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post #81 of 87
I heard a story the other day of someone that received a phone call...

"Hi, I'm John from your phone company. We are working with Microsoft because there is lots of spam in your zip code. For a small fee of $200 I can fix it for you. Please visit this site and install the remote access application"

At which point he took down the victims credit card details, charged them $200, then remoted into their computer and installed a bunch of malware.


It's sometimes hard to enter the mindset someone that's technology illiterate, but this is the level they are at.

I also think that socially engineered malware like this story and MACDefender is more of a threat to the mainstream user than exploits that target OS and application vulnerabilities.
post #82 of 87
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There's a good possibility this piece of malware may get some traction. It's an issue many here would want to discuss since Apple's OS is generally said to be immune to these types of attacks.

No, it's an issue YOU want to pounce on to troll these forums.
post #83 of 87
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While a bit over the top, this article notes another sneaky trojan may be on the way to Apple machines. Apparently a hacker "beta test" of a security flaw?
http://www.dailytech.com/Sneaky+Troj...ticle21018.htm

And this is relevant how? Just another chance to portray OS X as less secure? Why not collate a list of known Apple malware etc. for us on a blog?

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What you may not understand is this is exactly the same situation on a Windows machine. The malware doesn't load itself. It requires your acceptance.

There are Windows malware programs that block this exact attack. Avast is one of those. I suspect that there are solutions for OS x too. Some browsers are also giving you a security alert, or blocking the malware before you're given the option to load it.

Apparently denying that malware can find it's way into Apple devices just as well as Windows is more important than acknowledging that basic security software may be beneficial to many users of Apple devices.

I use free Avast on my Windows PC, I pity the fools that are scammed into paying (yearly!) for bloatware like Norton and Kaspersky, etc. I do not run in on my Mac because currently there is no need and it would take unnecessary system resources.

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It's a nasty little trojan that requires a lot of skill and patience to remove on a Windows machine. But I think it's on it's third go-round there, so I'd expect it to be a tougher removal than on an Apple computer.

Edit: Don't worry, it's quite easy to remove unwanted stuff from an Apple computer in general. Windows is completely different in architecture, design, and vulnerability.
post #84 of 87
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Originally Posted by Firefly7475 View Post

I heard a story the other day of someone that received a phone call...

"Hi, I'm John from your phone company. We are working with Microsoft because there is lots of spam in your zip code. For a small fee of $200 I can fix it for you. Please visit this site and install the remote access application"

At which point he took down the victims credit card details, charged them $200, then remoted into their computer and installed a bunch of malware.

It's sometimes hard to enter the mindset someone that's technology illiterate, but this is the level they are at.

I also think that socially engineered malware like this story and MACDefender is more of a threat to the mainstream user than exploits that target OS and application vulnerabilities.

The point is buying a Mac does not make you less of an idiot. However does it mean people should be concerned about the current Mac security structure and run antivirus software? I don't think so.

They should be educated to (a) get Mac software from the Mac App Store where possible and (b) do not download anything from risky sources.
post #85 of 87
For me, it comes back to real world experience (and sorry for being redundant with an earlier post).

I had one Mac intrusion 17 years ago and have not used AV protection on my Macs. It was essentially harmless and easily removed. Keep in mind this was long before OS X was on the scene.

I've had multiple Windows intrusions despite always running AV protection. In one case, the damage was great enough that an IT department could not fully clean it out, necessitating a new hard disk drive drive.

At the end of the day, what else matters more than this?
post #86 of 87
Antivirus software is truly the Maginot line of the digital world. No one touting it here has pointed to any exploits regarding OS X that were anything more than a carefully choreographed "proof of concept" or a social vector.
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