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Adobe this week updated its Flash Player to version 10.3, bringing security enhancements, including the support for auto-update notifications in Apple's Mac OS X operating system.

The latest update fixes vulnerabilities found in Adobe Flash Player 10.2.159.1 and earlier which can cause the software to crash and potentially allow an attacker to take control of the affected system. In addition to Mac OS X, Flash Player 10.3 is available for Windows, Android, and Linux.

"In the past, Mac users often had trouble keeping up with Flash Player updates since the Mac OS and Flash Player ship schedules are not in sync," Adobe employees Peleus Uhley and Lindsey Wegrzyn wrote in an official blog post. "With this new feature, Flash Player will automatically check each week for new updates and notify the user when new updates are available. This feature matches the auto-update notification capability previously implemented on Microsoft Windows."

In addition to automatic update notifications, users will also be able to more easily clear locally saved files, also known as "Flash cookies," within a browser's privacy settings. The latest version also adds the ability to natively access streamlined controls for privacy, security and storage settings in any platform's local control panel. On a Mac, this can be found in System Preferences.

Other features of the update, according to Adobe, include:
Media measurement (desktop only) Measuring video usage just got easier. Using Adobe SiteCatalyst with Flash Player 10.3, developers can implement video analytics for websites with as little as two lines of code for the first time. Media Measurement for Flash Player allows companies to get real-time, aggregated reporting of how their video content is distributed, what their audience reach is, and how much video is played. Mobile support will be available in an upcoming release.
Acoustic echo cancellation (desktop only) With Flash Player 10.3, developers can create real-time online collaboration experiences with high-quality audio for telephony, in-game voice chat, and group conferencing applications. Developers can take advantage of acoustic echo cancellation, noise suppression, voice activity detection, and automatic compensation for various microphone input levels. End users will be able to experience higher quality audio facilitating smoother conversation flow, without using a headset.


The security of Flash has been a sticking point for Apple in an ongoing feud with Adobe, as the Cupertino, Calif., company has refused to allow Flash onto its iOS-based devices like the iPhone. Last October, Apple took the issue one step further and began shipping its Macs without Flash preinstalled.

Apple justified the change by stating that the move ensures that users will install the most up to date version of Flash when they set up their Mac. The company also revealed that Flash was responsible for more than half of the security vulnerabilities in Mac OS X.
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Apple, please buy Adobe and finally put a fatal bullet into this POS product. and throw out the bums running the company.
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They’ve gotten better at using resources on Mac OS but it’s still not very good. Plus, I really hate the archaic 8-bit-looking setting option they have when you right-click on Flash. Silverlight looks modern with native Aqua app interface. I’d rather see that than have a browser plug-in be sitting in my System Preferences.


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Apple, please buy Adobe and finally put a fatal bullet into this POS product. and throw out the bums running the company.

Apple, please don’t waste your money on Adobe.
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post #4 of 58
Did Adobe ever release a MBA specific version to not suck the battery dry?
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Thank you.

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Just what we need - a pop up reminder that we are using Adobe's POS.
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STILL doesn't tell my discrete graphics to kick in for the hardware acceleration, not that it should have to use so much power to run bog-standard video. The video on bbc.co.uk runs ok until you make it full screen and then it's jerky unless I turn off automatic graphics switching to make my MacBook Pro use the 330M.

It all ran fine before 10.1 with it's 'hardware acceleration'. Pathetic.

Add to that that BBC iPlayer (Adobe Air) can turn my MacBook Pro into a frying pan running HD content for a while. This is a laptop that runs Supreme Commander on full settings flawlessly...and then has to up it's game to play a Flash video!!
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They’ve gotten better at using resources on Mac OS but it’s still not very good. Plus, I really hate the archaic 8-bit-looking setting option they have when you right-click on Flash.

Add to that list the fact that on my 17" MBP (2010), when I put a video in fullscreen mode, it becomes very choppy. Doesn't happen on any other Mac I've used (with the same version of the Flash plugin), but really, it shouldn't happen at all.

UPDATE: Looks like the 10.3 update fixes it (finally).
 
