[QUOTE=TBell;1867440]When I criticize China it has nothing to do with the people. It is a statement against the government. People there are a commodity. That is not a generalization. China doesn't believe in what we as a Country believe. In China the government thinks it is OK to kill people for exercising expression. As such, your bigot comment is out of line.
Honestly this is something our country should look into.
China's system is fine if that is what Chinese people want, but our government shouldn't be forcing Americans to compete with a system that undervalues our own values.
While something's need to be addressed protectionism isn't the answer. In many ways our coronet problems relate directly to our ability to compete. Interestingly there is a lot of talk right now about our inability graduate engineers from college. Unfortunately about half the country is a bunch of liberal elitist that expect somebody else to do the work for them.
Further, I have been to China. I worked in the clothing industry for many years. One of my many jobs was to inspect factories to check the quality of the output. You are correct. In the US, you can find some horrible factories (at least in the clothing manufacturing industry). They are all operating in violation of pretty much every US labor law. Ironically, the workers in these factories are all illegal immigrants who came here for better conditions.
So you let it slide?
In the companies defense, these types of factories here are forced to use illegal workers to compete with the foreign factories because illegal workers are the the only ones desperate enough to be treated so miserably by being paid so little. For example, one factory I had the pleasure of inspecting hired illegal Chinese immigrants. They worked over twelve hours days, six days a week, with a half hour break, for a fixed daily rate. The workers had no health care coverage, and the factories did away with standard safety equipment. The Company would be out of business if it tried to pay somebody minimum wage and compete with an actual Chinese Company. Sadly enough the workers in these factories would say this type of arrangement was better then the actual Chinese factories, which unfortunately I know to be true.
When was the last time you heard of employees in a major US factory committing suicide in large numbers? Enough said.
Sadly it happens but at least we don't make the mistake of blaming the company. Even the little outfit I worked for has had unfortunate suicides. One woman put a gun to her head and blew out her brains right in front of her kids, on guy hanged himself, the son of another employee hanged himself in her garage and the list goes on. Nobody blamed the company because the company wasn't there with a rope. In fact in some cases they tried to intervene, but there is really little one can do these days for the mentally I'll, the depressed or those otherwise affected.
Beyond that many accidents happen in the USA every day. However no body blames Apple. The mentality here is a bit like blaming the local electrician for a death in a copper mine on the other side of the country. It is the mentality of blaming everybody and anyone we can instead of actually ring to improve things.
On another note many here are appalled at the idea of humor in this context. That is a bit misplaced as it is a common coping mechanism used by ambulance and fire crews. I once had a discussion with a fire chief about this, they even have a term for it which escapes me now. The point is humor can be a coping mechanism for some very ugly things. Sometimes even humor doesn't cut it which is why other support mechanisms are in place. The fact is if you respond to a call where some motor cycle rider splattered himself across the front yard of several houses you are not going to have a good day, it may take days to shake it off.