Originally Posted by danv2
This is garbage. MS is flailing at this point. Feeble attempts at announcing something more than a year and a half away...the UI makes no damn sense. Its confusing, does not blend with the Windows 7 UI at all, and what's worse they are trying to convince people "apps" are just web sites. If you have to tell me "this blends well with Windows desktop" and show the ACTUAL Windows desktop ONCE in the whole damn demonstration; you're flatly lying to me and everyone else.
There's nothing of use in this whole damn OS beyond legacy software. If flipping through a bunch of idiotic tiles is useful then the "ribbon" fits in well w/ this blunder as class A 1 great crap.
Billions of dollars are being wasted on this company, and its angering me. The money could be used to do so much more like building a gold house for Ballmer, curing cancer, making a giant Master Chief statue made of silly putty. But no, alas, here we are watching some pasty bald dude from the last decade talk about a "collage" of ideas. Yeah, the talent has left the company like D.E.D. stated.
Fun idea: stop trying to mimic your enemies with crap ass catch up and half-assed touch UIs. Develop what you got and stop trying "unify" the damn planet. How about making your mobile platform stand up on its own two legs first before cramming it into "big boy shoes" like some bad parent?
Either way; no one will remember this garbage after next week.
In closing: too much crap.
Geez. Cranky much? </kidding!!> I agree with you for the most part!
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Microsoft product users are a fairly uncritical lot when it comes to usability, so the poor, beaten down masses will glom onto this like a pitbull on peanut butter.
With a deep sigh, I have to agree with you. Windows users have come to accept malware, buggy, crashy software, security vulnerabilities, etc. as part of the "reality" of the computing experience. I actually had someone tell me several years ago that Macs aren't "real" computers, because they don't get viruses!!
Originally Posted by snova
- "Thumbs" keyboard. I hope Apple does something like this for the iPad. Its unpleasant to use the existing soft keyboard on the iPad. I prefer the iPhone keyboard over the iPad due to the ergonomic issue.
I feel like I'm blaspheming to say this (gosh, me
giving kudos to a Microsoft development? say it ain't so!!!), but the thumb keyboard is pretty genius. In the video, the guy talked about how the standard on-screen keyboard takes up too much space. Decent point. A better justification for a "thumb" keyboard is, as you suggested, ergonomics: it works better with the way you hold your tablet. With the current on-screen keyboard design (which is what the iPad has), the most viable way to use it is to have the tablet in your lap or on a desk or other flat surface. If you're sitting on a train or a bus, you can't easily secure your tablet (well, there's always a couple inverted loops of duct tape, but then there's that gummy, sticky mess afterward, and what a pain that is!!) while you're typing. The bus hits a big bump, or brakes suddenly, and your tablet goes flying. With the "thumb" keyboard, you necessarily have to grip the device securely by the lower corners in order to thumb-type. And muscle memory will make thumb-typing very easy to do after not too long.
- Is there a style guide for the new touch oriented app SDK? Or will it just be the wild wild west free for all?
I would not be surprised if Microsoft jumps on the "Open vs Closed" bandwagon, and in order to set themselves apart, they'll paint Apple as "closed" and "draconian", while Win8 is "open"
and, "hey look, a pony!!"
- Multitasking. Not sure how average consumers will actually want more then one apps on the screen at the same time. I only really do this for cut-n-paste operations personally. As long as the task switching is efficient and cut and paste work well, I dot really need to have more then one app visible at the same time. Battery life concerns of turning multiple apps at the same time.
The trouble with free-for-all multitasking is, it will basically encourage users to leave a gazillion applications open and running, which will over-tax the processor, memory and virtual memory, and will kill battery life. And, similar to what you said, I think the average user will get confused with all the applications running, and lose track of what it was they were trying to do.
Originally Posted by ascii
The only really new ideas I saw there were the idea of app icons being huge and live, and the way you can have multiple full-screen apps on screen at once by squashing them side by side. Everything else I have already seen on other products. But it's still good to see Microsoft trying to shake things up.
The trouble with "shaking things up" is the average Windroid* user. I'm a full-fledged Mac user, and avoid Windows as much as possible(and I wash my hands afterward!</snark>) The only time I use Windows is when I'm helping someone with their
computer. The question I get most often is: "I saved the file, now where is it?" And that's with XP, which has been around for what, nearly 10 years? What I expect when Win8 launches is, users will turn on their computer, and will see the weather thingy and sports scores and a couple photos, and they'll say, "WHERE THE HELL IS MY GRANT PROPOSAL???" And they'll call ME
in a panic, because they can't find the budget report which is due tomorrow!!!
* this is kind of off-topic, but I said "Windroid" because I'm gonna guess that a lot of Windows users reflexively will choose Android devices because, like my one friend, they'll erroneously assume that you have to have a Mac in order to use an iOS device (not true!)