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post #42 of 79
For all those thinking Sprint is the savior of unlimited plans, this is what the CEO of Sprint mentioned several months ago:

"We can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable. If you run an all-you-can-eat buffet, but you have the New England Patriots come in and the whole team spends a whole day there, I can't afford to do that anymore.”

http://www.precentral.net/hesse-too-...ed-data-sprint
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Some people, eh? They live in Hicktown USA and so they feel like they can ruin it for everybody else.


On my last road trip I stayed in 4 hotels, in every hotel the free hotel wireless was slower and more prone to disconnect than my 3G service not to mention having to re-login every time I put the phone to sleep. At a couple of rest stops I was able to get over 4 mbps compared to usually much less than 1 mbps in the hotels. In fact I can get faster 3G service at my house than I can get DSL.
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To me, 3G is useless as I have Wi-Fi anywhere I'd be able to use data.

So there's that.

Same here. Most civilized places in the world have Wifi. 3g makes no sense at all for me. It's slow, it's expensive and you have these ridiculous datacaps so that you can barely check your damn email.
post #46 of 79
My family has 3 iPhones. All 3 together use probably around 2GB or less. We are grandfathered into the unlimited plan at $30/phone for data. If Verizon's rate turned out to be a family plan, we might actually save money. We might have to buy more than the 2 gigs. But, sure 3 gigs would cost less than the $90 we are spending now.

I still think $30 for 2G is a complete rip-off. Don't get me wrong. But, I'm being optimistic....because if it turns out to be as bad as it sounds: $30 for 2G each, I would consider going old school and just forget about the whole darn smart phone thing. If I have to bend over and take it where the sun won't shine just to have a smart phone, I will just do without. We survived without it for years, we can survive without it again. They might get the message when smart phone sales plummet.

In the end, I think Google, Apple, Motorola, Micro$oft, HTC and other hardware makers will come to the rescue. They will be hurt by unrealistic pricing as much or more than consumers.

As for my usage, well 2 or 3 gigs for my family would probably do be enough. I hate to admit that because I feel like I'm "giving in". But, the reality is that I use Pandora a lot. I use the web all I can stand on ATT's crappy 3G network, as well as other typical usage such as maps and email. My son uses his as much as he wants. He uses the most data at around 1 gig or so (watching YouTube). My wife rarely uses data.

So, I could get by on 3 GB for the family.
post #47 of 79
You can thank all of the video apps for this (Skype, Facetime, Netflix, Hulu, etc). There simply isn't enough capacity for 300 million Americans to stream video. So, the carriers are forced to ration it.
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Yeah, that's true. I forgot about that movie.

perhaps the original poster was thinking they might need to avoid use of prohibited words.

Myself - I prefer bastages - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bastages
post #49 of 79
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Well i did a quick look to see what my carrier is offering and it converts to 9 GB for ~20 USD, so i'd say it's bend over rape going on here.

where do you live? please save all of us who being held captive by verizon.
post #50 of 79
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be realistic how many users watch movies over 3g?

To me the iPad wi-fi is useless without 3g...I am glad I got the 3g from At&t.

Tethering is separate from your regular phone bill kido.
I have high speed wifi at my hotel front desk job so I could down load a movie in no time. And I also have high speed Internet at home where I use my airport express for the wireless.
So screw the 3G version iPad. I ain't dishing out anymore money to them greedy mofos!!
And if AT&T starts messing up I'll toss my iPhone in the canal and go metro pcs. I swear!!
I really don't need all that high end crap anyway.Internet in my pocket is alright but I could l easily without a phone with internet access.
post #51 of 79
I was at Fry's to buy my son a monitor. They had a nice LG 23" for 219 on sale.. They also have a Internet price match guarantee... So I loaded up Newegg on my iPhone and sure enough they had it on sale for 159 with free shipping and no tax. Begrudgingly they matched the price....

Internet is indispensable.... I won't give up my iPhone, I will just look for ways it can pay me.
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I'm no spelling nazi, but I think that you mean - Bastards !!!

Grammar Nazis!

