or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Cupertino mayor certain Apple's 'spaceship' campus will be approved
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Cupertino mayor certain Apple's 'spaceship' campus will be approved - Page 2

post #41 of 82
What I want to know is, where did the Mayor get his perm?
post #42 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

Being effeminate does not mean someone is gay ...

I think that most of the time it does mean that somebody is gay. Maybe this Asian guy on the council is a small exception to the rule.

Even though I am not German, if I decided to all of a sudden speak English with a German accent, then I shouldn't be surprised if strangers asked me if I was German when they spoke to me. If somebody speaks in a gayish tone, then it's not a stretch to conclude that there are going to be people who think that person is gay.

There is definitely a gay tone that exists and I think that I would even be able to scientifically prove it using my audio skills and my pro audio software on my Macs. The fact is that quite a few gay people, the kind that is very feminine and likes to greatly exaggerate everything (basically the flaming gay type) shares a very similar way of speaking. These people go out of their way to let everybody know that they're a flaming gay.
post #43 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by davestall View Post

Great idea. Build a glass building over a fault line. At least this way Apple's building will be as fragile as the phones they make. Consistency is important.

THANK GOD you brought this to our attention! Obviously, the architects and engineers who designed this building had NO IDEA what they were doing. You, sir, are a genius, and you very well likely saved thousands of lives. I will promptly forward your trolling comment from an internet forum directly to the design team and instruct them to reconsider the building. Clearly a huge oversight on their part. Thank you again!
post #44 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by m01ety View Post

Uh, no. He's married to a woman and has two kids. He also doesn't trigger my 'dar.

He's just very awkward, is all.

Married with kids doesn't mean straight. Ask John Travolta and Tom Cruise.
post #45 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

The video was very interesting to watch. Not just for the building and grounds but to see just how daft the elected officials are...

Yeah, I was simultaneously excited about the project and rolling my eyes at the council's star-struck reaction. Looks like a great plan -- the 80% landscaping is pretty impressive for a site that will hold so many workers -- but there are legitimate questions for a government to ask of any project of that scope. I don't see that happening so long as those council members are giddy because they're in the same room as Steve-O. (Being giddy is fine, I suppose, so long as one says, "I'm a huge fan and a little too impressed by your presence to think clearly. I'll get back to you.")

I wonder if the replanted green space will be occasionally available to Cupertino citizens or just Apple's private park?
post #46 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Really? Well, ok, I guess I stand corrected on that issue then. When I saw the first video with Steve Jobs making the presentation, as soon as the Asian guy opened his mouth and began to speak, I could have sworn that he was gay, because he definitely spoke as if he was gay.

I've known a few people from the SF area who people thought were gay because they, "spoke as if they were gay." Perhaps it's simply the case that people confuse the speech patterns common to certain SF area natives with "gay speech" for some reason. In my experience, it's not possible to identify someone as gay or not gay based on their speech patterns and/or accent.
post #47 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by neosum View Post

The mayor seems like a huge apple fan. I don't blame him though. I watched the presentation of the building the other day and steve posed the possibility that they'd have to move out of cupertino if the city can't accommodate their needs. As a mayor, he wouldn't want to lose the city's biggest tax payer. So in that sense, there's definitely some a** kissing going on.

The city doesn't get taxes from Apple directly. Apple employees spend money in businesses around town for which a certain part of the sales tax goes to the city. If Apple buys something locally like catering, etc. the sales tax benefits the city, but the property taxes go to Santa Clara County which is the same county that Mountain View is located in. Sure the property taxes would be somewhat higher due to the real estate appraisal after the construction but that is then doled out to the cities on an as needed basis not necessarily proportionate to taxes generated by the city. Same with the corporate taxes they go to the state and the feds.

Not saying that Cupertino does not pride itself in being the home of Apple.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply
post #48 of 82
Whether or not the Mayor is gay determines what... that the spaceship won't be built... will be built... shouldn't be built... should be built... should have a disco bar installed... ???!!!
Hmmmmmm...
Reply
Hmmmmmm...
Reply
post #49 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

should have a disco bar installed... ???!!!

Hey now.......I like disco music sometimes, and I'm not gay. I even like a few Lady Gaga tunes.
post #50 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Hey now.......I like disco music sometimes, and I'm not gay. I even like a few Lady Gaga tunes.

Lady GaGa??!! OK... now I'm not convinced...
Hmmmmmm...
Reply
Hmmmmmm...
Reply
post #51 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstone View Post

The city doesn't get taxes from Apple directly.

