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Apple's component suppliers in Taiwan are gearing up and preparing materials for the production of the iPhone 5 and iPad 3, set to hit the market in October, according to a new report.

Citing sources in Apple's supply chain, DigiTimes reported on Friday that the fifth-generation iPhone and third-generation iPad will debut in September, and go on sale in October. It was said that Apple will only launch one new iPhone model, while the iPad 3 was just recently added to production schedule.

"Apple is considering designing an even thinner and lighter tablet PC with its panel resolution increasing to 250dpi," the report said. No details on what the next iPhone might feature were given.

Apple is expected to produce between 6 million and 7 million iPhone 5 units in the third quarter, and with the iPhone 4, total shipments will reach 24 million to 25 million units. And with the supposed launch of a third-generation iPad, total iPad sales could crack 40 million in 2011.

Named in the report are suppliers Simplo Technologies and Dynapack International Technology as battery suppliers; TPK Holding and Wintek for touch panels; Catcher supplying chassis; and Largan Precision providing cameras. As usual the devices will be assembled by Foxconn.

While a fifth-generation iPhone is widely expected to launch later this year, rumors of a third-generation iPad launching as well are not new, but still surprising. The iPad 2 launched in March, and Apple even appeared to downplay rumors of a new iPad arriving this year by declaring 2011 the "Year of iPad 2."

Friday's news contradicts a report from earlier this week that pegged a so-called "iPad 3" launch in 2012. FBR Capital Markets analyst Craig Berger said his supply chain sources indicated a prototype iPad 3 would be made early next year.

And Apple has even struggled to meet demand for the iPad 2 since it went on sale earlier this year. Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook said crushing demand for the second-generation tablet created "the mother of all backlogs" for Apple.



As for the so-called iPhone 5, most rumors have suggested that the upgrade will be relatively modest, with the same design and an upgraded 8 megapixel camera. Alleged iPhone 5 components also showed that the LED flash could be moved farther from the lens to allow better picture quality and reduce red eye.

Still, other rumors have suggested that the new iPhone will sport a slightly larger screen, while one report from April claimed that the new device will be a "major redesign" with a multi-touch "gesture area" where the home button is currently located, along with a 3.7-inch display.
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I'd be surprised if it's not around $400 by the year end.
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I find a 2nd new iPad unlikely for 2011 but if they do they will have the tablet market locked down for the foreseeable future.
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I'd be surprised if it's not around $400 by the year end.

It'll shuffle between 320 and 340 like it has all year. And it'll keep doing that until the whiners in Wall Street see a press release saying Steve Jobs is back.

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I find a 2nd new iPad unlikely for 2011 but if they do they will have the tablet market locked down for the foreseeable future.

I agree, but I also think they already have locked down the market for the foreseeable future. Lack of apps ( especially netflix) have really hurt all other competitors...
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In other words, no-one has a clue what's coming up.
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In other words, no-one has a clue what's coming up.

Not Apple's stock, apparently.

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It'll shuffle between 320 and 340 like it has all year. And it'll keep doing that until the whiners in Wall Street see a press release saying Steve Jobs is back.

Guess you could see $350 before July, 18th.
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I find a 2nd new iPad unlikely for 2011 but if they do they will have the tablet market locked down for the foreseeable future.

The only reason I see for Apple to refresh the iPad this Fall is if they think there will be a marketing challenge from Android for Holiday sales. Note, I'm not saying there will be a legit hardware or software challenge from Android. But if come Holiday shopping season there are a bunch of "greatest thing since sliced bread" marketing campaigns for new Android tablets and Apple's offering is perceived as a 9-months old dinosaur, it could take some sales away. Remember, many consumers don't appreciate the differences between devices. They will just go out and buy little Sally and Jonny whatever they think is the latest-and-greatest.
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As others have pointed out on here, what is with this insistence that Apple will release another new iPad this year? When has apple EVER released 2 major revisions of a single product in the same year?
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Don't worry. 95-98% of all Apple rumors end up being false.

