Originally Posted by jazzguru
Sure. I pick Obama.
Second! All in favor.....
Originally Posted by BR
Assuming what he did is even worthy of resignation--with which I still disagree,
but regardless--could someone else step down and accept punishment for Weiner's impropriety? Would that be acceptable?
Perhaps you could explain that? This notion that lying about sex or related issues doesn't matter is bogus, especially in light of what he did. He didn't just tell a lie...he engaged in a pattern of reckless, immoral behavior. Then he got caught. Then he conducted a premeditated Campaign of Lies, holding interviews in his office and lying to reporters, former girlfriends,
friends, associates and everyone on the planet. The questions are:
1. How can anyone ever trust anything he says again?
2. Isn't he embarrassed enough to resign?
3. Where is the moral
outrage? He sent pictures of his junk to women who were not his wife and had cybersex with them. Is this right? Does anyone care?
4. Don't you question his judgement? See #3. Would you say a member of Congress--a public office--who sends pictures of his junk over freaking SOCIAL NETWORKING sites has good judgement? Who could be so stupid in today's world? Wouldn't you question my judgement as a teacher if I put up pictures of myself on Facebook that were highly inappropriate? Of course you would.
5.Since there appear to be even more women and girls under 18 involved (at least one), doesn't that put him in a compromising position? Going back to #1...what if he really DID have sex with some of these women. What if the woman or women in question try to extort political favors out of him to keep that quiet? What if his political enemies contact those women and get them to do the same...or even threaten to release more details?
Now I know what you're going to say: SDW, you have no proof of that! This is, at least, what I think
you and certain other posters (cough...tonton!) will argue. Well you're absolutely correct. But this also goes back to point #1...how we can believe anything the man says? His word is clearly crap. He's already shown a willingness to lie to avoid embarrassment. How can be sure a this member of the U.S. House of Representatives isn't compromised professionally?
Originally Posted by tonton
The second part about MJ's post is true (about the lying) but the first part is speculation, and definitely not "true enough". It shows a complete ignorance about what people do within their own definition of marriage. Who knows... maybe it was Mrs. Wiener posting the pics using her husband's account. Or maybe they posted it together. The fact is, you can't judge him for that. You can judge him for the knee-jerk defensiveness, however.
You have to be kidding me. By that logic, it's possible their definition of marriage allowed Bill Clinton to the be the father of their child. Hmmm?
The difference with Republicans who get caught with their pants down is the hypocrisy. We don't see Wiener going around and saying how evil sex messaging is.
As I've stated, this is a clever thing Democrats have done. They take no moral stand, so when they get caught failing, they aren't hypocrites. Kudos!