Apple unveils iOS 5 with Notification Center, 1500 added APIs, 200 new user features - Page 3

Yes, and no -- the iPad is now officially a post-pc device.

BTW, my 11-year-old grandson (with direction from his 15-year-old sister) did his final term project entirely on an iPad, using iMovie.

He got his grade today... A+... With a comment on his final report card -- "Best EVER project".

That grade, along with the interest, skills and confidence gained, repaid the investment in the iPad -- many times over...

Up until this year, he had always been a poor to average student.

...one happy, grampy!

They are scratching at the walls. When you have the better implementation the only play they have is who had it first.

Well I think the reason this was underwhelming for a lot of people is because it seems a good chuck of the big hitters in this keynote were fixing deficiencies.

Personally I really love what saw. No I didn't see alot of surprises, but I considered Android as being fairly equal but based on your own usage most people certainly should prefer one over the other.

Well, this put alot of Android advantages to bed IMO. Even apple just fixing things and adding some already available features is a big deal.

I think a bigger screen is the last big thing to address, but I do think these improvements make iOS and the iPhone #1 again for the mass majority.

Have to admit though, I'm disappointed in the waiting, thats not typical of apple for existing product updates. Should have been in July with Lion IYAM.

I really hope that some additional features come on board, otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense that they are making everyone wait for 3 more months. Facebook integration would have been 1000x more useful than twitter for me, but thats a personal complaint.

I think you're asking the wrong people- We are yet to use iOS 5.

When you upgrade to iOS5 or buy an iDevice with iOS5 on it.

Yeah, the "home-server" -- maybe better called called iCloud-Local -- is still a need to be filled.

It could have been announced here -- but maybe better at the end of the month -- or sometime before the FCPX announcement in July.

The fact that Apple is very much into shuffling around only delta data makes me believe that this concept will be a major part of media management for Pro apps.

Kind of like this one Apple introduced in 1992?

Are you kidding me? Because something is licensed under GNU GPL doesn't mean it doesn't have trademarks, copyrights, etc.

Congrats!

Anyone catch that only devices compatible with iOS 4.3 are eligible? That means Verizon iPhone users, like myself, aren't going to get it. We waited...only to get screwed!

I suspect that the Verizon iPhone 4 will be supported by iOS 5. I think only iPhone 3G was dropped since that model is approaching three years old and iOS 4 had performance issues on it.

Sadly, you may be right...

The MR feed said that Steve didn't look good -- just tired.

There are a few missing bits -- but the way we interact with content, and each other and our devices was redefined today... Likely, that renaissance will outlast my generation -- but empower generations to come.

What an inspiring example Steve Jobs has presented!

I was all set to buy an Android based phone. iOS5 addressed everything I thought was missing in the iPhone. Now, I'm seriously rethinking.

I think Apple was smart in copying BBM, Android notifications and others UI's. These are things people want and Apple listened.

Biggest thing I am happy to see is now wireless integration. I have collected about 10 of those stupid 30pin to USB connectors. Maybe the new iPods, iPads and iPhones will switch to micro-USB connectors?

Someone please tell me that IOS5 will finally allow saving and filing of articles of interest on my iPad

You and me know that. But for the PC crowd, and Mr Ballmer, there is no such thing as a post-PC. Everything is a PC... except the iPad because it tethers to a PC. That was their excuse. I wonder what will they say now.


Congrats

Do us a favor... Switch To Android!

Actually it's you that is blinkered and ignorant, Android fan boy that you are. Most iOS users have been pretty much in agreement that if Apple were to improve anything on iOS, is should have been notifications first.

As far as Apple fanboys infesting Android sites, utter and complete bullshit. You're straight up lying. OTOH, go to the comments on pretty much any Apple article on any tech site and listen to the long, ugly yowl of the Android army as they belittle the site management for sucking Apple's dick for even mentioning the name and bellowing about the "fanboys" and what they'd probably be saying or thinking, if they were actually in evidence.

Kind of like what your'e doing here. I mean, you're reduced to incomprehensible gibberish like claiming that people are responding well to Apple's just announced notification system is evidence that they thought Apple's notification was better all along.

I'm glad you think being an asshole is funny, but it isn't really. Android people are the biggest douchebags on the internet, constantly on the lookout for any Apple news they can shit on. I guess iOS users are too busy enjoying their gear to bother to do the same-- although apparently they don't have to, since the average Android user is convinced that these fan boys are everywhere, just about to say something stupid.

Really, look at this thread. Apple oriented site, Apple announces big update to iOS that addresses a lot of long standing complaints, and there are half a dozen assholes on the thread smirking and trolling and talking about "catch up" and "copying." You'd never see that on an Android site in a million years. Asshole.