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post #53 of 79
Oooh! This new era of cloud computing is so amazing! Netflicks, Amazon Prime, Roku, millions of Apps on my iPhone. Lion and all the orgasmic goodness to come!

Oh, what's this? My DSL provider (At&t) instituted data caps. Oh, my. After spending a bit of time I finally found the At&t page where they say they show my data useage. Oh Oh! I guess it's bye bye to Netflix.

Oh well, I have my iPhone and I can stream my iTunes music very soon.

Oh Oh! My wireless provider, Verizon, the only one that offer me a working signal where I work and live has decided to begin naughty rate hikes for cellular data.

I worry about our nation's wealthy people. I hope they won't be harmed by this. After all, they are smarter than me and we need them to be able to use lots of data to keep our economy rich.

I'm going to Walmart tomorrow and get a TracPhone.
post #54 of 79
pfft. whatever.

i pay $25/month. unlimited text. unlimited data. 300 minutes only, but who talks anymore? and i can use skype anyway. If you want 1200 minutes, way more than anyone needs, it's still only $45/month.

No Contract. I can stop anytime. Android phone was only $150, cheaper than most contract phones. Sprint network is just about as big as Verizon's (it's CDMA after all) and roaming is not needed even in rural areas.

I get full speed until 5 GB then I am throttled (has never happened). But at least I'm not limited.

I tether for free with my rooted custom firmware Android 2.3 Optimus V. With Gingerbread and the CPU overclocked my benchmarks are on par with the Droid X running 2.2.

Only disadvantages are small screen (I don't want a huge android phone anyway) and no Flash support (who cares, Apple doesn't have it either, and mobile stuff is all MP4 and app based). The phone is basically slightly better than the iPhone 3GS. Way better because of the software flexibility.

I even have the Netflix app that doesn't check to make sure you have phones that Netflix wants you to buy. I use Pandora at the same time as free Google Navigation on my car trips.

If you don't have Virgin Mobile you are THROWING YOUR MONEY AWAY!
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OK, I'm in a peculiar situation. My wife has a blackberry through work, so we didn't desperately need a smartphone "right this second" and never got around to getting one. At home we have a "feature" phone (some lame Samsung or another). But the thing is, we pay nothing to use the blackberry, and our private cell is on a legacy program through Verizon, for $29.95 a month - with taxes, that's a final cost of $38.00 give or take 30 cents (300 anytime minutes, 100 text messages). But, I always thought it would be nice to get an iPhone, or simply upgrade to another plan. So Sunday we went to a Verizon store and talked to two different associates. Tell you what - we had a lot of laughs. See, you can't get a plan as cheap as ours nowadays - with ANY phone, they advised us to stick to what we have because we are grandfathered in, and the plan doesn't exist otherwise. And the iPhone? Forget it! No way. Way, way too costly. Sticking with the free blackberry - sure it sucks, getting on the www. is poky, but you know what? It works, and it's free. I also have an iPod Touch 4G, and between that, my sh|tty Samsung feature phone and the blackberry, we're set. All for $38 a month, total.

My next move is to look at other options. What's the deal with Virgin? I heard good things. How's the coverage?

Coverage is great. I have the Optimus V. Basically, you get the Sprint network without roaming capability. Hasn't been a problem for me. I travel between Ohio and Massachusetts through West Virginia and I don't have any major problems.

To get the most out of it, I rooted the Optimus and installed a custom 2.3 gingerbread firmware, which enables WiFi tethering (awesome). There is lots of support for the Optimus V on the XDA forums and Android Forums. I overclock to 806 MHz

There were a couple days where 3G or data totally stopped working for a while, but that was very rare and I have seen that same kind of glitch happen with a friend's iPhone 3GS on AT&T, too.

The nice thing is the flexibility. If you run out of those 300 minutes, you can restart your month early, top up and pay 10cents/minute, or just forget about it and use Skype and keep on using your unlimited internet

Remember, those 300 minutes have no mobile to mobile, night/weekend, and if you call Voicemail, that costs minutes too. I have yet to use all 300 of my minutes though.

Best choices are Optimus V or a Blackberry. Come on, a Blackberry for $25/month, that's insane. The other keyboard-equipped samsung Android phone isn't so great.

