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post #41 of 156
Big deal. I'm disappointed as It looks like mNy people R Jus look at the stock price dropping like a rock. Oh well
post #42 of 156
What does icloud do with non-calendar, non-email and non-contact data on iDisk?

Does it become free storage?
post #43 of 156
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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN View Post

And how would you plan to use it without buying an IPhone, iPad, or iPod touch?
Anyway, how long will you be using a PC once you have your IPhone and iPad?

finally a reason to locate my ipad....its under the bed or some books somewhere...i dunno haven't touched it in days...no...wait....here it is....nope. still useless.
post #44 of 156
1) These 9 free features with no ads should put Ireland on iCloud 9.

2) They have already removed my expiration date from the MM preference pane, but it's still showing on the website. However, the expiration on the website is an extra 9 months ending on June 30th, 2012.


3) I can't be the only one that was momentarily tricked by this optical illusion.

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post #45 of 156
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Originally Posted by TheFatWookie View Post

If I heard Steve right and that they now consider Macs as just another device, then this won't work for me as it is limited to 10 devices.

My family of three has (under 1 iTunes account):
2 - iMacs
1 - Mac Mini
1 - MacBook Pro
3 - iPhone 4s
2 - Apple TVs
1 - iPad
3 - iPod Touch (one for each Car)

13 Devices. Am I doing this wrong somehow?

The only error is that you have too many devices for the one account that you have.
post #46 of 156
iCloud: So if you take a photo of your ass with your iPhone because you're worried you might be developing a rash, it appears on the family's Apple TV ?!

"These are not the roids you are looking for."

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post #47 of 156
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Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post

just wait until all the carriers change that as a condition of a new device upgrade

Though it could happen I'm doubtful, AT&T could probably care less for the small minority of us who grandfathered into unlimited 3G data.
post #48 of 156
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Originally Posted by Goldenclaw View Post

Futurists and prognosticators chime in...

iCloud service is free to start in order to get people hooked. Then bam...a year or two down the road it will no longer be free.

When has that EVER been Apple's MO? Things get less expensive with them not more.
post #49 of 156
So what happens between June 30th and the launch of iCloud?
post #50 of 156
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Originally Posted by PXT View Post

So if you take a photo of your ass with your iPhone because you're worried you might be developing a rash, it appears on the family's Apple TV ?!

No, that automatically goes to your Twitter account for the world to see.
post #51 of 156
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Originally Posted by n42 View Post

I don't think they're going to make us pay for iCloud, ever. They are locking us in with the free offer, but not to make us pay for the service later -- to force us use their hardware. It's a smart move. And I don't really care, anyway.. I'll happily use their hardware.

"Ever" stops at 5gig. Once you pass "Ever" you will be charged.
post #52 of 156
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Originally Posted by Goldenclaw View Post

Futurists and prognosticators chime in...

iCloud service is free to start in order to get people hooked. Then bam...a year or two down the road it will no longer be free.

The 5gb it need to sync devices will always be free...
All itunes purchased are store in the cloud for free

its the xtras that will cost you:

Want to upload your cd collection: 25$/year
to come: movies: gonna be a fee to upload what you purchased (or pirated) elsewhere.
post #53 of 156
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Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post

just wait until all the carriers change that as a condition of a new device upgrade

Yep, the carriers haven't weighed in yet. This will effect us all, regardless of whether we use it.

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post #54 of 156
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iCloud: So if you take a photo of your ass with your iPhone because you're worried you might be developing a rash, it appears on the family's Apple TV ?!

Now that was funny....and disturbing......that pic would automatically go to facebook....

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post #55 of 156
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iCloud: So if you take a photo of your ass with your iPhone because you're worried you might be developing a rash, it appears on the family's Apple TV ?!

Look out politicians and athletes! I foresee many "Oops! Did I just post that?" moments

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post #56 of 156
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Originally Posted by Mugzy View Post

I want to know how this is going to impact my data plan.

iCloud may be free for now, but this is going to be transferring a LOT of data over 3G.
So it looks like "free" from Apple means me paying $10-$25 more a month with AT&T on a new data plan or overages.

UPDATE: looks like iCloud is WiFi only for now. (still watching keynote...)

Yes, it only backs up over WiFi.
post #57 of 156
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

This iCloud doesn't seem to be running Apple hardware:

Sure...these are new 60" wide racks...better than the standard 19" racks. And instead of using 4' or 8' fluorescent lights, they've upgraded to 20-foot-long tubes. Not to mention, they've hired Lilliputian admins/monkeys to push the buttons, and climb the new 100u racks.

A sad hack job on the photo.
post #58 of 156
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Originally Posted by titomcgee View Post

Looks like Apple is taking care of people until June 30 next year:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4597

Thanks for the link, but this is still shit! All they are doing is extending something for a year that people just paid $100.00 for that is now FREE. They can extend it for 10 years, so what, it is now FREE and folks just paid for it as recently as yesterday.

The support page is also not real clear with what happens to family pack members. I assume each one will convert their own @me.com address to an iCloud thingy while keeping thier @me.com address?