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It would be nice to just not crash all the time.
I have one application whose developer just "upgraded" to Adobe AIR for their user interface. It doesn't work as well as the previous version, and sucks the life out of my Mac, until Flash finally crashes. They are also making their files incompatible with the previous versions, so you can't backtrack.
I am looking for alternatives.
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Acoustic echo cancellation (desktop only) – With Flash Player 10.3, developers can create real-time online collaboration experiences with high-quality audio for telephony, in-game voice chat, and group conferencing applications. Developers can take advantage of acoustic echo cancellation, noise suppression, voice activity detection, and automatic compensation for various microphone input levels. End users will be able to experience higher quality audio facilitating smoother conversation flow, without using a headset.

This the direction Flash should be going. Back to full featured applications that are far beyond the scope of HTML5. While Adobe has been the default video player for several years it has been mostly due to the fragmentation of browsers and video plugins. Unfortunately that baby sitting job must continue a while longer since Apple, Mozilla and Google are all headed in different directions regarding video playback.

I really want to see some wow factor applications built in Flash, stuff that can never be built in HTML so that it becomes clear what Flash should be used for. Too bad about mobile. Flash just needs too much juice for that platform.

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Flash crashes my Safari browser 5-10 time a day. I also love how Flash often takes 100% cpu time on a 2.7ghz I7. Worst program ever.

Flash needs to die. The faster the better.

Apple should buy Adobe just to make them stop making Flash.
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The best Flash security update is to simply uninstall it.

And while ClicktoFlash is a nice piece of software to block Flash content, it still leaves the websites you visit thinking that you ARE using Flash. So they have no incentive to stop using it themselves because they think you are still using it. Plus, most sites will simply serve you non-Flash versions of the content if you don't use ClicktoFlash. So you still get the full website content, while also informing them that you don't want Flash.
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Flash crashes my Safari browser 5-10 time a day. I also love how Flash often takes 100% cpu time on a 2.7ghz I7. Worst program ever.

Flash needs to die. The faster the better.

Apple should buy Adobe just to make them stop making Flash.

Safari might crash once per month if not far less often than that for me - and I have Flash installed like most everyone else.. I doubt Flash is bringing your computer down all by itself.
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The best Flash security update is to simply uninstall it.

And while ClicktoFlash is a nice piece of software to block Flash content, it still leaves the websites you visit thinking that you ARE using Flash. So they have no incentive to stop using it themselves because they think you are still using it. Plus, most sites will simply serve you non-Flash versions of the content if you don't use ClicktoFlash. So you still get the full website content, while also informing them that you don't want Flash.

If the developer gave a rat's ass whether or not you were blocking Flash they could easily do it.

In standard compliant browsers it’s pretty easy to check if a plug-in is installed. You use the navigator object and check the mimeTypes property.

Then just look for application/x-futuresplash which means you have Click2Flash

Not many sites will serve up HTML5 animations/applications as alternate content. As far as video is concerned the HTML5 <video> tag for Safari needs to be the first option in the list anyway (bug) so it has nothing to do with Click2Flash. If the video is properly coded you will get HTML5 version right off the bat.

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The best Flash security update is to simply uninstall it.

And while ClicktoFlash is a nice piece of software to block Flash content, it still leaves the websites you visit thinking that you ARE using Flash. So they have no incentive to stop using it themselves because they think you are still using it. Plus, most sites will simply serve you non-Flash versions of the content if you don't use ClicktoFlash. So you still get the full website content, while also informing them that you don't want Flash.

I find the best way is to disable Flash altogether and then specifically uninstall it. Most sites will then give you HTML 5 content.

Then enable Safari's Develop menu, and install a copy of Chrome (I know, but it won't burn your eyes to use it for the occasional webpage).

When you find the odd page that has inescapable Flash elements, simply go Develop > Open Page with ... and pick Chrome. The page opens instantly in Chrome and you can see the content, click off the window when you are done and go back to a proper browser.

Best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I find the best way is to disable Flash altogether and then specifically uninstall it. Most sites will then give you HTML 5 content.

Then enable Safari's Develop menu, and install a copy of Chrome (I know, but it won't burn your eyes to use it for the occasional webpage).

When you find the odd page that has inescapable Flash elements, simply go Develop > Open Page with ... and pick Chrome. The page opens instantly in Chrome and you can see the content, click off the window when you are done and go back to a proper browser.

