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A new software update addresses a variety of minor issues for users of the second generation "black box" A4-powered Apple TV.

The update, which is the second minor update to version 4.2, is named 4.2.2, but internally is described as iOS 4.3 build 8F305. The current build of iOS used by iPhone and iPads is 8J3.

Apple reports that new update addresses a half dozen minor issues:

Audio: Addresses an issue in which audio is not output when playing some video content.
Video playback: Addresses an issue in which video is not displayed when playing some content.
Audio output setting: Adds an audio output setting for switching to 16-bit audio for compatibility with some TVs and AV receivers.
Live FF/RW improvements: Improves the performance of fast-forwarding and rewinding live events.
Movie description: Addresses an issue in which the description information is not displayed for some movies.
YouTube video order: Addresses an issue in which YouTube subscription videos were not ordered by date.



Users of the original, Intel-based Apple TV are still stuck with software update 3.0.1, as that model is now discontinued.
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Let's hope they fix the home sharing issue as it's been around for a while now!
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it fixed my movie descriptions!
now they show up like they should.
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Let's hope they fix the home sharing issue as it's been around for a while now!

What home sharing issue? I haven't has any issues as far as I know.
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Can anyone tell me if the new audio settings allow you to change from 48 kHz to 44.1 kHz?
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Let's hope they fix the home sharing issue as it's been around for a while now!

I wish people would be more specific when they posted comments like this. Exactly what issue are you seeing?
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when are they putting in the A5, come september with the ipods?

That's the only thing that's keeping me from buying the current iteration. The a5 and new graphics will take this little system to the next level.
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I wish people would be more specific when they posted comments like this. Exactly what issue are you seeing?

I thought it was a common problem. At macrumors.com they all where chiming in about it.

My appleTV routinely looses information about my Home Sharing machine and claims there are '0' content on it. The way to solve it is to log out/in from home sharing on the appleTV. It happens every few times the appleTV comes up and have been doing this consistently from when I got it
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I wish people would be more specific when they posted comments like this. Exactly what issue are you seeing?

Not sure it's the same problem but my first gen apple tv crashes about once or twice a day since I've been using home sharing and the remote app on my iPhone and iPad. Just got a new atv 2 but haven't hooked it up yet (looking for a cheap hdmi cord on Maui, not easy). All in all I loved the first one. Never saw the need for the built in HD always streamed everything anyway
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The 2 issues that I would like to see addressed are:
- my screensaver settings seem to drop out intermittently, I feel like I have to set this every few days
- the ATV doesn't seem to store my wifi password, meaning that from time to time when i need to reselect my wifi network, i have to (time-consumingly) manually re-enter the wifi password, something that is obviously never required on a Mac, iPhone etc...

oh, and obviously it would be useful if Apple allowed me to play the most widely used video formats in the universe.
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I thought it was a common problem. At macrumors.com they all where chiming in about it.

My appleTV routinely looses information about my Home Sharing machine and claims there are '0' content on it. The way to solve it is to log out/in from home sharing on the appleTV. It happens every few times the appleTV comes up and have been doing this consistently from when I got it

I've not seen that from several Macs and two iPhones. I wonder what the issue is? Maybe a factory reset is in order and a firm tap on the side?
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Originally Posted by RobertE View Post

I thought it was a common problem. At macrumors.com they all where chiming in about it.

My appleTV routinely looses information about my Home Sharing machine and claims there are '0' content on it. The way to solve it is to log out/in from home sharing on the appleTV. It happens every few times the appleTV comes up and have been doing this consistently from when I got it

I've seen that a few times too. You can also fix it by simply closing and reopening iTunes.
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Let's hope they fix the home sharing issue as it's been around for a while now!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

A lot of Apple TV2 users started having metadata (descriptions) issues about two months ago. Todays update fixes that issue, but only for the Apple TV2.

For example, before todays update, I could not view any descriptions on my Apple TV2 to new media added to iTunes 10.2. I had to reinstall iTunes 10.1 to view the descriptions. Now with todays update, that's no longer an issue.

But there is still an issue with iTunes 10.2+. I just reinstalled 10.2.2 to test the Apple TV and it worked, but now my iPad 2 won't display any descriptions on new media added to the 10.2 library. Media added to the 10.1 library is unaffected.
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

A lot of Apple TV2 users started having metadata (descriptions) issues about two months ago. Todays update fixes that issue, but only for the Apple TV2.

For example, before todays update, I could not view any descriptions on my Apple TV2 to new media added to iTunes 10.2. I had to reinstall iTunes 10.1 to view the descriptions. Now with todays update, that's no longer an issue.

But there is still an issue with iTunes 10.2+. I just reinstalled 10.2.2 to test the Apple TV and it worked, but now my iPad 2 won't display any descriptions on new media added to the 10.2 library. Media added to the 10.1 library is unaffected.