This "iPad 3 in 2011" rumor is amongst them. The people who make up these rumors are pulling them them out of a body orifice. I'll give you three guesses as to which, but you're only going to need one.
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As others have pointed out on here, what is with this insistence that Apple will release another new iPad this year? When has apple EVER released 2 major revisions of a single product in the same year?

It would be unusual in the iPhone/iPad production space, but it would definitely give the competition even more of a slap-down. The danger is that they don't do it and Samsung puts out a 2560x1600 tablet and makes Apple's iPad screens look terrible in comparison. That's not where Apple wants to be.

Suddenly Samsung can legitimately run ads showing a view of a tablet that looks like an iPad through rose-tinted blurry glasses, and then the glasses get pulled off, things get sharp, and you're looking at a Samsung tablet with ultra-res or whatever dorky name they're giving it. Sure, another tablet that you can't remember the name of, but still... and not that I want to give Samsung any ad ideas...
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Don't worry. 95-98% of all Apple rumors end up being false.

This "iPad 3 in 2011" rumor is amongst them. The people who make up these rumors are pulling them them out of a body orifice. I'll give you three guesses as to which, but you're only going to need one.

The left nostril?

Damnit, I always get this wrong!
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I give the chances of the iPad3 shipping in 2011 at below 5%. The only way that can happen is if there would be a sudden and unexpected increase in the yields for 9.7" 2048x1536 LEDs.
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It would be unusual in the iPhone/iPad production space, but it would definitely give the competition even more of a slap-down. The danger is that they don't do it and Samsung puts out a 2560x1600 tablet and makes Apple's iPad screens look terrible in comparison. That's not where Apple wants to be.

Suddenly Samsung can legitimately run ads showing a view of a tablet that looks like an iPad through rose-tinted blurry glasses, and then the glasses get pulled off, things get sharp, and you're looking at a Samsung tablet with ultra-res or whatever dorky name they're giving it. Sure, another tablet that you can't remember the name of, but still... and not that I want to give Samsung any ad ideas...

Oh please please please do. Then people can run buy the Samsung tablet... and I'll get iPad Pro when it comes out

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It'll shuffle between 320 and 340 like it has all year. And it'll keep doing that until the whiners in Wall Street see a press release saying Steve Jobs is back.

Nonsense. This has nothing to do with Steve.
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It would be unusual in the iPhone/iPad production space, but it would definitely give the competition even more of a slap-down. The danger is that they don't do it and Samsung puts out a 2560x1600 tablet and makes Apple's iPad screens look terrible in comparison. That's not where Apple wants to be.

Suddenly Samsung can legitimately run ads showing a view of a tablet that looks like an iPad through rose-tinted blurry glasses, and then the glasses get pulled off, things get sharp, and you're looking at a Samsung tablet with ultra-res or whatever dorky name they're giving it. Sure, another tablet that you can't remember the name of, but still... and not that I want to give Samsung any ad ideas...

I can imagine a Retina Display non-Apple tablet. It will run really slowly because the OS can't handle it. If it were an Android-based tablet, it would be 16-bit graphics. On a webOS tablet, it would be 18-bit graphics.

Either way, the device would lock up when rendering Flash on a web page. But hey, it'll be adequate for a photo slideshow, a $500 digital photo frame.
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iPad 3... really? Of all the rumours I have ever known, this one reeks of bull more than any other.
I wouldn't be surprised if this rumour was part of a dirty tactics campaign, conducted by a competitor to stall sales of iPad2.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I do not think it is out of the realms of possibility for a company such as Samsung to behave in such a way.
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I find a 2nd new iPad unlikely for 2011 but if they do they will have the tablet market locked down for the foreseeable future.

The fact that they already have the market locked down and the competitors scrambling is one of the main reasons I think this is unlikely also.

IMO there's not much point in an "iPad 3" unless there is an A6 chip to run it and we haven't had any rumours of A6's being near production as far as I recall.

