Apple may freeze new Mac introductions until release of Mac OS X Lion - Page 2

Originally Posted by shompa

Io5 delayed. Almost 4month after schedule
Iphone 5 delayed because Ios5 delayed
Ipad2 still has huge production problems. Was about 2 month late when released.
The new Imac: People who ordered custom build SSD imacs has waited 4-6 weeks and still not got the imacs
no macmini refresh for a year
no macbook air refresh almost a year
no macbook refresh almost a year
no macpro refresh over a year. New intel CPUs released 2 month ago. MacPro usually got newest CPU a couple of month before official release.
Ipod classic not updated for almost 2 years. There are hard drives that could enable a 320gig model.
Time capsule has not been updated for years. 3 terra disk available.

How shall Apple do if they want to have a release window of 3-4 weeks between products?

On time?: Ipod touch. ipod nano, appleTV take3

To be introduced 2011:
AppleTV LCD version

q1 2012
Ipad3. (they have to wait for 28nm ARM processors)

Stupidity: Kill of Xserver Xraid
Apple builds computer centre for 500 million and uses HP servers instead of Xserve/Xraid. I would sell my Apples shares if I find out that they use windows server.

Fun: Steves current obsession is Retina displays and Anoretic computers. Lets hope for an all retina display lineup. From Iphone to 30 inch cinema display.

Sad: Apple computer is dead. Its all about Ios/Iphone/Ipad. I know that Apple make most of its money from Iphone. The backlash against Apple has started with fAndroid. Using 5 year old CPUs in many computers is not good.

interesting: Apples exclusive agreement with intel runs out any day now. After that Apple can use AMD/ARM cpus in their lineup.

Originally Posted by njmax

Is it true that Lion will not have Rosetta to run older applications?

Originally Posted by njmax

Well, I would love to "step into the new century", but that can be a challenge when you are on a budget. I would love to buy the latest and greatest of everything, but have to pace my self and my wallet.

Originally Posted by Wiggin

I'm sorry, I know I'm going to be tagged as overly pessimistic here, but Lion is not nearly as revolutionary as previous OS X upgrades have been. Delaying hardware releases out of convenience for customers so they don't need to download it makes sense. Especially since in the past they'd just slip an upgrade disk into the box before shipping it, and now there are no upgrade disks.

Delaying the hardware because they are locking it into Lion so you can't downgrade to Snow Leopard is the more likely reason.

Originally Posted by commun5

A lot of folks will say: No Rosetta, no Lion.

Originally Posted by min_t

makes no sense at all. the upgrade is free for new mac purchases. delaying the release of new hardware inconveniences the buyer and is a potential lost sale.

Originally Posted by yuusharo

Its true, Rosetta will not be supported at all in Lion, not even as an optional download. You'll have to stick with Snow Leopard if you have applications that depend on it.

Originally Posted by Multimedia

I think it is the most Revolutionary version yet because it's MPG centric: Multi-Touch, Physics, Gestures.

Originally Posted by Apple ][

I still have older machines running OS 9 if I absolutely need to use some old software, which is quite rare in my case at least.

Originally Posted by shompa

no macbook air refresh almost a year
no macpro refresh over a year. New intel CPUs released 2 month ago. MacPro usually got newest CPU a couple of month before official release.

Originally Posted by Bregalad

I still use some PowerPC apps. If I was in the market for a new Mac I'd have two choices: (1) buy right away and stick with Snow Leopard, or (2) "obtain" a copy of Snow Leopard Server and run it in a virtual machine.

But I'm not in the market this year. Next year I'll have rid myself of PPC software except old games I rarely play, Thunderbolt peripherals should exist and Apple may finally support my USB 3.0 drive array at full speed.

Originally Posted by Bregalad

...Next year I'll have rid myself of PPC software except old games I rarely play, Thunderbolt peripherals should exist and Apple may finally support my USB 3.0 drive array at full speed.

Originally Posted by Rob55

I wouldn't hold my breath on that last part unless Apple or someone else makes a Thunderbolt to USB3.0 adaptor.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

Except no chips exist, so they can't possibly be updated. Normally Mac Pro refreshes go a year and a half between, so we're not overdue, anyway.



You're right. It's idiotic vertically. However...



More so. This won't happen EVER.



What "schedule"? What "delay"? You can't possibly know this.



See above.



So it was late... when it was released early. Okay.



That's perfectly normal.



And this is the only part of your quote with which I agree. Except your numbers are off.



And? Average time is a year and a half.



Having absolutely nothing to do with the Mac Pro. The Mac Pro uses these. Xeon E5 LGA 1356. The Mac Pro has always used those. They're not due until Q4.



It's dead. The ten year anniversary will be its funeral.