Also, I have a family pack with 4 @me.com address that have nothing to do with my account id for iTunes. How does that work?

Do I need to change the email/id to my Mobile Me email for iCloud to work?

Will they still be able to have different @me.com iCloud email addresses, but sync/ with my one iTunes account through iCloud?

Wait my head just exploded.
post #59 of 156
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Originally Posted by benanderson89 View Post

I am REALLY worried about this as well. Are there any developers in here who have a beta of Lion who can confirm the "iDisk" still in Finder's "Go" menu?

Well remain scared. This Apple Support Page link seems to indicate that iDisk and iWeb hosting won't be around after June 30, 2012. Yikes! Does that mean Web Gallery is going away as well? I LOVE sharing pictures through Web Gallery!
post #60 of 156
Looks like MobileMe is officially dead. http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
post #61 of 156
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Originally Posted by bettieblue View Post

"Ever" stops at 5gig. Once you pass "Ever" you will be charged.

5GB of documents and other tadbits of data.
A lot of the things that consume large amounts of data (photos, music) are "covered" on Apple's end, which I really didn't expect.
post #62 of 156
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I have an extra MM I bought for a Soccer site -- still in original box -- save as collector's item -- along with PC/jr chiclet kb.

If you haven't yet used the code and have the receipt, you can get refunded.

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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN View Post

And how would you plan to use it without buying an IPhone, iPad, or iPod touch?

By... syncing between computers that you have, too...

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Anyway, how long will you be using a PC once you have your IPhone and iPad?

Not me, and for millions and millions of people, plenty of time to forever. Not everyone wants a Mac.

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post #63 of 156
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Originally Posted by TheFatWookie View Post

Thanks for the link, but this is still shit!



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All they are doing is extending something for a year that people just paid $100.00 for that is now FREE. They can extend it for 10 years, so what, it is now FREE and folks just paid for it as recently as yesterday.

No, no they didn't.

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Also, I have a family pack with 4 @me.com address that have nothing to do with my account id for iTunes. How does that work?

You have over a year to figure it out.
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post #64 of 156
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Originally Posted by rollerborges View Post

Yes, it only backs up over WiFi.

Yes...but will it PLAY only over WiFi or will it play (stream) your music over 3G?

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post #65 of 156
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Originally Posted by TheFatWookie View Post

Thanks for the link, but this is still shit! All they are doing is extending something for a year that people just paid $100.00 for that is now FREE. They can extend it for 10 years, so what, it is now FREE and folks just paid for it as recently as yesterday.

The support page is also not real clear with what happens to family pack members. I assume each one will convert their own @me.com address to an iCloud thingy while keeping thier @me.com address?

Also, I have a family pack with 4 @me.com address that have nothing to do with my account id for iTunes. How does that work?

Do I need to change the email/id to my Mobile Me email for iCloud to work?

Will they still be able to have different @me.com iCloud email addresses, but sync/ with my one iTunes account through iCloud?

Wait my head just exploded.

Well MobileMe is more than just email, calendar and contacts which is what is getting extended through June 30, 2012. Web Gallery, iWeb hosting, iDisk storage, the Backup app all are exclusive to MobileMe and seem to be going away. No word on if MobileMe email aliases are part of the free iCloud service.

Also no word on web access to mail, calendar, contacts, iDisk, etc. Will iCloud take away any web interface? Seems so.
post #66 of 156
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I have an extra MM I bought for a Soccer site -- still in original box -- save as collector's item -- along with PC/jr chiclet kb.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

If you haven't yet used the code and have the receipt, you can get refunded.

Here are the instructions for getting a MobileMe refund: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4445
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post #67 of 156
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Originally Posted by yargok View Post

How does this iCloud work for those of us who share an AppleID within a family? For example, my wife and I share our iTunes app purchases, but don't want to sync our calendars and mail. Is it possible to divorce the two?

I also wonder about this. My wife and I share an iTunes acct for media and apps. Not sure I want all her cat pictures and not sure she wants all my iWork documents. I wonder if the iCloud apps can be individually linked to an Apple ID - that way you could use the App Store and iTunes together but iWork, iCal, etc., for your own stuff.
post #68 of 156
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Originally Posted by titomcgee View Post

Looks like Apple is taking care of people until June 30 next year:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4597

And the result of that, since my account auto renewed at the end of May, is a 1 day free extension. Will update if Apple agrees to any kind of refund.
post #69 of 156
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I'm so tired of comments like this.

The *ONLY* reason DropBox is fast is because in most cases it doesn't actually have to sync or move data, it just gives you access to a file that's the same as the file you wanted to sync, not the actual file you wanted to sync. This is arguably a dangerous and poor practice overall for personal files.

Not sure I follow the good Dr. Apple does _not_ know sync. I just told a client to stop using it while I found a better solution from DropBox and SpiderOak. MobileMe / iDisk works from a host name. So, start your iDisk sync, then re-boot the machine, and you CANNOT continue to sync. Errors because it thinks a sync is in progress from a machine with the same host name....and it sits for hours with no resolution.

