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Verizon says it will get Apple's 'iPhone 5' at same time as AT&T

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Verizon on Thursday said it will institute capped data plans for customers this summer much like its rival AT&T did last year, and also that it will receive Apple's fifth-generation iPhone at the same time as its competition.

Speaking with Reuters at the Global Technology Summit, Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo said his company will offer the next iPhone at the same time as AT&T. He also said the device will work in "as many countries as AT&T's iPhone," suggesting the next-generation handset will, as rumored, be a world phone with both GSM and CDMA connectivity.

It was also Shammo who previously said in April that the next iPhone would include both GSM and CDMA integrated radios. Verizon's network relies on CDMA technology, while AT&T is based on the globally more common GSM standard.

Since Apple's partnership with Verizon was announced earlier this year, Shammo has been the source of a few Apple-related details. In January, he revealed that the iPad 2, before it was announced, would have a separate model with an integrated CDMA radio for compatibility with Verizon's network.

Shammo also said his company has been pleased with initial sales of the iPhone 4, and spoke about the possibility of a 4G long-term evolution capable iPhone in the fifth-generation hardware version. He suggested the company is not concerned about whether the so-called "iPhone 5" will support LTE.

"I think it's a bigger issue for Apple than it is for us," he reportedly said. "Depending on where Apple plays, that's where we'll sell."

Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo

Finally, Shammo also reiterated the fact that his company plans to cease offering unlimited data plans for users of smartphones like the iPhone this summer. Those pricing changes are set to take place this summer, and will eliminate the current unlimited offerings with a tiered pricing structure.
post #2 of 26
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It'd be nice if the iPhone went to other carriers as well so they would battle over lower costs on plans. I feel like paying an additional $50 for unlimited texting and internet on top of the plan with the minimum amount of minutes is a little bit much.
post #3 of 26
So... Sometime in 2012?
"Why iPhone"... Hmmm?
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post #4 of 26
I'm glad to see unlimited plans go because they never existed in the first place, so someone was always going to get shafted or disappointed or whatever.

Unfortunately, there seems to be so much passive collusion between the carriers, in terms of avoiding a price war, that they will just take the opportunity to overprice for tiered plans.

I would like to see content-agnostic, fine-grained pay per packet - say per megabyte.. I have no issues with carriers making a profit, but I want to pay for the proportion that I use and not be pushed into a plan in which I have to pay for things I don't use then get over-billed for going slightly over for the things I do.

Then, if someone really wants to stream a movie over a mobile network then they can pay for that all fair and square.

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post #5 of 26
So, the next Verizon iPhone still won't be able to multitask (voice/data). Not a very "smart" smartphone.
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I've said it before here...I hope Sprint gets the iPhone and offers their unlimited plan at $79. I will sell my iP4 and pay ATT's cancellation fee just to be rid of ATT.

I would never go to Verizon, either! This $120/mo is killing me!
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I've said it before here...I hope Sprint gets the iPhone and offers their unlimited plan at $79. I will sell my iP4 and pay ATT's cancellation fee just to be rid of ATT.

I would never go to Verizon, either! This $120/mo is killing me!

I love my iPhone 3GS, but I am tired of AT&T. I had to fight to get my "unlimited" plan back after they told me it wasn't possible. RIIIGHT. Buy a 2G iPhone and AT&T must give you an unlimited plan since that is the only plan on the 2G iPhone...then just move to a newer phone. Poof! Instant unlimited plan on the 3GS. But I digress.

I think I am ready to move back to Sprint. After 2 years with AT&T I have had it with their spotty coverage...and I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area - their home office!!!! I will just sell my iPhone 3GS and just get an iPod Touch for my apps and facetime/skype. The smartphone rat race is just getting old.
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I love my iPhone 3GS, but I am tired of AT&T. I had to fight to get my "unlimited" plan back after they told me it wasn't possible. RIIIGHT. Buy a 2G iPhone and AT&T must give you an unlimited plan since that is the only plan on the 2G iPhone...then just move to a newer phone. Poof! Instant unlimited plan on the 3GS. But I digress.