Best of both worlds.

You can also drag and drop the favicon next to the URL in Safari to Chrome if its in your Dock to launch that site.
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Apple is too smart to waste its money doing something like that.

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Apple, please buy Adobe and finally put a fatal bullet into this POS product. and throw out the bums running the company.
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That is a good tip, I didn't know that. I just tried it out with the new version of Firefox, which I trust more then Chrome, and it works there as well.

However, I guess the previous posters method of uninstalling Flash wouldn't work using Firefox because Firefox relies on the same plugin as Safari uses, and Chrome has Flash built in.

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You can also drag and drop the favicon next to the URL in Safari to Chrome if its in your Dock to launch that site.
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This method is probably the best way of dealing with Flash. Flash blockers don't let the Flash using website know you don't want to use Flash.

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I find the best way is to disable Flash altogether and then specifically uninstall it. Most sites will then give you HTML 5 content.

Then enable Safari's Develop menu, and install a copy of Chrome (I know, but it won't burn your eyes to use it for the occasional webpage).

When you find the odd page that has inescapable Flash elements, simply go Develop > Open Page with ... and pick Chrome. The page opens instantly in Chrome and you can see the content, click off the window when you are done and go back to a proper browser.

Best of both worlds.
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This method is probably the best way of dealing with Flash. Flash blockers don't let the Flash using website know you don't want to use Flash.

It doesn't matter because any website using Flash for glitter is too stupid to even know or care how to detect what you are using and they certainly aren't going to take any specific action in response. Professional Flash application programmers are already well aware of every little detail. Whether you use a Flash blocker or not has no effect on how or why websites use Flash. If they are competent developers they are already way ahead you on that front.

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I have not tried to prove the following problem exists, but all of my family is still using our 2004/2005 Apple PowerBook computers. The following is a note I sent to my kids. If anyone else has heard of this problem, please confirm...

Hi guys,

We are still using our wonderful old Apple PowerBook laptop computers. These are the old ones from before the day when Apple starting using processors built by Intel. Intel processors have always been used in some Windows PCs, but Apple did NOT use them until about 2006. I have purposely enjoyed using the NON Intel processors because it might make us less vulnerable to any computer virus.

Unfortunately Adobe and Apple do not get along. Steve Jobs thinks Adobe's video player called Flash is slow, inefficient, wastes battery life, and opens newer Macs to virus problems. Adobe is releasing Flash 10.3 this week. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DOWNLOAD Adobe Flash 10.3.

The problem as I understand it is that Flash 10.1 was the last edition that will support our old Apple Mac products without the Intel processors. The rule for software companies is that they will support the current version of their software, and one version back. So as long as 10.2 was current, Adobe also supported 10.1. But now that 10.3 is available, 10.1 is no longer supported. But to make matters worse, if you try to download 10.3, Adobe will DELETE their version 10.1 from your system and you will have nothing from Adobe to play videos. I shall write that again...IF YOU TRY TO DOWNLOAD FLASH 10.3, ADOBE WILL DELETE THEIR VERSION 10.1 FROM YOUR SYSTEM AND YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING FROM ADOBE TO PLAY VIDEOS!

I am told that Flash version 10.2 was nice and polite and simply refused to load on our old NON Intel machines, but it allowed version 10.1 to remain. But because Adobe wants to support only the current version 10.3 and one version back (10.2), Adobe has made this 'planned obsolesce' decision to delete 10.1 and make it impossible for our old computers to play videos.

Okay, that should explain the problem as I understand it. I may be wrong, but the above scenario is what I have been led to believe...

Love,
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. I shall write that again...IF YOU TRY TO DOWNLOAD FLASH 10.3, ADOBE WILL DELETE THEIR VERSION 10.1 FROM YOUR SYSTEM AND YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING FROM ADOBE TO PLAY VIDEOS!

just go here to get old versions all the way back to Flash 2

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html

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I have had my MacBook Air for about 5 months now and I still haven't installed Flash!
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I just rebuilt my work system (Win7 64-bit)....

The very first website I browsed to after installation wanted to install Flash.

I refused. I will not install Flash on my work system.

