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post #41 of 76
6/12/11 at 1:29pm
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Sorry off topic ... I use an Electro-Voice RE27ND or a Shure SM58 and an XLR to USB2 from M-Audio and get good results from GB (as well as the higher end apps). I never used a USB mic so no idea what they are like to be honest. (Not that you said you used one ... just commenting on that).

Hey thanks Digital clips! Good to know!

Sorry guys for being off topic!
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post #42 of 76
6/12/11 at 1:52pm
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Yeah, but the speech recognition wasn't that good, if I recall.

That is true. I don't think that many people actually used it. I know that I certainly didn't. I tested it for a few minutes and that's that.
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post #43 of 76
6/12/11 at 1:58pm
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BTW note I am not using a real guitar in iPad's GB, it is the synth I am playing with.

The best guitar for the iPad that I have found is Wi Guitar. It's an acoustic guitar, I like it alot, it's great for just strumming chords and it's extremely playable and musical. You also have access to any chord, unlike the dumbed down options in Garageband. At $20, it's one of the more expensive apps that I've bought, but I don't really care as long as I find something useful. There's a free version also which is more limited.
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post #44 of 76
6/12/11 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

One look at his icon and you can see he is both extremely young and extremely full of himself. I wouldn't trust any info from someone like this...

Apparently this guy is not too reliable; his latest tweet: @chronicwire: CORRECTION: Source had mixed up part numbers, it is unlocked iPhones that will be headed to US Apple Stores for Wednesday, NOT MacBook Airs.

I'm disappointed that AppleInsider, normally better about falling for worthless rumors, would waste any time with nonsense like this.
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post #45 of 76
6/12/11 at 2:15pm
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The best guitar for the iPad that I have found is Wi Guitar. It's an acoustic guitar, I like it alot, it's great for just strumming chords and it's extremely playable and musical. You also have access to any chord, unlike the dumbed down options in Garageband. At $20, it's one of the more expensive apps that I've bought, but I don't really care as long as I find something useful. There's a free version also which is more limited.

Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks.

edit: OK nice, but it doesn't integrate into a digital recording multi-track system as far as I can tell.
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post #46 of 76
6/12/11 at 2:24pm
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Apparently this guy is not too reliable; his latest tweet: @chronicwire: CORRECTION: Source had mixed up part numbers, it is unlocked iPhones that will be headed to US Apple Stores for Wednesday, NOT MacBook Airs.

I'm disappointed that AppleInsider, normally better about falling for worthless rumors, would waste any time with nonsense like this.

Agreed, but sensationalism sells!!!11! Will be cool for you folks based in the U.S. that travel overseas. Buy a local SIM and avoid paying AT$T roaming rates.
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post #47 of 76
6/12/11 at 2:35pm
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Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks.

edit: OK nice, but it doesn't integrate into a digital recording multi-track system as far as I can tell.

If somebody wished to record it, then you'd just go audio out from the iPad and connect it to your DAW computer. I mostly use it to write songs with, as I'm mainly a keyboard player and that app gives me the same feel as writing on a real acoustic guitar.
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post #48 of 76
6/12/11 at 2:51pm
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I really wouldn't be surprised if the supposed voice capabilities were going to be the killer app, so to speak, of the iPhone 5. The phone would include some BS hardware that's required for the voice control and therefore everyone would need to update.

I obviously hope that this functionality is included with the iPhone 4 build of the software, but I'm not holding my breath.

I agree. The Voice commands and voice input work great in Android. I would like to see Apple fully integrate them in to iOS.... It should be a very nice upgrade...
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post #49 of 76
6/12/11 at 3:25pm
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How much CPU power is necessary for voice recognition and voice commands? Will such software dominate the usage of the CPU? I wouldn't want it if it slowed my computer/iPod Touch/iPad/iPhone too much. Would you?

I dont know - something just smells fishy about the wording on those supposed internal build settings...
They just don't read right to me - internal or otherwise...
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post #50 of 76
6/12/11 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

One look at his icon and you can see he is both extremely young and extremely full of himself. I wouldn't trust any info from someone like this

I once saw a photo of Steve Jobs from 1976. He looked both extremely young and extremely full of himself. I wouldn't trust any info from someone like this.
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post #51 of 76
6/12/11 at 5:14pm
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That is true. I don't think that many people actually used it. I know that I certainly didn't. I tested it for a few minutes and that's that.

I say "Open the pod bay doors"
Mac hears: "Open iPod, play Doors"
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post #52 of 76
6/12/11 at 6:28pm
Not necessarily. You can return any Mac within 10 days. Return it (without opening it up) and buy it again. Go to the Apple Store to do it and explain you want the free copy of Lion. The Store will accommodate.

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If it was invoiced before June 6, you're out of luck. Lion is only $30, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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post #53 of 76
6/12/11 at 6:53pm
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Update: Chronic has issued a correction that unlocked GSM iPhones, not new MacBook airs, are coming to U.S. Apple Stores on Wednesday, claiming his source "mixed up part numbers."

That makes much more sense.

There was no way that Apple was updating a six-month old product that is still apparently flying off the shelves.