I think I am ready to move back to Sprint. After 2 years with AT&T I have had it with their spotty coverage...and I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area - their home office!!!! I will just sell my iPhone 3GS and just get an iPod Touch for my apps and facetime/skype. The smartphone rat race is just getting old.

I understand Lamewing. I thought of getting the Touch or just a dumb phone with a wifi iPad2. But then I'm carrying 2 things around.

I have a lot invested in my iP4. As a Real Estate Agent, I upgraded my 3Gs for the flash and better camera (40% more bat. life) on the iP4 and bought the Tom-Tom GPS App ($40) and now my eKey (the key to open lockboxes), plus the built in video camera are all on my iP4 which is great! I don't have to remember/forget, charge, update (no ugly pwr bricks/cables) for 4-6 electronic pieces of equipment. I.e., Stand alone GPS unit, Camera, Video camera, iPod, eKey. Plus i can text on the iP4.

I just hate the $120 to ATT. It's like I'm in parallel dimensions, the bills come around blazingly fast but the income checks are few and far btwn! Ugh!

PS. The iP4 has enabled me to stop carrying my MB for about 95% of the time, too!

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post #9 of 26
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So, the next Verizon iPhone still won't be able to multitask (voice/data). Not a very "smart" smartphone.

True.... but that's due to a limitation in the network itself... and it's been like that since... forever.

Still though... where I live... most of the business phones I see are through Verizon.

I guess that says something about the network strength itself. You can't do both voice and data at the same time... but when you need to do either... Verizon's got you covered.
post #10 of 26
And when it happens I will be glad to move to AT&T where the rest of my family, friends and colleagues currently reside. I'm still waiting for the 4th generation of iPhone to be over, but for now I'll focus on the iPad family.
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

So... Sometime in 2012?

The fifth generation iPhone is supposedly going to be released in September of this year, according to many rumors on the Internet.
post #12 of 26
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So, the next Verizon iPhone still won't be able to multitask (voice/data). Not a very "smart" smartphone.

Can a GSM phone work on an LTE network? I know it works the other way around, an LTE phone will work on a GSM network. But if the next iPhone has both CDMA and GSM, couldn't the Verizon phone use it's GSM radio on Verizon's LTE network? Or does it not work that way? Then use the CDMA radio when LTE isn't available. That would solve the simultaneous voice/data issue and also give better overall coverage in the US than ATT can provide.

Then again, give me a Verizon iPhone with their CDMA and an unlocked GSM component and I'd be a happy camper when travelling overseas. I know, never going to happen.
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Nah, the point here is that the upcoming iPhone won't have an LTE chip: the handset won't have access to any LTE network from AT&T, Verizon, whatever LTE carrier (it has been deployed in a few countries).
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So... Sometime in 2012?

Likely September, 2011
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Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

I've said it before here...I hope Sprint gets the iPhone and offers their unlimited plan at $79. I will sell my iP4 and pay ATT's cancellation fee just to be rid of ATT.

I would never go to Verizon, either! This $120/mo is killing me!

FierceTelecom is rumoring that CenturyTel is looking to buy out Sprint. They just merged with Qwest.

You really want to put your money into that mess?

I'm stuck with Qwest for ADSL because I can't get Verizon FiOS and I won't touch Comcast.
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I read an article awhile back mentioning a new chip capable of simultaneous voice/data over a CDMA network. I think they called it SV-DO. Can they not implement this in the next gen iPhone, or would that just not work with the world mode chip their adding?
post #17 of 26
It's good to hear that we'll be getting a simultaneous launch. I just hope we won't have to wait a year for the white iPhone 5.