The fact that there's *something* going on with the iPods this year and that Apple seems to be completely re-aligning their product release schedule makes me think there is an outside chance that the iPad 3 rumour is really a new product altogether like an iPhone nano or perhaps a new iPod touch. It could easily be just be nothing at all though.
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I call bullshit on the iPad 3 release. Production in q1 and release early in q2 (Apple's fiscal)... most likely.

... and an announcement of the iPhone 5 in September to be released in October. More bullshit... unless it's announced on Friday September 30th and released on Saturday October 1st. There is no way Apple will have a long wait between announcement and release... this aint the iPhone 1.
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One of the biggest things Apple could do would be to profitably bring the entry level price down to $399 for the holidays. It would literally blow the doors off the competition But important - they need to figure out if they could maintain a 30%+ margin. I'm not sure if that is possible or not

The iPad 2 is fantastic. I don't see a need to rush another incremental product out the door. Especially when they have been so challenged meeting the current demand. And, also, seeing how the Android/Playbook/HP efforts have failed

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I call bullshit on the iPad 3 release. Production in q1 and release early in q2 (Apple's fiscal)... most likely.
1.

Ok, I agree that it would be remarkable for Apple to launch a 3rd model so soon, but it's not outside the realms of the posslble.

a) Apple needs to ramp up production of tablets amazingly fast to deny Android any space in the market. That means that Apple needs to build completely new production facilities and get additional component supply. That provides an opportunity to build a model update.

b) By moving very fast at this early stage Apple can leave other tablet makers looking ridiculous and inflict lasting damage on their brands.

c) This kind of 'shock and awe' release schedule will push other tablet makers teams to breaking point. They're already working flat out trying to get a tablet product up and running, and the result is generally shoddy products. How much worse is the pressure if you know you're aiming for a fast moving target?

I'm not sure it's actually possible for Apple to launch an iPad-3 at this point, but if it is then there are good reasons for them to do so.
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I love new gear and products, but an iPad 3 just after the iPad 2 is going to alienate customers, especially if it's significantly better. I literally just bought an iPad 2 for my wife for her birthday next week (I have the original) which I'd have done regardless of knowing a new one may or may not arrive in 4 months time.

Even so, releasing a new product more than once a year on these consumer devices will harm the longevity of the device and eventually annoy customers.

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I think the iPad is too constrained for it to make sense to ramp down production and ramp up production of a new model when it has had less than a year on the market. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the iPad 3 appeared in June 2012 now the iPhone has moved to September.
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The rumors this year have been more absurd than ever.
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I find a 2nd new iPad unlikely for 2011 but if they do they will have the tablet market locked down for the foreseeable future.

I agree. Apple would really keep their knee on the neck of other tablet manufacturers if they released an iPad 3 just before the holidays. If anyone could do it, it would be Apple!
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I'm just curious how moving the LED flash two inches away is going to reduce redeye.
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An October launch for the next iPhone? Why does it keep getting pushed back? This had better be just another unfounded rumor, or I'll...do nothing other than whine.

Of course, if they release a new iPad in October, I'll probably be one of the few people who would cheer, since I don't have an iPad yet and have been holding off on getting one until notifications were changed and they will be with iOS 5. So if a new iPad came with the new iOS, I'd be thrilled.
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Even so, releasing a new product more than once a year on these consumer devices will harm the longevity of the device and eventually annoy customers.

Longevity is more determined by how long the device is supported than by the existence of new models. Apple is competing with the Android space and products are launched there every few weeks, so even a 6 month release cycle would be much slower than the industry average.
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I give the chances of the iPad3 shipping in 2011 at below 5%. The only way that can happen is if there would be a sudden and unexpected increase in the yields for 9.7" 2048x1536 LEDs.

An iPad 3 will not ship before the end of the year. The iPad 2.5 on the other hand...

Here is my theory, the original iPad 2 was suppose to have the high res display, which would explain why it has the CPU/GPU horsepower it currently has. Technical difficulties with the LCD panel prevented the iPad 2 from initially shipping with the display.