Remember the Optimus V has an ARM6 processor so no flash support

See my above post, which was probably more angry than it had to be. Some guys on the XDA forums or somewhere have the Netflix app without the device checking software that prevents you from using it on unsupported Android phones. I have no idea why Netflix did that but I guess they just didn't test it on everything.

I think Virgin is worth a try. If you hate it, you are only out $25, you can just sell the phone on eBay! Or...well I guess you could just return it too haha

Oh yeah...all my custom stuff probably got rid of the Virgin activation program, plus Virgin's stupid carrier programs that everyone puts on phones (my friend's Verizon phone won't let you get rid of the Blockbuster app. Really???). I know I can get it back to factory state but I haven't tried it and forget how :-)

If you are comfortable with rooting, custom firmware, geeky stuff, etc, the phone is AMAZING. If not, it's still a GREAT 2.2 Android phone and the Optimus V is pretty new, and pretty solid, it's your typical reliable LG phone without the bells and whistles.


Oh yeah, it comes with a 2 GB SD card, and not much onboard storage. Good amount of RAM though (512mb i think)
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Oooh! This new era of cloud computing is so amazing! Netflicks, Amazon Prime, Roku, millions of Apps on my iPhone. Lion and all the orgasmic goodness to come!

Oh, what's this? My DSL provider (At&t) instituted data caps. Oh, my. After spending a bit of time I finally found the At&t page where they say they show my data useage. Oh Oh! I guess it's bye bye to Netflix.

Oh well, I have my iPhone and I can stream my iTunes music very soon.

Oh Oh! My wireless provider, Verizon, the only one that offer me a working signal where I work and live has decided to begin naughty rate hikes for cellular data.

I worry about our nation's wealthy people. I hope they won't be harmed by this. After all, they are smarter than me and we need them to be able to use lots of data to keep our economy rich.

I'm going to Walmart tomorrow and get a TracPhone.

TracPhone is great, but check out Virgin Mobile! Sorry to spam...but it is the most amazing smartphone deal ever.
post #57 of 79
this is genius!

for so long, all of us ATT users had to deal with the Verizon folks constantly talking sh-t about their great company. I never understood the passion for a company (any company) that quite frankly doesn't care for anyone. They care about your wallet.


And here you have it folks. Thanks for coming!


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Originally Posted by FineWine View Post

OK, I'm in a peculiar situation. My wife has a blackberry through work, so we didn't desperately need a smartphone "right this second" and never got around to getting one. At home we have a "feature" phone (some lame Samsung or another). But the thing is, we pay nothing to use the blackberry, and our private cell is on a legacy program through Verizon, for $29.95 a month - with taxes, that's a final cost of $38.00 give or take 30 cents (300 anytime minutes, 100 text messages). But, I always thought it would be nice to get an iPhone, or simply upgrade to another plan. So Sunday we went to a Verizon store and talked to two different associates. Tell you what - we had a lot of laughs. See, you can't get a plan as cheap as ours nowadays - with ANY phone, they advised us to stick to what we have because we are grandfathered in, and the plan doesn't exist otherwise. And the iPhone? Forget it! No way. Way, way too costly. Sticking with the free blackberry - sure it sucks, getting on the www. is poky, but you know what? It works, and it's free. I also have an iPod Touch 4G, and between that, my sh|tty Samsung feature phone and the blackberry, we're set. All for $38 a month, total.

My next move is to look at other options. What's the deal with Virgin? I heard good things. How's the coverage?

Virgin uses Sprint's 3G network. It had an unlimited $45/month plan up until a couple of months ago, but now is capped at 5GB (I think).

I've had an unlimited Sprint 3G plan for a very long time, but I tried the Virgin plan until it brought in a cap. I found that even though the network was the same, Virgin's connectivity was less that robust compared to Sprint's. I had about three times as many dropped connections with Virgin than I get with Sprint.
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If you signup with T-Mobile today for an unlimited data plan, and then AT&T buys T-Mobile, do you end up with a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan for your iPhone?