PS, is it me or does Shammo have eyes like an Anime character?
post #18 of 26
Every stinking wireless carriers promoted unlimited this n that but after they finally get an iPhone, it's cap this n that. Sprint gonna be next!
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I read an article awhile back mentioning a new chip capable of simultaneous voice/data over a CDMA network. I think they called it SV-DO. Can they not implement this in the next gen iPhone, or would that just not work with the world mode chip their adding?

It would also require some upgrades to the network itself. Supposedly it's a relatively minor upgrade, but would Verizon invest any money in upgrading it's CDMA network?
post #20 of 26
OMG. Fran Shammo's yearbook photo.

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"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

So... Sometime in 2012?

Your posts lack a certain impact without your usual photos.

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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

The fifth generation iPhone is supposedly going to be released in September of this year, according to many rumors on the Internet.

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Originally Posted by lizardhowson View Post

Likely September, 2011

Don't waste your time explaining anything to him.
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Nah, the point here is that the upcoming iPhone won't have an LTE chip: the handset won't have access to any LTE network from AT&T, Verizon, whatever LTE carrier (it has been deployed in a few countries).

In 2011, <soup nazi>NO LTE FOR YOU!</soup nazi>
post #23 of 26
OK, a little shocked here.

Until recently I havent read much about apple at all (Linux and Android fanboy), except for stock value, so was not aware that they did not have a "world-mode" phone. I didn't think single region phones existed any more.

Could be interesting to see what effect this has on apples enterprise adoptions. As most big companies have thousands of people flying all over the world at any moment, this limitation must have held the iPhone back. This could give it a much bigger chunk of the multi-national enterprise market.
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OK, a little shocked here.

Until recently I havent read much about apple at all (Linux and Android fanboy), except for stock value, so was not aware that they did not have a "world-mode" phone. I didn't think single region phones existed any more.

Could be interesting to see what effect this has on apples enterprise adoptions. As most big companies have thousands of people flying all over the world at any moment, this limitation must have held the iPhone back. This could give it a much bigger chunk of the multi-national enterprise market.

Don't worry, there isn't enough iPhone 4 to go around the world anyways so Apple's not really "losing sales" as such.

Also, the issue is not that iPhone 4 is "single-region" (whatever that means), the GSM model covers over a hundred countries. Most GSM Android, Nokias and BB don't also cover CDMA countries.

Could you provide more info on which countries *can't* use the iPhone where a commonly available GSM Android, Nokia or BB can be used? Aren't most Android phones from Verizon CDMA and can't be used in most countries in the world? How many US Android phones can be used with China Mobile's homegrown CDMA? Can you use a US LTE phone on China's LTE?
post #25 of 26
It would be nice to see AT&T have roll-over MBs the way they do with roll-over minutes. Then again that was a Cingulair thing - and I would imagine there are folks at AT&T who would like to get rid of that.

It is disappointing to see Verizon take the Me Too approach - hey those guys over at AT&T dropped unlimited plans so they can charge more - let's do that too. Instead of a more progressive approach - where they could use unlimited plans as an incentive to take customers away from AT&T. To me that would seem the better approach - we heard so many whining for so long about how they would drop AT&T in a heartbeat when Verizon offers the iPhone - but oh wait, you cannot talk and use data link at the same time (which I do) - so what else have you got to offer to make me switch?

At my home office - the difference in signal strength between AT&T and Verizon is minimal - they both suck monkey balls - so I got a Microcell - not sure if Verizon even offers that, do they?
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Wait, I have an iPhone 4 through Verizon and we have both the unlimited data and text messaging.. How does this effect our contract and whatnot? Hmm... a bit confused.


You'll have unlimited data and text messaging with Verizon through the end of your contract and will continue to have unlimited data and messaging until you upgrade, or try to make a change to your contract. If Verizon changes the terms of your contract before the date the contract was due to end (for example they take away your unlimited data before your contract ended) then Verizon terminated your contract with them by breaching the terms and conditions. So you could either leave them without having to pay an early termination fee, or you can simply demand they give you your data and messaging back before you jump ship somewhere else
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