When adding shows to iTunes, iTunes 10.2.1 would not use the Long Description field to display on the AppleTV.
I use an AppleScript to copy this to the iTunes metadata file. It didn't actually change anything in the metadata in the file. It just forces iTunes to write it to the correct field.

Posted by kacheln
on page 12 here -> https://discussions.apple.com/thread...t=165&tstart=0

tell application "iTunes"
repeat with eachitem in selection
set dsc to description of eachitem
set long description of eachitem to dsc
end repeat
end tell
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When adding shows to iTunes, iTunes 10.2.1 would not use the Long Description field to display on the AppleTV.
I use an AppleScript to copy this to the iTunes metadata file. It didn't actually change anything in the metadata in the file. It just forces iTunes to write it to the correct field.

Posted by kacheln
on page 12 here -> https://discussions.apple.com/thread...t=165&tstart=0

tell application "iTunes"
repeat with eachitem in selection
set dsc to description of eachitem
set long description of eachitem to dsc
end repeat
end tell

Chris, thanks for the intel but I'm sticking with 10.1 for now. IMO iTunes 10.2 users should not have to run scripts to enable a feature that was working just fine in 10.1. What about metadata descriptions on the iPad 2 (using iTunes 10.2)? Will that script fix that discrepancy as well?
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I wonder if Apple is going to fix the pricing issue in iTMS. The prices are cheaper if you use a first gen AppleTV compared to the exact same content with a 2G. It's ridiculous. We just have both attached and switch back to the 1G if we are actually renting something.
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Can anyone tell me if the new audio settings allow you to change from 48 kHz to 44.1 kHz?

Audio Output options are limited to 16-bit and Auto. Is this related to how your CDs were encoded?
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Audio Output options are limited to 16-bit and Auto. Is this related to how your CDs were encoded?

Thanks for the response. A not very well publicised but IMHO highly disappointing shortcoming of ATV2 is that it re-samples all content to 48 kHz. Any music ripped from CD or bought from iTMS (which have 44.1 kHz sample rates) is therefore "tampered with" by the ATV. As 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz is not an integer multiple, this resampling is challenging to perform accurately with low CPU usage.

The Roku Soundbridge M1001 (no longer available) also re-sampled everything to 48 kHz and in the process introduced audible noise in some tracks.

I think that one might reasonably expect that if you stream an Apple Lossless file to the ATV, the bitstream that comes out of the ATV should be exactly the same as that contained in the lossless file. Sadly, if the lossless file has a 44.1 kHz sample rate, this will not be the case.
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when are they putting in the A5, come september with the ipods?

That's the only thing that's keeping me from buying the current iteration. The a5 and new graphics will take this little system to the next level.

Hopefully well see the A5(Cortex-A9MP2, SGX543MP2, 512MB RAM), that 2nd NAND space used for 16GB total, and an SDK for AppleTV App Store apps this year.
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Chris, thanks for the intel but I'm sticking with 10.1 for now. IMO iTunes 10.2 users should not have to run scripts to enable a feature that was working just fine in 10.1. What about metadata descriptions on the iPad 2 (using iTunes 10.2)? Will that script fix that discrepancy as well?

I don't believe it will fix it for the iPad.
Pretty sure iTunes will need a tweak.
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

Thanks for the response. A not very well publicised but IMHO highly disappointing shortcoming of ATV2 is that it re-samples all content to 48 kHz. Any music ripped from CD or bought from iTMS (which have 44.1 kHz sample rates) is therefore "tampered with" by the ATV. As 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz is not an integer multiple, this resampling is challenging to perform accurately with low CPU usage.

The Roku Soundbridge M1001 (no longer available) also re-sampled everything to 48 kHz and in the process introduced audible noise in some tracks.

I think that one might reasonably expect that if you stream an Apple Lossless file to the ATV, the bitstream that comes out of the ATV should be exactly the same as that contained in the lossless file. Sadly, if the lossless file has a 44.1 kHz sample rate, this will not be the case.

So what? Why should an average, non-lossless listener care?

It would be helpful if you first laid that out.
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Originally Posted by RobertE View Post

I thought it was a common problem. At macrumors.com they all where chiming in about it.

My appleTV routinely looses information about my Home Sharing machine and claims there are '0' content on it. The way to solve it is to log out/in from home sharing on the appleTV. It happens every few times the appleTV comes up and have been doing this consistently from when I got it

I am experiencing the same problem.
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Not sure it's the same problem but my first gen apple tv crashes about once or twice a day since I've been using home sharing and the remote app on my iPhone and iPad. Just got a new atv 2 but haven't hooked it up yet (looking for a cheap hdmi cord on Maui, not easy). All in all I loved the first one. Never saw the need for the built in HD always streamed everything anyway

Try Amazon. They have good cables at a very good price. Cables made just for Amazon.
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So what? Why should an average, non-lossless listener care?