There are no property taxes in Cupertino?

According this:

Quote:
Of the sales tax that Apple and Google generate, approximately one-ninth goes to their host cities. And of the property tax paid by the two, approximately 5 percent helps fund their cities' budgets. In Mountain View, Google pays around 3.7 percent of the total property tax collected in the city, more than what's paid by the next three highest businesses combined. Plus, Google pays more for leasing city land. Apple's property tax contributes 4.8 percent of the total collected in Cupertino, up from only 1.2 percent some 10 years ago.

The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

Reply

The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

Reply
post #52 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Lady GaGa??!! OK... now I'm not convinced...

That's ok. If somebody were to think that I was gay because I liked a couple of Lady Gaga tunes, then I don't mind. If I were really gay though, I can promise you that I wouldn't speak gay at least. That's the main problem that I have with certain gay people, they're really annoying.

Lady Gaga is from my hometown, so I'm happy for her.
post #53 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

The video was very interesting to watch. Not just for the building and grounds but to see just how daft the elected officials are..."we want your money, Mr. Jobs" and the twit who tried to weasel free wifi. Recommend watching it. http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?...id=463&page=26

I have always thought that politicians "get off" on spending someone else's money!

Best

They wouldn't be there if they weren't elected, would they?
post #54 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

The guy is definitely Asian and he's also definitely pretty gay, so you're right about that.

Is it because "He noted that growing up, he used an Apple II computer and has stuck with the company's products since"?
post #55 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

Is it because "He noted that growing up, he used an Apple II computer and has stuck with the company's products since"?

Well, if that's somebody's criteria for deciding who's gay or not, then yeah, I guess I am extremely gay. Few people are gayer than me, in that case. I just ooze gayness wherever I go.
post #56 of 82
btw, cali has an earthquake issue? I wasn't aware of that...
post #57 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBell View Post

The woman was obviously trying to be funny about the wi-fi.

I agree, she seemed to be joking with Steve... but one can never tell with a politician.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #58 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by k2director View Post

Married with kids doesn't mean straight. Ask John Travolta and Tom Cruise.

John Travolta and Tom Cruise are married to each other? When did this happen?

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #59 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Really? Well, ok, I guess I stand corrected on that issue then. When I saw the first video with Steve Jobs making the presentation, as soon as the Asian guy opened his mouth and began to speak, I could have sworn that he was gay, because he definitely spoke as if he was gay.

May be he's a bi. Being married does rule out homosexuality.
post #60 of 82
Plus One.

(I tried to write +1, but was told my message was too short.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleStud View Post

THANK GOD you brought this to our attention! Obviously, the architects and engineers who designed this building had NO IDEA what they were doing. You, sir, are a genius, and you very well likely saved thousands of lives. I will promptly forward your trolling comment from an internet forum directly to the design team and instruct them to reconsider the building. Clearly a huge oversight on their part. Thank you again!
post #61 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phlip View Post

Looks very much like the UK's Government Communications Headquarters to me.

I was thinking of a smoothed-over Pentagon. But that's just me.
post #62 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Whether or not the Mayor is gay determines what... that the spaceship won't be built... will be built... shouldn't be built... should be built... should have a disco bar installed... ???!!!

Thanks for the first sane post in an otherwise weird, repressed thread.
post #63 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

I think that most of the time it does mean that somebody is gay. Maybe this Asian guy on the council is a small exception to the rule.

Even though I am not German, if I decided to all of a sudden speak English with a German accent, then I shouldn't be surprised if strangers asked me if I was German when they spoke to me. If somebody speaks in a gayish tone, then it's not a stretch to conclude that there are going to be people who think that person is gay.

There is definitely a gay tone that exists and I think that I would even be able to scientifically prove it using my audio skills and my pro audio software on my Macs. The fact is that quite a few gay people, the kind that is very feminine and likes to greatly exaggerate everything (basically the flaming gay type) shares a very similar way of speaking. These people go out of their way to let everybody know that they're a flaming gay.

your obsession with this man's sexual orientation, and your desperate need to characterize him as being of a particular sexual orientation, is nothing less than pathetic. Frankly, I don't think people like you should even be ALLOWED to use apple products. You just don't deserve them.
post #64 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post

Apparently you know something we don't? I agree he sounded tired, though.

If you had to deal with the council members insipid questions you would be tired too... that one woman needed to give it a rest already!