Is it annoying going to websites only to see that 'Not all content may be available'? Sure.

But not as annoying as the almost DAILY update notifications for Flash.
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Damn. I guess I better find a way to remote manage Wyse thin clients to maintain HDX Flash mediastream compatibility for Citrix.

This is always a problem. The client and server must mactch versions for HDX to work...
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Don't wait for Adobe to get off their sweet asses. Delete your flash cookies now.
Go to http://www.macromedia.com/support/do...manager06.html
and click the "Delete all sites" button.
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Damn. I guess I better find a way to remote manage Wyse thin clients to maintain HDX Flash mediastream compatibility for Citrix.

This is always a problem. The client and server must mactch versions for HDX to work...

You must "love" Flash even more than the rest of us.
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Apple, please buy Adobe and finally put a fatal bullet into this POS product. and throw out the bums running the company.

I think Adobe should be given some credit. it would have been easy to dismiss the Apple platforms after Jobs' comments last year, but instead Flash on the Mac has improved dramatically.

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post #29 of 58
It's seems Adobe is trying hard to ingrain the worst of Microsoft's culture into their own, even as Microsoft begins to cross the 21st century line. "In the past, Mac users often had trouble keeping up with Flash Player" demonstrates the blinder mentality at the company as it seems everyone outside Adobe understands the huge deficiencies of Flash. I guess Windows users have no trouble keeping up with Flash because it requires an update EVERY OTHER DAY! And yes it does crash Safari, especially in Windows (I'm forced to use it at work).

Apple, please purchase Adobe but don't just fire the head honchos; make their software usable and affordable.
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Apple, please purchase Adobe but don't just fire the head honchos; make their software usable and affordable.

Why would Apple want to buy Adobe? That would be like tying a mill stone around their neck. If Apple was to buy Adobe they would be legally required to maintain the Windows version of CS and Acrobat. That is the last thing they want. Far better is to do what they did with Randy Ubillos, just hire the key personnel away from Adobe to help create competing products. I would love to see Thomas Knoll work for Apple, although I'm sure his contract is pretty restrictive.

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You must "love" Flash even more than the rest of us.

I don't love Flash but I really prefer video on sites like sportsillustrated.com and yahoo.com over the missing plug-in icon.
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They’ve gotten better at using resources on Mac OS but it’s still not very good. Plus, I really hate the archaic 8-bit-looking setting option they have when you right-click on Flash. Silverlight looks modern with native Aqua app interface. I’d rather see that than have a browser plug-in be sitting in my System Preferences.




Apple, please don’t waste your money on Adobe.

Do you know if it was the Adobe Flash updates last time around or a Mac OS update that broke the one and only useful product from Real, 'RealPlayer Downloader'? Any working alternatives around?
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Not many sites will serve up HTML5 animations/applications as alternate content.

I don't know what sites you go to, but I find this to be nearly completely incorrect. Granted, it's only been about a week since I've removed Flash, but other than static ads in places where it used to be annoying animated Flash garbage, nearly every site I visit looks the same. The only real difference is web pages loading much faster because they don't need to download all the Flash content.

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I find the best way is to disable Flash altogether and then specifically uninstall it. Most sites will then give you HTML 5 content.

Then enable Safari's Develop menu, and install a copy of Chrome (I know, but it won't burn your eyes to use it for the occasional webpage).

When you find the odd page that has inescapable Flash elements, simply go Develop > Open Page with ... and pick Chrome. The page opens instantly in Chrome and you can see the content, click off the window when you are done and go back to a proper browser.

Best of both worlds.

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That is a good tip, I didn't know that. I just tried it out with the new version of Firefox, which I trust more then Chrome, and it works there as well.

However, I guess the previous posters method of uninstalling Flash wouldn't work using Firefox because Firefox relies on the same plugin as Safari uses, and Chrome has Flash built in.

Perhaps not for Firefox, but apparently OmniWeb and iCab can have their own copy of Flash separate from Safari. So you can uninstall it from Safari but have it for other browsers if you don't like Google/Chrome's autoupdate mechanism.

