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Originally Posted by Jetz View Post

Oh please. iFanboys constantly laugh at Android users for loving notifications and widgets, but now that iOS has it, nobody cares?

That said. I applaud Apple for catching up. This is no small issue for usability. Once those pop-ups disappear you'll finally understand what we've been talking about.



I dislike Samsung precisely because their Android devices look to iPhone/iPad-ish.

But that said, Apple just blatantly ripped off lockscreen notifications from Samsung's Android Touchwiz UI.

Exactly. Hit the nail on the head. Now that iOS has it, iFanboys won't care. It's no longer something Android users are STUPID for liking, but rather something Apple revolutionized rofl

Seriously, look at all the people who said they didn't need copy and paste, then when it came out, they said it was revolutionary (even though it was exactly as MS announced.)

What I'm saying is the only people crying about who's copying who on little things like this are morons. I should have said "Nobody with half a brain cares"
post #42 of 212
Another BIG step forward for Apple.

Iphone(ios)

Ipad

ICloud

Wireless sync, etc. Post PC ..


Superior notifications are what kept me holding on to my Android devices.. this may have been the last nail. Way to go Apple for not being afraid to adopt.

Anyone know if toggles are included in the notifications tray a la SBS settings?
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Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy View Post

Any reason why Apple is holding off until Fall for this iOS-5 release. The least they could do is offer it now since they are not offering a new iPhone. I watched the live feed on AI and was excited, only to see the "oh wait" bomb at the end telling us it wouldn't be released until Fall. It seems ready to go, and to me I feel that Apple is holding off on the release just to create buzz when we deserve it now.

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One (of millions) Unhappy (and impatient), Loyal Customer

Because that's when the iPhone 5 is going to be released?

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post #44 of 212
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Excellent point. There's some things that there's just not a better way of handling. The biggest difference to me? Google won't sue anyone because it looks or works similar to Android.

Google is the least dangerous to Apple in terms of actually going to sue. Since Android itself is under the GNU license, Google won't really have a case unless Apple specifically steals code or specific functions from proprietary apps.

If I was Apple I would be checking the crowd for HTC and Samsung personnel, Which CAN sue on the base of their OEM skins which are not by default bare Android.
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Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy View Post

Any reason why Apple is holding off until Fall for this iOS-5 release. The least they could do is offer it now since they are not offering a new iPhone. I watched the live feed on AI and was excited, only to see the "oh wait" bomb at the end telling us it wouldn't be released until Fall. It seems ready to go, and to me I feel that Apple is holding off on the release just to create buzz when we deserve it now.

Sincerely,

One (of millions) Unhappy (and impatient), Loyal Customer

So the developers can make the apps rock on the new OS and so it's rock solid.
post #46 of 212
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

You think that's amusing - try tallying up all the phones using multitouch all of a sudden.

lol, you can't.

Apple did not invent multi touch, they popularized it. They have a patent for it, but where not the first to dabble in the tech.
post #47 of 212
I'm ready to download the developer beta right now.

-Wifi Syncing
-OTA updates
-iMessage
-No more syncing
-Airplay mirroring
-iCloud
post #48 of 212
If I were to pay the $99 to become an Apple developer would I get to download iOS5 early to my phone?
post #49 of 212
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Originally Posted by Jexus View Post

Apple did not invent multi touch, they popularized it.

I never said they invented it. They showed the industry how to implement it. Every phone manufacturer has copied it - among many, many other features.

Of course, that's not amusing. lol
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Originally Posted by ds1985 View Post

If I were to pay the $99 to become an Apple developer would I get to download iOS5 early to my phone?

Most likely yes you would...oh and that fee is yearly.
post #51 of 212
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Originally Posted by ds1985 View Post

If I were to pay the $99 to become an Apple developer would I get to download iOS5 early to my phone?

yep!
post #52 of 212
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

I never said they invented it. They showed the industry how to implement it. Every phone manufacturer has copied it - among many, many other features.

Of course, that's not amusing. lol

It is indeed amusing...After all, I'll be happy to give credit to the company that showed the world the now standard for multitouch:

Pierre Wellner and
Fingerworks(Which Apple purchased)
post #53 of 212
i want multiple user accounts on my iPad!
with all of the new sync features that i'd like to use, my wife doesn't need to see all of the text messages, emails, and photos that i'm sending/receiving/taking with my iPhone while she's using "our" iPad, and i don't want to see all of hers.
Apple's solution: buy a second iPad! not.
post #54 of 212
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Originally Posted by bongo View Post

Yup, I switched and love the Android notifications. Good to see IoS got the same now, though I expect Apple fanbois who previously said Android notifications suck to jump and praise Apple to the hilt.

iCloud looks pretty good, atleast whatever has been announced. I hope the "one more thing" is the iphone 5. Looking forward to see what it has, though I am waiting for Nexus 3.