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If you signup with T-Mobile today for an unlimited data plan, and then AT&T buys T-Mobile, do you end up with a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan for your iPhone?

We don't know yet. Firstly because the purchase hasn't gone through and secondly because AT&T could easily go either way with that.

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post #61 of 79
Sprint just got a life line from Verizon......

I hope Sprint can handle the mass exodus from Verizon as people's contracts expire or they need to upgrade their phones....

AT&T plans are not much better, but they might pick up a lot of people from Verizon as well...
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Originally Posted by jd_in_sb View Post

If you signup with T-Mobile today for an unlimited data plan, and then AT&T buys T-Mobile, do you end up with a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan for your iPhone?

You can't...T-mobile Ditched Unlimited data a month ago. Your too late.
post #63 of 79
Looks like I'm never getting on this smart phone bandwagon.

We only have Verizon here for all intents and purposes.
post #64 of 79
Apple Inc. should just open their own cellular company!
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Problem solved with pdanet on iphone (jailbroken) or android. Use the existing $30 mo unlimited plan and have tethering with no caps or bs fees. This bs will eventually push people to jailbreak, it's inevitable.
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Apple Inc. should just open their own cellular company!

Abject nonsense.

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Problem solved with pdanet on iphone (jailbroken) or android. Use the existing $30 mo unlimited plan and have tethering with no caps or bs fees. This bs will eventually push people to jailbreak, it's inevitable.

Tell me, good sir, how does one acquire an unlimited data plan via jailbreaking once it is impossible to actually have an unlimited data plan?

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Abject nonsense.



Tell me, good sir, how does one acquire an unlimited data plan via jailbreaking once it is impossible to actually have an unlimited data plan?

Verizon has an unlimited data plan that you use for web browsing, etc on your phone for $30 mo. pdanet uses this, not a separate tethering account. Hence the pdanet tether uses your existing unlimited data. Is it violating tos, maybe.

You can go on vz right now, the $30 unlimited data plan is still available.
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where do you live? please save all of us who being held captive by verizon.

Europe . Sorry.

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post #69 of 79
There's a changing dynamics in a way we handle our calls, multimedia & browsing usage. Taking example of Google Chromebook: a laptop with no hard drive, no software programs on board, no files or folders, no traditional operating system. All it does is connect to the Web. files, programs, e-mail and photos are all in the cloud, meaning on Web sites.

Then theres Apples new iCloud initiative. These are not the only mega-trends. There're enormous shifts going in TV and movie watching. Those, too, are raining down from the cloud. And for phone calls, more and more people avoid using up their cellular minutes by relying on the Internet to carry their voices, using apps like Skype and Line2.

All of these mega-trends consume enormous amounts of bandwidth. All of that uploading and downloading, all of that syncing, all of that cloud computing assumes you have a fast & infinite access to the Internet. These are all great and exciting and money-saving.

And that means that theyre about to run into another, far less exciting mega-trend: data caps. We can understand the cellphone carriers point of view. All of these iPhones and Android phones use enormous amounts of wireless cellular capacity, and it was slowing down the connections for everyone. Caps are necessary.

AT&T has done it. Verizon is doing it. The point is how are we supposed to enjoy our cloud if were allowed only selective access to it? How is the bold new world of online computing going to take off if the meter is racking up punishing overage charges every time we look at our photos? But thats not the worst mega-trend. The worst is caps on home data plans. Thats right: Time Warner, Comcast and other broadband providers are putting limits on how much data you get every month, even at home.

It's the collision course out there.
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Hari5 (whoever) posting just above me has a 'good eye' on things

And is only one I noticed to mention this ...

iCloud - just as it's ready to go, here comes bullshit from Cell Phone Folks

Whether or not they are 'bastards' or 'basterds'

For damn sure they're Bass Turds

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All the 'Hopes and Dreams and Future Promise' of iCloud

Shot to hell by greedy ass Middle Men

Least in the 'short run'

We'll see about the 'long run'

Just hope it won't take another 10 to 20 years to get there

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Verizon has an unlimited data plan that you use for web browsing, etc on your phone for $30 mo. pdanet uses this, not a separate tethering account. Hence the pdanet tether uses your existing unlimited data. Is it violating tos, maybe.