Apple has never updated the Time Capsule's capacity with any semblance of urgency.



Posts don't allow enough to adequately express how much this won't happen.



1. No one wants beautifully-designed server hardware.
2. Apple's replacing the XServe/Mac Pro/something later this year. Stay tuned.



Are... you talking about people still using PPC Macs? I don't get this.



Interesting: How you think you could possibly know this or that it can even happen.



You've seen this, yes? Can't work on AMD chips. Not going to happen ever.

Originally Posted by zeph

You could always backup your current machine onto an external drive and just boot from that when you need to access your legacy stuff.

That's what I plan to do anyway.

Originally Posted by xgman

are you on a debating team or something?

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Instead, the Mac maker is said to be locked on waiting till it can image the new notebooks with a Gold Master build of Lion so that buyers are afforded the latest and greatest Apple experience.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

When you're faced with that. much. wrong., there's not much more you can do than refute every point. I did what I could. Some things were right, some things no one can know, but most was just. plain. wrong.

Originally Posted by Rob55

I wouldn't hold my breath on that last part unless Apple or someone else makes a Thunderbolt to USB3.0 adaptor.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

Why? When everyone has Thunderbolt, no one will NEED a USB adapter.

Originally Posted by Apple ][

Touch is where it's at. I hardly ever use a mouse anymore and I probably won't ever buy one again for as long as I live. The Magic Trackpad is great, and I would recommend that everybody gets one.

Originally Posted by mstone

Good. Now I know who to call on when some old file is needed which was saved with a bad filename like graphic designers used to do in the 90s using option character as in 'final'. Impossible to even list the directory using OS X, Windows or UNIX with that character in the filename.

Originally Posted by Multimedia

Me too. I'm a heavy iPad 2 user and just ordered my first Magic Trackpad from B&H this morning for use with my Mac Pro and Kensington Turbo Mouse I've been using since 1985.

Originally Posted by svnipp

I haven't tried it in OS X, but in Unix you could simply do an 'ls -li' which will allow you to see the inode number of the file and then you a 'find -inum # -exec' to rename the file. Just a thought. I only assume that since OS X is basically a Unix variant that this would work similarly there also.

Originally Posted by dagamer34

It'll be a while, especially if we're talking worldwide (currently around 3%) instead of just the US (5%).

Originally Posted by commun5

A lot of folks will say: No Rosetta, no Lion.

Originally Posted by njmax

"Lion comes out next month, so it makes sense for Apple to wait a month until they release new models. It's a no brainer. And for anybody complaining about rosetta, get with the times and step into the new century."


Well, I would love to "step into the new century", but that can be a challenge when you are on a budget. I would love to buy the latest and greatest of everything, but have to pace my self and my wallet.

Originally Posted by modernmagic

Sounds, like it would be easier to own 2 macs. I have a 2000 Pismo Powerbook for any older software.

Originally Posted by Object-X

It seems ironic that the only software I own that uses Rosetta is Rosetta Stone language software.

Originally Posted by min_t

makes no sense at all. the upgrade is free for new mac purchases. delaying the release of new hardware inconveniences the buyer and is a potential lost sale.

Originally Posted by physguy

Not sure what one has to do with the other. I would be almost certain (never certain until tested) that the current iWeb will still run on Lion, just would be able to buy it going forward. Of course it hasn't been update for something like 2 years in any case.

Originally Posted by Smiles77

Oh no, you can install iWeb fine on your Lion machine. The death of iWeb is merely the removal of site hosting (which you cannot avoid as it occurs server-side) and no further updates to iWeb. Your concerns about iWeb's demise should not impede your upgrade to Lion in the slightest.

Originally Posted by thefinite

iWeb still works in Lion, so there's no reason there to delay upgrading. Also, you can use iWeb to publish to your own host via FTP. It's true Apple won't be updating iWeb anymore, but iDVD has already gone through two iLife cycles without an update and it still works. As long as you don't need MobileMe and publish your site to a new host, you'll be able to use iWeb for at least another few years.

Originally Posted by Marvin

Even with an upgrade being free, it's not likely people will immediately know about it or how to install it. I'd say it's far better to ship them with the latest OS and that way ensure that there's a good base of 6-7 million people on Lion over the next 6 months.

Originally Posted by sflocal

Unfortunately, I'm one of those 37. I have an HP Color LaserJet 2840 that requires Rosetta. It is a very expensive printer and it would be an absolute shame if it is not supported in Lion.

Originally Posted by modernmagic

You stats seem to be out of date. As of the end of 2010 Apple was already at 9.7% (Gartner's Preliminary U.S. PC Vendor Unit Shipment Estimates for 4Q10 (Thousands of Units)