Originally Posted by Jexus
No, we hate dependency.
Fine. But what does that have to do with deriding new users, extolling them to read the man pages (if there ever was a deserving ring of purgatory...), trawl through forums and piece together the answer themselves because like, what are you STUPID or something?
I never understood that about the vast majority of the open source community. If you don't want to lead a newbie by the hand why can't you just ignore them? Why do you have to deride them or come up with web sites
that point out how much more clever you are than them?
If that's your attitude what the hell are you doing trolling places where people are asking questions? If you think that website is funny, clearly you lack basic social skills and belong nowhere near "newbs".
We could care less about a company increasing user accessibility
Ding Ding Ding! That's why OpenSource will never evolve beyond the realm of science fair project.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. However, you can't have your cake and eat it too. It's not reasonable to get mad at people for not using your software (even if it is "clearly" superior
) or subscribing to your philosophy when you are basically holding them in utter contempt
that would be like arguing that you should go learn to sodder wires if you want to fix your fan's electrical circuit instead of hiring the electric repair man.
How about just replacing the fan? With todays economics thats far more reasonable. Appliance/black box. It is our world, for better or worse. That's a more applicable analogy.
I love Google, but I give them almost nothing because no company can be trusted with such information on an honesty basis, a phone # that's all they have.
So you have no bank accounts, health insurance or credit cards?
You did say "no company"
What about government? File taxes, have any vehicles registered, own any property?
How absurd do we have to be here?
What we DO care about is the learning curve. There HAS to be one.
Why? Because only the "worthy" should be allowed to use technology?
What a bunch of elitist popycock. No wonder Apple gets under über geek skin so easily and thoroughly - how dare they open the hallowed halls to the commoners!
It doesn't have to be as hard as certain Linux distros, but if you simplify everything TOO much then the user becomes helpless to any problem that they were never expecting to encounter.
Wow - if we were in the 1700's you probably would be arguing people shouldn't be able to ride horses without knowing how to shoe them.
What we want is self-sufficiency if even at the bare minimum of tasks.
What you want is absurd. And (thank god) irrelevant.
Hey - change your own oil? Its ridiculously easy - users should be able to be self-sufficent at a bare minimum of tasks.
And this is rational to you? Sadly it must be because we go into the rabbit hole deeper:
If it becomes too simple minded of a task then we get situations that could easily be avoided.
Yes! Like having the commoners fondling our technology. The horrors!
The little scareware incident with MACguard was the perfect example. You could visit loads of forums that would have told you to not install it, and to get rid of it to just uninstall it like an app. The average user was not taught this, so they freaked out, and hoped that someone would save them. They were helpless trying to get to every source of info as possible. We don't like THIS.
Neither do non-technical users. Which is why within 5 years (maybe sooner now with iOS 5 not having PC dependancies) iOS devices will displace general purpose PC's for most normal users. iOS is inherently immune to the issue you cite. And even if something like a trojan gets through, unlike on general purpose OS's Apple (and google!) can - gasp - pull the offending program
Wow - they can undo the "lusers" from shooting themselves in the foot. Like it or not, that's far more reasonable - some people are never going to learn "basic skills" you want. Not because they are stupid or lazy, but because they have different priorities.
If you need the difficulty to go down a notch then fine, but there has to be a point where we have to say, "it's simple enough, get up and learn or go do something else."
Your hubris is staggering. Again, thank god there is at least ONE company that is willing to call your elitist BS for what it is, ignore it and go on making technology accessible.
Anyway, let me bottom line it for you: Whether you like it or not, iOS is the future for the majority of users. Your days of control and "wants" are over. You can continue to rant and rail about worthiness and minimum skills all you want, but it won't have one whits of affect. Feel free to carry on - just be prepared for continued and increasing disappointment when reality continues to diverge from your vision.