This is perhaps 'Chronic' (whoever they are) double-dipping on attention-getting.
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post #54 of 76
6/12/11 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

There was no way that Apple was updating a six-month old product...

In a week, it will be 8 months old.

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that is still apparently flying off the shelves.

Source?
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post #55 of 76
6/12/11 at 7:58pm
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Why would they do that? People get to pay extra for Lion if it comes with Snow Leopard.

Certainly worked for the first-gen aluminum iMac and Tiger.

You certainly haven't observed Apple's business practices from the past. It is very common for Apple to put hardware sales on delay pending OS upgrades, or offer upgrades free of charge after recent releases...
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post #56 of 76
6/12/11 at 8:28pm
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In a week, it will be 8 months old.

OK, 7.75 months, not 6.0. Big friggin' deal. Insert that detail into my previous post

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Source?

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...his_month.html

Look at para 5, and follow the 2nd link there. (People like you are probably too lazy to do so anyway; moreover, even if you did, you wouldn't be convinced; and even then, it's frankly irrelevant whether someone like you thinks the MacBook Airs are doing well or not).
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post #57 of 76
6/12/11 at 8:30pm
Twice in quick succession the page navigation links on this thread operated but also appeared to open new windows at two different sites, one porn, one gambling. I couldn't see anything odd in the page code. Now it's working fine again. Anyone else see anything like that?
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post #58 of 76
6/12/11 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by Jcoz View Post

They've already stated macs bought now will receive lion for free.

Thank God someone's paying attention...
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post #59 of 76
6/12/11 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

OK, 7.75 months, not 6.0. Big friggin' deal. Insert that detail into my previous post

Average update times
Imac = 229 days
Macbook Pro = 215 Days
Mac Pro = 259 days
Mac Mini = 258 days

Those are all between 7 - 8.5 months. The Air's history is longer than that, but its not unreasonable to assume an Apple computer would be updated in around 8 months time.
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post #60 of 76
6/12/11 at 10:29pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

OK, 7.75 months, not 6.0. Big friggin' deal. Insert that detail into my previous post

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...his_month.html

Look at para 5, and follow the 2nd link there. (People like you are probably too lazy to do so anyway; moreover, even if you did, you wouldn't be convinced; and even then, it's frankly irrelevant whether someone like you thinks the MacBook Airs are doing well or not).

Lazy ol' me finds your source is irrelevant to the question of whether MBAs are, as you wrote, "still apparently" flying off the shelves. Your source link* is dated November, 29, 2010, which is over 6 months ago and just over a month after the MBAs were last updated.

Sorry to disappoint!


*http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ck_friday.html
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post #61 of 76
6/13/11 at 2:42am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

One look at his icon and you can see he is both extremely young and extremely full of himself. I wouldn't trust any info from someone like this (although the MacBook Air rumour is almost a no-brainer to the extent that the update will happen soon regardless of whether it happens Wednesday or not.)

I bet his Dad is an Apple store manager and has loose lips at the dinner table.

Hmm, did your mother never tell you that you should not judge books by their covers?
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post #62 of 76
6/13/11 at 4:03am
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

In a week, it will be 8 months old.


Source?



Every article written about the Air for the last five months. Where have you been? You'll find googling for a link to be faster than any of us can provide it. Maybe try, "Macbook air selling well." ??? Keep up! There is no shortage of news about the Air selling well.
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post #63 of 76
6/13/11 at 4:24am
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Lazy ol' me finds your source is irrelevant to the question of whether MBAs are, as you wrote, "still apparently" flying off the shelves. Your source link* is dated November, 29, 2010, which is over 6 months ago and just over a month after the MBAs were last updated.

Sorry to disappoint!


*http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ck_friday.html


I think the guy was just giving a casual opinion...not a forensic analysis. I think you brought a knife to no fight whatsoever. Nothing in what he wrote made me think he is an apostle of macbook Air sales propaganda, and we don't need a knock down, drag out fight to prove how wrong he is. If you're as genuine as you want to be perceived, why not simply ask, "I know they were selling well before, but has there been any recent news?" Your purpose seems less about genuine inquiry, and more about walking around looking for someone to brawl with.
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post #64 of 76
6/13/11 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

One look at his icon and you can see he is both extremely young and extremely full of himself. I wouldn't trust any info from someone like this (although the MacBook Air rumour is almost a no-brainer to the extent that the update will happen soon regardless of whether it happens Wednesday or not.)

I bet his Dad is an Apple store manager and has loose lips at the dinner table.

Yes, they make you show a photo ID when you register a twitter account. True.

As to whether one could trust a young person, how about this Facebook kid? Only idiots would entrust him with their personal data...
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post #65 of 76
6/13/11 at 6:19am
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Average update times
Imac = 229 days
Macbook Pro = 215 Days
Mac Pro = 259 days
Mac Mini = 258 days

Those are all between 7 - 8.5 months. The Air's history is longer than that, but its not unreasonable to assume an Apple computer would be updated in around 8 months time.