Edit - OK, maybe her "request" wasn't as smarmy as it first appeared: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...ilwoman-2011-6
post #65 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by davestall View Post

Great idea. Build a glass building over a fault line. At least this way Apple's building will be as fragile as the phones they make.

It must really suck living in a glass half empty world...

Quote:
Consistency is important.

and tiring
post #66 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstone View Post

The city doesn't get taxes from Apple directly.

You might find this interesting:

http://mytown.mercurynews.com/archiv...eComputer.html
post #67 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by keyboard View Post

Frankly, I don't think people like you should even be ALLOWED to use apple products.

Frankly, I don't think you have the ability to say what things his "type" of person can and cannot do any more than he can stereotype one's sexual proclivities by a mode of speech.

Summary: You're both wrong, this has nothing to do with the topic, and please stop for everyone's sake.
post #68 of 82
Wow you guys waste two whole pages speculating about the mayor's sexuality and/or "manliness" when in the other "Spaceship" thread I get lambasted for asking about solar energy for the new campus and how "green" the new campus really is? Bloody hell.

Go and watch some My Little Pony : Friendship Is Magic, revel in the 26-episode epicness and come back to this thread better informed about "manliness":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeJ6-gN0eB4
post #69 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

I agree, she seemed to be joking with Steve... but one can never tell with a politician.

I couldn't tell because of her English. My Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese) is horrible but I'd hope I would improve it if I was on the city council of somewhere in China/ Taiwan.

If I didn't improve, you can post on the Chinese and Taiwanese forums making fun of my Mandarin and Cantonese.

I think it is amazing the opportunities you are given in the USA, UK and Australia. Truly in most cases if you have the will and the dream you can achieve anything. Accents are okay (mine would be considered different yet strangely charming in a mysterious kind of way ) but at certain levels of corporate and public life a bit of clarity of English wouldn't go amiss.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple...ilwoman-2011-6
Here's her response in full to her questions and her level of English. Looks like her grasp of English may be lacking, but her aptitude for politics is top-notch.

Thanks for your email and taking the time to ask me about my question to Steve Jobs when he presented at the Cupertino City Council meeting the other night. I've had a chance to read through some of the public's comments, and I think if I provided some context to the situation and explain what I actually intended to ask, it might help clear up some of the confusion. As I'm sure you know, Apple and the City of Cupertino have enjoyed a fruitful, long-term relationship for quite awhile, and I've been lucky to have met Steve a number of times through his interactions with the city during my last 7 1/2 years of service on the council. It was just about 5 years ago when he first told us about Apple's intentions to build a new campus in Cupertino (http://goo.gl/4O0Kc), and only a couple months ago that Mayor Gilbert Wong and I spent time with him privately discussing the company's plans in further detail.

So, to be clear, I am certainly well aware of the tremendous benefits that Apple provides to our city as the largest tax payer, and I have always expressed my enthusiasm for Apple to choose to remain in Cupertino (http://goo.gl/0alV1, http://goo.gl/hD4e3).

My question about how residents can benefit from the new campus was primarily meant to be a softball question for Steve to talk more about Apple's long-term relationship with Cupertino and its residents. I was hoping he would talk not only about the fact that they are the city's largest tax payer, but also that Apple reciprocally enjoys calling Cupertino its home, as our city attracts phenomenally talented individuals and families with our vibrant and diverse community, safe neighborhoods, top-notch education districts, and extremely supportive business environment (as evidenced by numerous other tech companies that call Cupertino their home). Believe me, I know how much our residents benefit from having a $300B company in their backyard, but I was hoping to draw out more dialogue on Cupertino and Apple's mutually beneficial relationship.

Steve, in his answer, joked about moving up to Mountain View - Google's hometown where they provide the residents there with free wifi. For some background context, I've joked with Steve in previous conversations (unrelated to Apple's new campus) about Apple doing the same for Cupertino. So, my follow-up was admittedly a flat attempt at going along with the same joke, and Steve replied the same way he did previously to me, which was he believes the city should provide those services. It was intended to be a joke and nothing more.

Regarding the iPads - again, another flat follow-up joke that if Apple pays its taxes, Cupertino can use those taxes to buy people free iPads, but they would then need free wifi from Apple to use them, so a win-win for all. Again, it was a joke, and I obviously wasn't trying to ask Steve for free iPads for residents.

A long-winded response, but hopefully it clears up some of the situation. English is my third language, so I can tell from watching the clip again how viewers might have misunderstood what I said.