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/remov...mac/#continued
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I don't know what sites you go to, but I find this to be nearly completely incorrect. Granted, it's only been about a week since I've removed Flash, but other than static ads in places where it used to be annoying animated Flash garbage, nearly every site I visit looks the same. The only real difference is web pages loading much faster because they don't need to download all the Flash content.





Perhaps not for Firefox, but apparently OmniWeb and iCab can have their own copy of Flash separate from Safari. So you can uninstall it from Safari but have it for other browsers if you don't like Google/Chrome's autoupdate mechanism.

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/remov...mac/#continued

ClicktoFlash is by far the best option for keeping Flash out of the way unless absolutely needed.
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I don't know what sites you go to, but I find this to be nearly completely incorrect. Granted, it's only been about a week since I've removed Flash, but other than static ads in places where it used to be annoying animated Flash garbage, nearly every site I visit looks the same. The only real difference is web pages loading much faster because they don't need to download all the Flash content.

I would not consider a static ad or rotating animated gif to be alternate HTML5 content but granted I had not considered ads at all when I made my post. I don't see any ads whatsoever since installing Ghostery.

I was referring to the rather rare inclusion of HTML5 interactive application elements as a conditional content delivery along with traditional Flash applications with equivalent features. If there actually was such a thing then you would think that the developers would automatically send the HTML5 content if the browser was capable where your assessment is that they default to Flash instead even if the browser is capable of HTML5.

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Another great update from Adobe - they are also promising JSON support in future versions.

If they keep up this pace of development and quality, I think a lot of companies will see little reason to change their entire workflows and invest in the training required for staff to be able to produce the same results using alternative technologies such as HTML5 and CSS3.
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This the direction Flash should be going. Back to full featured applications that are far beyond the scope of HTML5. While Adobe has been the default video player for several years it has been mostly due to the fragmentation of browsers and video plugins. Unfortunately that baby sitting job must continue a while longer since Apple, Mozilla and Google are all headed in different directions regarding video playback.

I really want to see some wow factor applications built in Flash, stuff that can never be built in HTML so that it becomes clear what Flash should be used for. Too bad about mobile. Flash just needs too much juice for that platform.

Flash works fine on my Droid 2 Global and my MacBook Pro from last year in terms of battery. Although it needs the NVIDIA card on to run video smoothly on OS X, which seems like a bug or design flaw.

And it does crash a lot on MacOS and Android.

mstone great point about being the video player of choice. I agree, Flash is wasteful when playing video and it would be nice if Google/MS/Apple/Mozilla would cooperate with a video codec. In fact, I would say QuickTime used to be the solution before Microsoft fudged it all up with their crappy Windows Media junk and monopolistic behavior. Honestly it would be nice for QT to just be the standard, but MS will never accept that. Also it would be awesome to have QT on Android. Not sure whether Apple won't release it to punish Google, or what.

Also you make a good point that Flash is capable of a lot more than HTML5 and is much easier to design for currently. Flash produces apps that just work. At least, when the Player is behaving.
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ClicktoFlash is by far the best option for keeping Flash out of the way unless absolutely needed.

+1 more vote for ClickToFlash. While I love what Flash can do, I sure hate Flash ads!
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Just what we need - a pop up reminder that we are using Adobe's POS.

Exactly. Java and Flash notifications are seriously annoying on windows. I don't want that on my Mac.
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Perhaps not for Firefox, but apparently OmniWeb and iCab can have their own copy of Flash separate from Safari. So you can uninstall it from Safari but have it for other browsers if you don't like Google/Chrome's autoupdate mechanism.

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Thank you for that link, I had taken Flash off my computer completely using Chrome when I had to see something in Flash, but found Chrome more annoying than Flash could be. Thanks to this link, I now have OmiWeb as the only browser running Flash. It is amazing that Flash makes Silverlight seem like a god-send (html 5 video works best, but we know that it isn't everywhere just yet), so Silverlight is currently the plugin that is superior for video. FWTW I have taken Flash off of all the websites I create (have 30+ clients), don't miss it a bit. Just was contacted by someone who wanted their website that was totally in Flash to be updated. I looked at their site on my iPad2, it was completely a black screen. I did tell them that I don't work with Flash anymore and if they want it ported to html 5 to call me, otherwise I couldn't help them.
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