1. if you can't survive a simple re-boot...
2. if you require a single specific drop folder, mandated by your own coders...
3. if your OS/GUI team hides the OS "disk" from users, but your sync team forces a "disk" object to be seen on the desktop...

...you are not a viable option for file synchronization
post #70 of 156
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Originally Posted by aleghart View Post

...

A sad hack job on the photo.

?


it is simply Steve Jobs walking on stage with a giant picture of the Carolina data center being projected behind him... no hack.
post #71 of 156
Must… resist… urge… to respond to new ass-in-the-pan posters that only signed up to make a derogatory comment on an event day.
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post #72 of 156
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Originally Posted by TheFatWookie View Post

Thanks for the link, but this is still shit! All they are doing is extending something for a year that people just paid $100.00 for that is now FREE. They can extend it for 10 years, so what, it is now FREE and folks just paid for it as recently as yesterday.

The support page is also not real clear with what happens to family pack members. I assume each one will convert their own @me.com address to an iCloud thingy while keeping thier @me.com address?

Also, I have a family pack with 4 @me.com address that have nothing to do with my account id for iTunes. How does that work?

Do I need to change the email/id to my Mobile Me email for iCloud to work?

Will they still be able to have different @me.com iCloud email addresses, but sync/ with my one iTunes account through iCloud?

Wait my head just exploded.


no, you get mobile me for one year from today. icloud doesnt have an email service, only 5 GB storage instead of 20 GB and no iWeb/hosting. pretty fair i believe on Apple's part.
post #73 of 156
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Originally Posted by titomcgee View Post

Looks like Apple is taking care of people until June 30 next year:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4597

It just says that if you had an active account today it was extended a year for free. What about people who just paid $100 for the same thing yesterday!?!

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post #74 of 156
I don't understand the complaining a sale previously agreed that people were happy about. Even ignoring the extended utility being offered the sale would have been completed and utilized before today. I understand that the iPhone 3GS is only $49 from AT&T yet I paid $199 out of pocket. I'm not beating down AT&T and Apple's door demanding the difference in return.

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It just says that if you had an active account today it was extended a year for free. What about people who just paid $100 for the same thing yesterday!?!

1) No one paid $100 at the MobileMe site yesterday.

2) Hasn't it been over a month since MobileMe signup has been stopped and sold, at least by Apple.

3) Apple offers returns with no restocking fees for HW so would it seems feasible to me that if you have a (MobileMe or .Mac) that was oddly purchased from a 3rd-party recently you'll get a refund. However, I know I bought and used .Mac serials long after MobileMe came about so they will have to sort about potential abuse hence my mention of "purchased recently."
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post #75 of 156
Love this new iCloud and would use it but it will not work for people like me/us who have dial up and can not got hi speed internet or can afford hi-speed internet ...

I sure hope it does not replace iTunes as I like to burn CDs and make programs for my iPod Touch in iTunes...
post #76 of 156
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Originally Posted by yensid98 View Post

No word on if MobileMe email aliases are part of the free iCloud service.

It seems like aliases are part of iCloud but you can't change them until then which is a bit rubbish
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4632
post #77 of 156
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Originally Posted by 1984 View Post

It just says that if you had an active account today it was extended a year for free. What about people who just paid $100 for the same thing yesterday!?!

somebody has to get the short end of the stick.
post #78 of 156
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Originally Posted by dmfett View Post

Love this new iCloud and would use it but it will not work for people like me/us who have dial up and can not got hi speed internet or can afford hi-speed internet ...

I sure hope it does not replace iTunes as I like to burn CDs and make programs for my iPod Touch in iTunes...


you should be fine, as it doesn't sound like Apple is axing iTunes, simply adding more value.

SInce you probably aren't purchasing media from the iTunes store, your music collection and your usage will be unaffected.
post #79 of 156
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Originally Posted by MadIvan View Post

And the result of that, since my account auto renewed at the end of May, is a 1 day free extension. Will update when Apple has agreed to a refund.

Editing this post because I have appeared to make it unintentionally inflammatory:

So far I am not getting much from Apple support. They won't offer a refund without canceling the account. They won't offer a pro-rated refund between the renewal date and June 6th when the service effectively became free.

So here are what the options seem to be: cancel if it has been less than 45 days since you renewed, and get a full refund but lose the account. Alternately, you can cancel at any time for a partial refund, and lose the account. Other people who's accounts expire on that same date that you cancel get to keep them for free, so there you go. I don't know how much you will get back in that case. You can keep the account until iCloud is fully up and hope that the option for a partial refund is still available at that time.

I had a long explanation for why I am not satisfied with these options, but I am not going to post it since it is just my opinion. I will simply say this much: I knew that my renewal was coming up a week before the WWDC announcements and I trusted Apple to do the right thing. In my opinion they have not done the right thing and I am disappointed.
post #80 of 156
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Originally Posted by sandor View Post

somebody has to get the short end of the stick.

At a minimum, they should offer a pro-rated refund. Perceived value is what matters to a company like Apple.
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