90% of people here have said that notification in iOS pre 5 sucked
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post #55 of 212
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i want multiple user accounts on my iPad!
with all of the new sync features that i'd like to use, my wife doesn't need to see all of the text messages, emails, and photos that i'm sending/receiving/taking with my iPhone while she's using "our" iPad, and i don't want to see all of hers.
Apple's solution: buy a second iPad! not.

No matter where I looked I couldn't find any software that would allow my Wife and I to use the iPad at the same time... so I had to buy another one.
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post #56 of 212
That's so much stuff that I have a feeling this was Jobs last time as ring master and his greatest Show on Earth.
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post #57 of 212
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Originally Posted by Jexus View Post

It is indeed amusing...After all, I'll be happy to give credit to the company that showed the world the now standard for multitouch:

Pierre Wellner and
Fingerworks(Which Apple purchased)



Interestingly, the focus has shifted from Netbooks to Tablets - Who's copying who?

Rhetorical question.
post #58 of 212
Since Verizon iPhone4 is still on 4.2.7 missing tons of features like Home Sharing, are Verizon iPhone 4 users actually going to ever see this update? Or will they just get 4.3 when iOS 5 comes out?
post #59 of 212
so yeah, i mean the notifications are a step up...but are they done right? could they be better? could they be different? it's fine and dandy is all, but nothing like wow, my eyes jumped out of my head. so they hire a guy from palm who did webos notifications, then they went ahead and 'borrowed' a similar type of functionality from another OS. mm, yes that makes sense.

its kind of like, yeah, good they're better, but what is there to rave about? pc-less? yeah, playing catchup with everyone else id say. this update was a catchup update for sure, thats all i see.
post #60 of 212
These are great changes, but the thing I wanted most---text reflow after pinch zoom in teh browser---is not included.
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And back to Apple again.

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Since Verizon iPhone4 is still on 4.2.7 missing tons of features like Home Sharing, are Verizon iPhone 4 users actually going to ever see this update? Or will they just get 4.3 when iOS 5 comes out?




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If I were to pay the $99 to become an Apple developer would I get to download iOS5 early to my phone?

Enjoy paying for buggy software that everyone else gets for free without bugs.

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post #62 of 212
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Interestingly, the focus has shifted from Netbooks to Tablets - Who's copying who?

Rhetorical question.

This is kind of a stupid point to make, and here's why: Show me where a computer with a mobile OS existed prior to tablets. Show me where cheap computers existed, doing only the most basic tasks people look for with computers prior to tablets. Netbooks used to be the closest thing, and that's why they sold as well as they did, and why we see many people buying tablets instead. It's what they wanted to begin with.

Believe it or not, netbooks are still an overkill for many many people, and it's THESE people that switch to tablets.

All tablets are doing are filling an even more pinpointed niche in the market. The shift from netbooks to tablets isn't a result of anyone copying anyone else, it's a result of manufacturers seeing that there's a market for people who think netbooks are an overkill, but still want a decide size device to do their basic tasks on.

It's like lawn mowers. If all that existed was riding lawn mowers with 8 gears, 60 inch blades, and cup holders, then lawn mowers came out with 4 gears, 42 inch blades, and no cup holders, what do you think people who need push mowers would buy? Tablets are the push mowers people wanted in the first place.
post #63 of 212
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Originally Posted by Jexus View Post

It is indeed amusing...After all, I'll be happy to give credit to the company that showed the world the now standard for multitouch:

Pierre Wellner and
Fingerworks(Which Apple purchased)


Maybe the history is bit longer and there is more projects prior Fingerworks. Check this link :http://bit.ly/iqRLMu (It is from the "father of multitouch").

I know Apple holds a patent to multitouch technology, but if this ever gets to the court, they have no chance the patent will be voided, this is just clear "prior art" case.
post #64 of 212
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

Mac OS wasn't huge but iOS5 is going to rock. There are many things that where announced that will benefit my usage of iOS. For example the improved Mail app will allow for even more usage form my iPad. The camera app update is fantastic and deals with several things I don't like about the current one.


All in all I see iOS5 making my devices even more useful.

I actually thought the Lion and iCloud announcements were far more significant than a bunch of catch-up mobile announcements.
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Seriously
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That's so much stuff that I have a feeling this was Jobs last time as ring master and his greatest Show on Earth.

I have the same feeling too! \ I already miss him

As for the notification update, ABSOLUTLEY love it! Finally, be gone with you dreadful annoying iOS4 popups. I really don't care if it was a direct import of Android's, this was badly needed and am so glad Apple did it.
post #67 of 212
iPhone 3GS included?! Yes!
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Originally Posted by gwlaw99 View Post

These are great changes, but the thing I wanted most---text reflow after pinch zoom in teh browser---is not included.