Because depending on the quality of the upsampling, there's potential for it to produce audible artefacts whether the source has been lossy-ly compressed or not.
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Hmmm I still can't play MKV files. Bug not fixed.
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Originally Posted by RobertE View Post

I thought it was a common problem. At macrumors.com they all where chiming in about it.

My appleTV routinely looses information about my Home Sharing machine and claims there are '0' content on it. The way to solve it is to log out/in from home sharing on the appleTV. It happens every few times the appleTV comes up and have been doing this consistently from when I got it

I unplug the box and plug it in again. Solves the problem until the next time. I've had this problem with each of two ATVs that I own. Not a deal breaker but an annoyance.
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Apple's updates to Apple TV have REALLY lacked luster, except for AirPlay. What's needed is the App Store ASAP, and more features like FireCore's ATV Flash offers -- a web browser and others. Also WHY hasn't Apple enabled the Bluetooth feature yet?! You can enable it if you JB, and then use your Apple BT Keyboard...
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Lots of hoopla about future iOS iPhones updating themselves, and people worried about downloading the whole os.

The AppleTV updates it's iOS itself, with a small incremental update. Good stuff.
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Hmmm I still can't play MKV files. Bug not fixed.

Get a Patriot Box Office and shut up.
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I've seen that a few times too. You can also fix it by simply closing and reopening iTunes.

What happens is that whenever iTunes has been restarted on the computer that the ATV is link to, when you go to the computer tab on the ATV it will either show that there are no libraies and Home Sharing needs to be turned on (which of course it already is) or it will display the library but when you try to play something it say endlessly displays "Accessing "X" Library" but it fails to complete that task.

It is usually a restarting of iTunes on the computer of the library that you are sharing that initiates the problem (i.e. because of a software update or reboot, etc.), but I have had the ATV "lose sight" of the library simply upon awakening from sleep mode.

Sometimes, disabling and re-enabling home sharing on the ATV works, but often the only solution is to simply reset the ATV by holding down the "Down + Menu" buttons for 6 seconds. When it restarts, all is fine.
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A not very well publicised but IMHO highly disappointing shortcoming of ATV2 is that it re-samples all content to 48 kHz. Any music ripped from CD or bought from iTMS (which have 44.1 kHz sample rates) is therefore "tampered with" by the ATV. As 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz is not an integer multiple, this resampling is challenging to perform accurately with low CPU usage.

I think that one might reasonably expect that if you stream an Apple Lossless file to the ATV, the bitstream that comes out of the ATV should be exactly the same as that contained in the lossless file. Sadly, if the lossless file has a 44.1 kHz sample rate, this will not be the case.

Wow. That sucks, I did not know that. I agree that I would expect it to stream in the best quality it can. I was listening to a song through my AppleTV last night, which was streaming from my iPhone, and it sounded a little muddy. So I paused, grabbed the CD, and put that into my CD player to see if there was a difference. It definitely was cleaner, but I wasn't sure how much of that was the compression and how much was the quality loss between the iPhone > TV > TV > Receiver conversions and cables. (I should probably be using the Toslink connection for audio, but my receiver is old and not digital, so I have to grab the audio from my TV that's sent through the HDMI connection. Not ideal, I know.) Anyways, after reading your post I'm thinking there was more quality lost in the process than I thought.
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[QUOTE=Mr. H;1862664]Thanks for the response. A not very well publicised but IMHO highly disappointing shortcoming of ATV2 is that it re-samples all content to 48 kHz. Any music ripped from CD or bought from iTMS (which have 44.1 kHz sample rates) is therefore "tampered with" by the ATV. As 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz is not an integer multiple, this resampling is challenging to perform accurately with low CPU usage.

I did not know the above. I have been doing quality tests now for a few months and was beginning to suspect something was going on though..

Kind of reminds me of my old Creative Labs Audigy Sound card on my old PC which did similair things to your music to 48 Khz.

Anyway my reason for asking this question is - does the new setting Auto or 16 bit help this at all?

Does setting it at 16 Bit for source. use 44 Khz or does it always convert to 48 Khz for hardware chipset reasons?

Thanks.

steve
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Netflix navigation is still bad and could learn from the way it is done on the PS3.

And I just hate how it always jumps back to the top of my favourite list if I view a movie that is way down the screen
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The prices are cheaper if you use a first gen AppleTV compared to the exact same content with a 2G.

I'm wondering if you have your defaults set up differently on both devices. One could be defaulting to HD, hence the higher price, while the other would be defaulting to SD...
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