Apple's plan is to launch another model of the iPad 2 with the retina display (name to be determined) instead of equipping all models of the iPad 2 with the high res display because there will not be enough capacity on the new screen to include it across the board. This also provides Apple with the first opportunity to start offering a more varied line up of iPad models.

In short, the high res iPad 2 will ship this fall. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Don't worry. 95-98% of all Apple rumors end up being false.

This "iPad 3 in 2011" rumor is amongst them.

Agreed. Could also be an attempt by competitors to slow sales of the iPad2....

PS: Just saw that monstrosity had first dibs on that insight....
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Longevity is more determined by how long the device is supported than by the existence of new models. Apple is competing with the Android space and products are launched there every few weeks, so even a 6 month release cycle would be much slower than the industry average.

I'd say it's more likely how long the device functions as designed. Given the original iPad already splutters with iOS 4 (let alone iOS 5)... it makes me wonder how well the iPad 2 will stand up to new software.

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I'm just curious how moving the LED flash two inches away is going to reduce redeye.

Think of it in terms of ray tracing. The light from the flash is passing through the pupil, bouncing off the retina and then back out and into the camera, by offsetting the flash it's not going to strike directly into the lens - ie. the red-eye effect is only visible very close to the flash. The further away the flash, the less red eye.
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What is Apple keeps iPad 2 coming, drops the price point and then adds "iPad Pro" to the mix with the higher res, thinner, better, etc. That would thwart any sense that the competition has about "going after the enterprise" market. Of course the cost would be higher, but the components cost would come down eventually.
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One of the biggest things Apple could do would be to profitably bring the entry level price down to $399 for the holidays. It would literally blow the doors off the competition But important - they need to figure out if they could maintain a 30%+ margin. I'm not sure if that is possible or not

Nonsense. They're already 'blowing the doors off the competition' -- why should they?

And, it would not be possible to maintain the 30% margin.
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It would be unusual in the iPhone/iPad production space, but it would definitely give the competition even more of a slap-down. The danger is that they don't do it and Samsung puts out a 2560x1600 tablet and makes Apple's iPad screens look terrible in comparison. That's not where Apple wants to be.

Suddenly Samsung can legitimately run ads showing a view of a tablet that looks like an iPad through rose-tinted blurry glasses, and then the glasses get pulled off, things get sharp, and you're looking at a Samsung tablet with ultra-res or whatever dorky name they're giving it. Sure, another tablet that you can't remember the name of, but still... and not that I want to give Samsung any ad ideas...



I think it would be hilarious if Samsung made a 3rd (kind of 4th) release of thevsame failing product in one year. It would be especially funny if they thought resolution would change that.
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I think the iPad is too constrained for it to make sense to ramp down production and ramp up production of a new model when it has had less than a year on the market. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the iPad 3 appeared in June 2012 now the iPhone has moved to September.

They would continue making the iPad 2 at full speed, and the higher-res model would cost more and be scarce to begin with, don't you think?

DigiTimes gives no indication that 3 would replace 2, and they seem flatly certain this is happening, judging by the tone of the story. Curiouser and curiouser.
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I call bullshit on the iPad 3 release. Production in q1 and release early in q2 (Apple's fiscal)... most likely.

... and an announcement of the iPhone 5 in September to be released in October. More bullshit... unless it's announced on Friday September 30th and released on Saturday October 1st. There is no way Apple will have a long wait between announcement and release... this aint the iPhone 1.

Well, Steve did say iOS5 in the fall( Sept 21st-Dec20th). You know how Steve likes to have things neat and tidey.
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They would continue making the iPad 2 at full speed, and the higher-res model would cost more and be scarce to begin with, don't you think?

DigiTimes gives no indication that 3 would replace 2, and they seem flatly certain this is happening, judging by the tone of the story. Curiouser and curiouser.

I'd think it would need a new A chip with 1) a faster CPU , 2) more RAM, and 3) a faster GPU to offer a good enough experience on that display. They would also need to have a new SDK ready so that devs can immediately start taking advantage of the display.
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