Thanks for taking the time to ask me about it.
post #70 of 82
(Too Much Information. Removed By Myself)
post #71 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

... I think it is amazing the opportunities you are given in the USA, UK and Australia. Truly in most cases if you have the will and the dream you can achieve anything. ...

Those are just marketing claims, they aren't really true. The American Dream died a long time ago.
post #72 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvidia2008

... I think it is amazing the opportunities you are given in the USA, UK and Australia. Truly in most cases if you have the will and the dream you can achieve anything...

EDIT: I think I was being a tiny bit sarcastic with that statement... As with most other people that watched the Cupertino video I was like hmm... how exactly do you get to be on a city council nowadays?

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post

Those are just marketing claims, they aren't really true. The American Dream died a long time ago.

I dunno if it really died. I guess it does depend more nowadays on luck, connections and initial investment to raise your standard of living in the USA. But the opportunities are there. The main problem is lack of a safety net if you fall on hard times. It seems like you can go as far as you can, but if you can't for some reasons out of your control, like sickness or mental illness, then it's really hard to go anywhere.

Education I guess is also a big challenge. Having a fragmented K-12 school system and insanely high college fees for citizens/ green card holders limits a lot of youth from getting places.

Following on from education is the retraining of those in the 30-60 age range when their jobs disappear due to globalisation.

---------------------

With regard to legal visits and immigration to the US, admittedly since 9/11 it's been tougher to even go and visit the US, let alone try to get work and so on.

My dad has always been into astronomy. When I was a kid in the 80's (and I think even in the 90's), you could go into the library at the US Embassy here in Malaysia. My dad used to rent books and tapes on astronomy.

Fast forward to today, it's all gated, big anti-ram blocks, tight security and forget about the library service. Same with the Australian Embassy, as kids my brother and I could wander in while our parents went through the long process of getting visas for living and working in Australia for a few years.

Even *in* Australia, for example in Melbourne, the US Consulate has all the metal detector thingymajigs with staff all behind presumably bulletproof/shatterproof glass speaking through a mic and a drawer to hand in stuff. At least that's what it was like back in 2002/2003.

----------------------

I don't think the American Dream has died, but it sure has taken a heck of a beating.
post #73 of 82
This one from George Carlin is interesting, while we're on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
post #74 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

This one from George Carlin is interesting, while we're on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

Thanks for that. Takes a funny guy to tell us the not-funny-at-all truth.
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #75 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Wow you guys waste two whole pages speculating about the mayor's sexuality and/or "manliness" when in the other "Spaceship" thread I get lambasted for asking about solar energy for the new campus and how "green" the new campus really is? Bloody hell.

Heh - take it as a compliment. I think the grownups have mostly just seen the way this thread was going, rolled their eyes in despair and wandered off elsewhere. For my own part, I argued with you because you seemed amenable to reason
post #76 of 82
I can't stand this guy, simply for the reason that listening to him talk is EXCEEDINGLY annoying because of his HIDEOUS overuse of the word 'uh'.

Its really terrible.
post #77 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post

Heh - take it as a compliment. I think the grownups have mostly just seen the way this thread was going, rolled their eyes in despair and wandered off elsewhere. For my own part, I argued with you because you seemed amenable to reason

Cheers
post #78 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

Thanks for the link to the origins. I think the fact that people dance around the maypole waving colored handkerchiefs around and wearing bells on their socks is, shall we say, not really the most manly pursuit!

Oh, you are so very wrong about that, you need to go look at this link about Morris Dance -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance
post #79 of 82
Anybody know if they will be renting out any desk space?
post #80 of 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

Joking, right? I'm going to assume so, otherwise you're a fairly ignorant individual.

That area of the bay sits on very solid ground. The building is only four stories tall. Modern construction grade glass is a very, very strong material. Buildings can be built to accommodate shaking and rocking by not completely attaching every section (the skeleton is built in separate sections, none of which are structurally attached to each other). ... etc., etc.

And I'm pretty sure the architects who were hired are very well aware that the surrounding area is prone to shake once in a while.

The local earthquake in Christchurch took down a few normal buildings, and a number of older buildings. The fancy glass fronted ones in the middle of town were left pretty much intact.

Building standards, not just for fun.

Edit: Seeing as they had another 5.5, heres a picture

Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, coming iPhone 5S, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x1, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod classic...
Reply
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, coming iPhone 5S, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x1, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod classic...
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Discussion
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Cupertino mayor certain Apple's 'spaceship' campus will be approved