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Insufferable suck-up comments like this make me cringe.

There are still better Notifications (LockInfo) and messaging apps (BiteSMS) in the jailbreak community and Apple are not the first or the best.

Did you read my post? Or the first 10 words?

Nothing in the Notifications that Apple has implemented is SPECIFIC to Google.

Google doesn't want to sue and Apple and vice versa. But apple has sued Google Indirectly. Hell, Microsoft makes a boatload of more money off of Android than it does windows phone 7 due to one of those patent cases.

However, if you recall, Apple was allowed to sue HTC for the lock-screen function a few years back. Lockscreen Notification was specifically implemented into Samsung's touchwiz, and MS has been able to utilize the camera, and HTC some other apps from the lockscreen. It all depends on how aggressive these companies are.

But I expect no response, because both companies are currently competing for the hearts of the XDA community. Motorola will ride the "cool" factor of android as much as it can. HTC, Samsung and LG will probably the only REAL manufacturers pushing android forward.

I'm still undecided as to whether to switch or stay with the iPhone. I like the new Safari and Safai reader, and frankly had notifications and wireless synch covered well with jailbroken apps.

What happened to deep voice integration? How much longer before Apple releases some product after the Sirus acquisition?

At the dark end of the bazaar, in the shadows of the arcade, the old women talk among themselves, their eyes shaded by their babushkas. What are they whispering about . . . ?

Seriously, you guys, we don't know anything, even though the experts at MacRumors have given their opinion, so these are unseemly musings. Handwringing. Chin up, the less said the better.

He seemed fine to me.

So you've never ever lent your phone to someone, or put it down for a sec?

Very famous last words.

Which is exactly why such talk is inappropriate to begin with. It brings out the ghouls.

And we don't know anything, so it's just gossip.

A bit disapointed.

-No deeply integrated voice control
-No turn by turn gps or maps
-Same grid interface

There's some cool stuff, but lacking some of the killer features of other OS's.

Thank you. His voice is strong, and by minute one, we've already been given a brilliant new paradigm.

Back to watching the video . . .

As an Android user, I say this is good enough. I might thinking of switching if an iPhone comes out on my network (my plan is far more valuable than any device I use - $40 for unlimited voice, messaging and data per month).

The turn-by-turn GPS would be missed. But it's a question of whether you are willing to spring for the full price nav apps on the App Store.

The grid interface issue can be annoying depending on how you organize things. But for most people it's fine. Most Android users use themed screens for apps and widgets. I guess iOS will kinda get you close with folders (them your apps per folder?). If you use a lot of widgets though, having them all in the drop down bar is not that great. Plus Apple should have put the power control widget in the drop down bar. That's supremely useful.

As for voice control. No question that Google really beats out Apple on this one.

For me, the one other thing I've always found annoying (and I don't know how iPhone users can stand it) is the constant need to pan around on a webpage because text doesn't reflow. This is on par with notification issue. But they didn't fix it.

Finally, an awnser that doesnt verge on lunacy

it will also be interesting to figure out if the lock screen notices appear when the phone is locked with a pin... never mind how much of the text messages are shown on the lock screen

</leaving phone on your desk while in a meeting, only to have your wife start sexting and your office mates looking at your 'locked' phone>

"Notification Center, an innovative way to easily view and manage notifications in one place without interruption"

Innovative? Really? It's a direct copy of what Android has had since Day 1. That's not innovation. That's called finally catching up. Same with the syncing.

I still wish Android was as snappy as the iPhone, but the syncing, Maps and notifications haven't been matched yet.

But what about:






Let the backtracking begin.

The Syncing is much more comprehensive. Apple is behind on maps, but thats because the rely on google.

Of course not.

Yes, please. Switch to Android.

So you went and did it, you fused your phone to your hand. How's that working out for you?

They may rely on Google, But Apple has the final say on what goes on the iOS version of Maps. If anything is behind it's android counterpart, it's the OEM's doing, not Google's as they push out updates for every platform regardless.

Yeah, those photocopiers haven't been used very much. Last time it was Xerox PARC. It's usually the other guys that are copying Apple, but feel free to gloat this time. You won't get many chances to

One more thing, can anyone remind us again what Android would have looked like in a world without the iPhone? Anyone?

Sure:

It matters not if Apple recognized that the best way to handle notifications (or any other basic feature) was to mimic Android. They took an idea from WebOS, and another from Microsoft too. Just as anyone else mimicking an Apple way of handling something, it's only acknowledging that that someone else has it pretty much correct. It would be pretty short-sighted and stubborn to be different "just because".

In this case simply an Apple tip of the cap to Android for notifications. If they thought there was a better way to do it they would have. No biggie. They've all taken ideas from each other and tried to do them better.