What is the average update time for Macbook Airs? (Conspicuously missing from your data above).
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post #66 of 76
6/13/11 at 6:21am
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

Lazy ol' me finds your source is irrelevant to the question of whether MBAs are, as you wrote, "still apparently" flying off the shelves. Your source link* is dated November, 29, 2010, which is over 6 months ago and just over a month after the MBAs were last updated.

Sorry to disappoint!


*http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ck_friday.html

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....People like you are probably too lazy to do so anyway; moreover, even if you did, you wouldn't be convinced.......

Nope. You didn't disappoint!
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post #67 of 76
6/13/11 at 8:57am
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How much CPU power is necessary for voice recognition and voice commands? Will such software dominate the usage of the CPU? I wouldn't want it if it slowed my computer/iPod Touch/iPad/iPhone too much. Would you?

I had a voice recognition board installed in my Apple II+. it wasn't great but it did sort of work. With current processors I don't see VR being much of an issue. this is especially so if the processor isn't doing much else other than listening for an input.
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post #68 of 76
6/13/11 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

What is the average update time for Macbook Airs? (Conspicuously missing from your data above).

If you read the entire post you would have understood I wrote that it was longer, but it is still not unreasonable to assume it wouldn't settle into an ~8 month groove like all 4 other Mac computers, especially since its the newest and most likely to have outliers cause significant changes in the average.

edit: my point is to emphatically assume Apple would not update it so at 8 months is preposterous, not that I think they will update them right away.
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post #69 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:27am
Does Lion have ability to undo .7.x upgrades?
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post #70 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:31am
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Does Lion have ability to undo .7.x upgrades?

Nope.
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post #71 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:35am
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Nope.

Wait, I'm lost here. Does he mean .7.x updates as in Mac OS 10.7.x updates? And if so...

1. How could we possibly know that it couldn't undo them? We don't even have 10.7.0 yet, much less 10.7.1.
2. Why wouldn't it be able to?
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post #72 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:37am
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I say "Open the pod bay doors"
Mac hears: "Open iPod, play Doors"

Voice Control works about as well as auto spell correction on iOS which I eventually just turned off it was so frustrating. Google App and Google Translate are a little better but it will be interesting if the addition of Nuance will make VC actually usable.

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post #73 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:43am
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Wait, I'm lost here. Does he mean .7.x updates as in Mac OS 10.7.x updates? And if so...

1. How could we possibly know that it couldn't undo them? We don't even have 10.7.0 yet, much less 10.7.1.
2. Why wouldn't it be able to?

1) I know from the betas (which did jump to an oddly named 10.7.1 with Preview 3, I think) that it's not possible to remove newer builds for older ones unless you reinstall the OS forms scratch.

2) Sounds like you think this is and has been possible.

3) They could add this feature in the future and I can't say what Apple will do in future releases of Lion but as of right now, up through Preview 4, this is not possible. We'll likely know when Apple plans to include this feature because it's an undertaking to prepare for such a feat.
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post #74 of 76
6/13/11 at 11:57am
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1) I know from the betas (which did jump to an oddly named 10.7.1 with Preview 3, I think) that it's not possible to remove newer builds for older ones unless you reinstall the OS forms scratch.

Oh, yes, I encountered that. I suppose that means betas for (Snow) Leopard and the like could do that? Strange.

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2) Sounds like you think this is and has been possible.

Not for the Lion Previews, no, but is it also not possible for retail discs of older OS'?

Sorry, I almost never have to reinstall older versions of an OS, and whenever I do, I've always done a clean install.
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post #75 of 76
6/13/11 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Joseph L View Post

AI sells us to many, many tracking companies. Which pop up blocker do you use?

I use Ghostery, which both blocks the tracking and (optionally) tells you which sites are blocked.

The main AI page sells you to:

Google Analytics
Google Adsense
Quantcast
AdHere
Federated Media
Advertising.com
Tribal Analytics
Adsense
Comscore Beacon
Crowd Science
Quantcast
Valueclick Mediaplex

and more.

The actual forum pages add Viglink and a few others. More than I can keep track of.



Do yourself a favor. If you install Ghostery, you are unlikely to get any more porn from AI.

It appears that the new windows arose from redirects from the domain easypicturehost.com. The forum pages include the following script:

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://easypicturehost.com/icons/js/ad.js"></script>

though the behavior is not obvious from the script itself, which only Omniweb exhibited of the browsers that I tried. The easypicturehost.com domain looks suspect to me, so I'm not sure why its scripts are on AI. Hostgator appear to be hosting it.
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post #76 of 76
6/13/11 at 6:37pm
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I've heard the advice, more than once, to turn javascript off. I thought tho, that a site like AI could be trusted.

Have you looked into Ghostery? Its scary how many trackers there are who all get sold info every time you click antything

I have Ghostery running with Safari, but it doesn't see anything related to this. I guess it is not tracking javascript execution per se.

I'm going to set up some dummy pages to see if I can figure out exactly what the script is doing. I still don't understand why it is called in AI's forum pages. The top level of the easypicture.com website is blank, and googling the domain doesn't turn up anything comforting.

Maybe someone from AI could confirm if it is legit?
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