Originally Posted by SDW2001
Also well said.
I wouldn't call him a "liberal" exactly. He's more of a progressive-socialist with dictatorial tendencies. He has a lot more in common with say, Marx, than he does true "liberals" of the past. Handing out corporate welfare doesn't make one a conservative. In fact, I'd argue that doing so is antithetical to conservative principles. This is one reason there is a lot of conservative opposition to TARP and other bailouts.
Eh..."compares well" doesn't mean "equivalent to."
That's your thought, and you're welcome to it. As she is welcome to hers.
There are many women (from what I've read) that have abortions that are not botched at all, yet they regret the decision. In fact, Norma McCorvey ("Jane Roe") is now a member of the pro-life movement. Who are you to tell them their time is better spent elsewhere?
Why, because she opposes abortion and thinks it is morally wrong? She has every right to make her case, whether or not people happen to agree. Liberals do this all the time. Liberals do this HERE. You know, tonton, it's my opinion that your time could be better spent going out and directly helping the poor rather than arguing that government should help more. See how this works?
How is that hatred? He believes that people who have abortions are taking a life. You don't. He's not professing hatred, he's decrying what he sees as the taking of life. That's not hatred. You simply can't stand that he has a different view. Gee, there's a surprise.
That's another trick liberal use...reframing and re-terming things. What you call "reproductive choice" is, in fact, taking a life. Right or wrong, that's what it is.
Most religious people (not just Christians) agree that God does not support this, and in fact condemns it.
Any hate you have seen is merely the reflection of the hatred you project. In fact, a mirror image is really the perfect metaphor. You condemn, say, Fellows for drawing different conclusions than you. You tell him he's ignorant, insinuate he cannot comprehend the complexity of the issue, and accuse him of intellectual laziness. And he's the one who's hateful?
Here, again, you show your complete intolerance of those with different views. The woman in the sermon was trying to communicate to others that she felt taking a life was wrong. She feels abortion should be illegal as a result. I don't agree with that, but she is certainly free to argue for what she feels is the right thing. Incidentally, how do you think others feel about your position? Millions of people believe that you are the one spewing hate. They view you as someone that argues for the taking of life, abortion as birth control, confiscatory tax rates, an opponent of religious expression and more. So who is the one who spews hatred?
*Just to clarify my own views here for second:
1) I believe strongly that life begins at conception.
2) I have serious problems with Roe v. Wade. It is was a poor decision...primarily because the USSC invented a Constitutional right where none existed.
3) Number 2 aside, I believe the primary responsibility for making the decision on whether or not to end that life lies with the mother...subject to certain limitations (length of pregnancy, for example).
4) Following up #3, I think states and localities should have ability to restrict or even prevent legal abortion under their powers under the 10th Amendment.
5) If abortion rights were on the ballot in my state, I would certainly vote to keep abortion legal.
6) Finally, I oppose taxpayer-funded abortion.
and on gay marriage:
I support civil unions, not gay marriage. Granted, we're basically down to the word marriage here...but that's important. Marriage is what it is. As I'm fond of saying.."words mean stuff."