understanding or race and racism? You live in a country that is 95% ethnic Chinese. You quite literally have no idea what you are talking about. You don't even try to engage people. Information, facts, links, etc are brought up and you ignore them and call people names and level accusations. It is why your view of the world is failing everywhere it is being applied. Being hateful and mean won't alter that outcome. Obama's not going to get second term no matter how many people you call racist and no matter how many times you repeat the claim that everyone is a racist who doesn't agree with you or vote for Obama.
Stop declaring that all the people that LIVE under the results of your worldview are deluded. Until you come back to the States and live under that which you profess, your just being hypocritical and uninformed. You demand others live under the laws, and conditions you have fled. You quite LITERALLY have no idea and that ABSOLUTELY is the problem.
Hey Tonton, do me a favor. Before you bring up that nice health care plan, go to the border of China and Hong Kong and take a few picture and post them up here. Do the police in Hong Kong have the right to ask you for ID? Don't live in a walled in mono-culture where the police can card you at any time and point fingers at me and say racism because it is a ridiculous bit of farce on your part.