You can go on vz right now, the $30 unlimited data plan is still available.

That doesn't answer my question at all.

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Abject nonsense.

I don't think Apple possibly starting a cellular company is abject nonsense. Think about the fact that Apple like to control the entire user experience adn the only major negative to that exerience are the wireless companies. I don't think they are planning on implmenting one any time soon, but if the wireless carriers keep limiting data so greatly, Apple may just decide to pull the trigger on it.
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I don't think Apple possibly starting a cellular company is abject nonsense. Think about the fact that Apple like to control the entire user experience adn the only major negative to that exerience are the wireless companies. I don't think they are planning on implmenting one any time soon, but if the wireless carriers keep limiting data so greatly, Apple may just decide to pull the trigger on it.

Seventy billion dollars doesn't even begin to pay for building archaic cell towers with a ten mile range that cover the entire planet. Don't kid yourself.

And that's just hardware. They'd also need bandwidth licensing in every single country.

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That doesn't answer my question at all.

They've never said anything about getting rid of unlimited data, this just concerns tethering data plans. If they ever cut unlimited data then pdanet will be no better than using the tethering plans. If they cut unlimited data though, you might as well kiss the icloud experiment goodbye and skype, social gaming, facebook, etc etc anything that uses much data.
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They've never said anything about getting rid of unlimited data, this just concerns tethering data plans. If they ever cut unlimited data then pdanet will be no better than using the tethering plans. If they cut unlimited data though, you might as well kiss the icloud experiment goodbye and skype, social gaming, facebook, etc etc anything that uses much data.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/20...at-30-for-2gb/

"Data plans:
2GB $30/month
5GB $50/month
10GB $80/month

If you would like to add tethering on to any of those packages, you can purchase 2GB of data at an additional cost of $20 per month.

Data plans w/ tethering:
4GB $50/month
7GB $70/month
12GB $100/month
If you go over your purchased amount of data, it will cost you $10 per 1GB."

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/20...start-in-july/


It was NOT that hard to find links refuting your claim of no mention.

They've been talking about tiered data since late last year, and now we know they are launching.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/20...at-30-for-2gb/

"Data plans:
2GB – $30/month
5GB – $50/month
10GB – $80/month

If you would like to add tethering on to any of those packages, you can purchase 2GB of data at an additional cost of $20 per month.

Data plans w/ tethering:
4GB – $50/month
7GB – $70/month
12GB – $100/month
If you go over your purchased amount of data, it will cost you $10 per 1GB."

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/20...start-in-july/


It was NOT that hard to find links refuting your claim of no mention.

They've been talking about tiered data since late last year, and now we know they are launching.

Also in there.....
We have even heard mention of current customers being allowed to upgrade to a new device after July 7 though, and continue to keep their unlimited data, but are awaiting further clarification on that.

As I've said before, ending unlimited data really calls into question the viability of smart phones and cloud based computing in my opinion. With HD videos you can easily tear through 2gb in a few hours. I believe at some point if a plan like this goes through you could expect apple to turn the screws on vz

As a side note, this would basically kill the chromebook.
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If they cut unlimited data though, you might as well kiss the icloud experiment goodbye

Except iCloud doesn't sync over 3G anyway.

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Except iCloud doesn't sync over 3G anyway.

True, initially it wont. I don't believe it will stay that way. Some people don't have wifi and wont pay for a tether to get it. I expect a 3g sync as an option eventually.
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Also in there.....
We have even heard mention of current customers being allowed to upgrade to a new device after July 7 though, and continue to keep their unlimited data, but are awaiting further clarification on that.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/21...ers-and-lines/

As far as we're concerned, yes grandfathering will take effect. It's not official but it's something, and most material such as this ends up manifesting as truth from the Droid sites.

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existing customers may be able to keep their current pricing and data plan when renewing or upgrading as long as they are locked in prior to 7/7. And from what weve been told, thats a forever type of thing as in, you can upgrade a year from now and still hang out with your best friend, the unlimited data plan.
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