+1

Second to notifications, this is another major annoyance on iOS....though I guess the reader function is supposed to compensate for it.
post #69 of 212
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Originally Posted by bongo View Post

Yup, I switched and love the Android notifications. Good to see IoS got the same now, though I expect Apple fanbois who previously said Android notifications suck to jump and praise Apple to the hilt.:lol.

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And as to trolls, as much as you would consider Android fans to be trolls, the person who mentioned it is a troll himself then, no? I own Aapl stock, so then, Im an Android troll who gets the best of both worlds eh? Stop this troll talk BS, dont generalize.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to generalize.

At least we have object examples of straight up trolls. Which "iFanboys" were complaining about Android notifications again? Oh yeah, they weren't, it's just that you're' an asshole.
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post #70 of 212
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Originally Posted by magicj View Post

Can this be turned off?

Not every text message and e-mail is meant to be shown to the world whether you want it to be or not.

Why are you showing other people your phone?

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post #71 of 212
Technical Patents are about implementations of ideas, not the idea itself.

Please remember that distinction.
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Yeah, we wouldn't want to generalize.

At least we have object examples of straight up trolls. Which "iFanboys" were complaining about Android notifications again? Oh yeah, they weren't, it's just that you're' an asshole.

lol. Before name calling, have the decency to read multiple websites. How about, A LOT of them do that. There was someone on this board in this thread who already said iOs's notifications are much more elegant. Go to Android sites, and see the fanbois out there. I know a lot of them do appreciate them, and I am assuming you are one. I have seen comments like "Apple's notification system is just 1,0, wait for the 2.0, it will be revolutionary and blow Android out of the water" etc etc. So before calling me an asshole, go and get outside your cocoon of reading only specific websites. I happen to read everything that interests me, so I see a lot more fanboism than you do. Im actually not offended, but laughing. Its hilarious.
post #73 of 212
forgot mention! TABS TABS TABS TABS in Safari on iOS5. I am so happy! so so happy!

I used to use other browsers but since the latest iOS4 with that speed increase they gave Safari I could no longer use those slower browsers and went back to Safari but missed my tabs so much. Although, they improved the constant refreshing in Safari it still is annoying to me. Oh GAWD please remove that stinking REFRESHing in Safari already. (crossing fingers for iOS5)

Ohh, and no tethering anymore is a godsend.
post #74 of 212
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lol. Before name calling, have the decency to read multiple websites. How about, A LOT of them do that. There was someone on this board in this thread who already said iOs's notifications are much more elegant. Go to Android sites, and see the fanbois out there. I know a lot of them do appreciate them, and I am assuming you are one. I have seen comments like "Apple's notification system is just 1,0, wait for the 2.0, it will be revolutionary and blow Android out of the water" etc etc. So before calling me an asshole, go and get outside your cocoon of reading only specific websites. I happen to read everything that interests me, so I see a lot more fanboism than you do. Im actually not offended, but laughing. Its hilarious.

Why would we read "multiple websites". On thus website almost every commentator has preferred webOS notifications to iOS for the last 2 years. Do a search.

And only the insane would troll the websites for the fans of devices they don't own after a huge announcement to point out the one tiny fix which may have been implemented on his system first.
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post #75 of 212
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A simple "Yes" or "No" will do.

Can I turn off notifications appearing on the lock screen?

How could I know that? No one has iOS 5 yet. And that was just deflection.

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post #76 of 212
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A simple "Yes" or "No" will do.

Can I turn off notifications appearing on the lock screen?

There are 500 new features in Apples new iOS. Can you take your insane fan boi-ism to an Android forum? And let us discuss the new features of the device we own.

We'll do a deal when google have a conference, if they do, we won't post irrelevancies on Android forums. That would be nuts.
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forgot mention! TABS TABS TABS TABS in Safari on iOS5. I am so happy! so so happy!

I used to use other browsers but since the latest iOS4 with that speed increase they gave Safari I could no longer use those slower browsers and went back to Safari but missed my tabs so much. Although, they improved the constant refreshing in Safari it still is annoying to me. Oh GAWD please remove that stinking REFRESHing in Safari already. (crossing fingers for iOS5)

Ohh, and no tethering anymore is a godsend.

Can't wait to test Safari out, which has been my biggest issue with the iPad since day one in April 2010.
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So they didn't say you could turn them off in the keynote I take it.

Say what do think of the new 1400 API in iOS 5.
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post #79 of 212
@chronster

I disagree. I think the slew of Tablets we are seeing is a direct result of manufacturers riding Apple's wave rather than them having an epiphany about what a consumer desires or needs.

Overkill? The netbook isn't overkill - It's barely even functional.
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What are you talking about? I'm asking about an iOS 5 feature.

I want to know if I can turn off notifications appearing in the lockscreen.

We dont know. Now why not get angry about Apple has leapfrogged Android on an Android forum. That leaves the sane people here , people who watch the release of operating systems they actually own, to discuss the actual release v
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