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Democratic Governor of Tennessee, Steve Beshear, has approved $43 million of tax breaks for a company to build a creationist theme park called "The Ark Encounter." This comes at a time when Tennessee's budget has been in crisis for three years running, cutting social services and education. Yet, $43 million dollars is totally available to make a Bible theme park.

Steve Beshear is an ignorant twat and should be tossed out of office.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/2...nter-park.html


I'll call out the Dems when they do wrong. Yet, watch how quickly the righties here jumped to the defense of the tea party threats against a 16 year girl who challenged Michelle Bachman to a debate. Despicable partisanship.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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post #2 of 11
Indeed this is a stupid thing to do.

I would argue that the state of Tennessee should simply reduce their government spending and then reduce taxes for everyone so that special tax breaks aren't necessary to make the place a more attractive business environment (for one special interest.)

The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

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The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

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post #3 of 11
I am quite displeased with most all government leaders the country over. There seems to be a complete lack of accountability by the leaders to their constituents. I don't particularly favor any leader right now. If you look long enough at a leader or someone running in an election as a candidate it is only a matter of time before one becomes less than impressed with said person.

Our government is bloated, broke, unaccountable, irresponsible, unethical, and just plain wasteful of resources. For decades our "leaders" have just kicked fiscal issues down the road to the next "leader" for them to address. Often times these issues are never truly addressed and things only become more unstable. We have a manipulated "free market" that is tinkered with on a massive scale by way of entities such as USDA and their manipulation of corn and soy markets. Need I even mention the banking sector or the DoD? We have special interests of every stripe making their case to our "leaders" and sometimes these special interests get their way with our "leaders" while for most of us "we the people" we just get more broken government and a legacy of waste by and from our government.

In the mean time our country has decided that work is not all that valuable. We buy the cheapest imports many times with no concern that "we used to make things" in this country.

I think some of the decay we see in our society is attributed to both left and right wing elements.


I don't believe in some polar false choice of Socialist vs Ayn Rand viewpoints. I think we all need to realize our priorities and work to enhance not just our lives but others in our communities and to enhance the lives of yet others across the globe for that matter.

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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

I'll call out the Dems when they do wrong. Yet, watch how quickly the righties here jumped to the defense of the tea party threats against a 16 year girl who challenged Michelle Bachman to a debate. Despicable partisanship.

You're aware that not agreeing with you isn't a synonym for defend.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #5 of 11
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Democratic Governor of Tennessee, Steve Beshear, has approved $43 million of tax breaks for a company to build a creationist theme park called "The Ark Encounter." This comes at a time when Tennessee's budget has been in crisis for three years running, cutting social services and education. Yet, $43 million dollars is totally available to make a Bible theme park.

Steve Beshear is an ignorant twat and should be tossed out of office.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/2...nter-park.html


I'll call out the Dems when they do wrong. Yet, watch how quickly the righties here jumped to the defense of the tea party threats against a 16 year girl who challenged Michelle Bachman to a debate. Despicable partisanship.

Both parties stink!
post #6 of 11
I pulled up this website today and laughed out loud when I saw what the site said regarding the per person price for "Hot dog with all the fixins"

I mean I know there is markup and then there is markup but gee....

It made for a good laugh none the less.

http://www.arbucklewilderness.com/hours.htm

And it is not like this place is NYC or LA selling grass fed organic beef etc. These guys are likely selling the hotdogs found at the local wal-mart for 88 cents a package.

I suppose they could sell them for far less if they had a tax break ! Damn...

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Share your smile, Have respect for others, and be loving to all peoples

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Share your smile, Have respect for others, and be loving to all peoples

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post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

Democratic Governor of Tennessee, Steve Beshear, has approved $43 million of tax breaks for a company to build a creationist theme park called "The Ark Encounter." This comes at a time when Tennessee's budget has been in crisis for three years running, cutting social services and education. Yet, $43 million dollars is totally available to make a Bible theme park.

Steve Beshear is an ignorant twat and should be tossed out of office.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/2...nter-park.html


I'll call out the Dems when they do wrong. Yet, watch how quickly the righties here jumped to the defense of the tea party threats against a 16 year girl who challenged Michelle Bachman to a debate. Despicable partisanship.

Not sure I agree with targeted tax breaks of this nature, but I disagree with your premise. If tax breaks like this are available in general, why should this one be denied? Because it's bible-themed? There are real 1st and 14th Amendment problems with that. It's discrimination on religious grounds. Let me ask you...would you support such a tax credit for Arabian/Muslim-themed park? How about Jewish? How about Atheist?

The issue here is that the pendulum of the 1st Amendment has swung completely to one side. The 1st Amendment was never intended to banish all religion from the public square. It existed for two reasons: 1) To allow for freedom of worship, and 2) To prevent Congress (and later, the States) from establishing an official religion, such as was the case in Great Britain. What you fail to understand here is that denying a tax credit on religious grounds is as bad as promoting a single religion exclusively at the government level.
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post #8 of 11
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Disagree. The public should not be funding religious indoctrination camps of any denomination. Especially when times are as tough as they are now and cuts to public education have already been made.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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post #9 of 11
You still haven't been able to explain how the absence of government theft (taxation) is the same as government funding (subsidies), BR.

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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post #10 of 11
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Given my premise that red isn't a color and no matter what you say, I will never believe it is, prove that red is a color.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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post #11 of 11
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You still haven't been able to explain how the absence of government theft (taxation) is the same as government funding (subsidies), BR.

This is a good point.

also worth mention:

If every worker that is employed by this potential employer lives in a dwelling and each dwelling in turn results in property tax being collected for the state be it owned by the occupant or rented / leased (in which case the landlord pays but it is essentially built into the rent) these property taxes could lend to the goal of increased funding for education / schools / hospitals etc.

Ohhh but wait....

This thing is Bible based.... I see where BR is bent out of shape now.

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