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post #81 of 85
7/6/11 at 8:38pm
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No, that was my point - the numbers I'm interested in haven't been released. I'd settle for which OEM has the largest consumer share of smartphones, but even for that I'd need to know what percent of Samsung/Moto/LGs handsets were smartphones

We do know that Apple, RIM and Palm only make smartphones, so we know their share of consumers are the same as platform share.

ie.

Apple - 26.6%
RIM - 24.7%
Palm - 2.4%

So there's 46.3% left to be divided up between Samsung/LG/Moto/HTC - we'll assume Symbian is at 0%.

If we ignore HTC & SE and assume that the other 3 have a roughly equal proportion of smartphones it would be

Samsung - 18.82%
Moto -11.5%
LG - 16%

In which case Apple is now the number one maker of smartphones in the US market. But that's based on a lot of supposition, and if it's the case why hasn't it been shouted out at any point by Apple PR?

It gets even more pronounced if we try to look at current sales instead of share existing handsets. There we know that Apple is up at more like 31% (from the Nielsen numbers).

I don't understand where the 31% comes from.. If you take the nielsen's report claim of 1% market share increase (26%(Feb-Apr) to 27% (Mar-May)) for iPhone and compare it to 2% market share increase (36%-38% (same period)) for Android smartphones, I would say that Android sold more phones 'currently'.. Since the market share increase is compared over a similar time period, it is reasonable to say that the share increase reflects a similar trend in recent sales.

If you don't mind please show what process lead you to your estimate of 31%.
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post #82 of 85
7/7/11 at 3:30am
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If you don't mind please show what process lead you to your estimate of 31%.

The lower graphic shows current sales rates - the upper graphic is a survey of what handsets people are using - so includes phones that were bought years ago. Apple has 17% of the share of all handsets recently sold, smartphone sales are themselves 55% of the recent sales.

Therefore Apple has 17/.55 = 31% of recent smartphone sales, Android has 49%, RIM 11% and the remaining 9% is a mix of MS, WebOS, Symbian, Bada and other also-rans.
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post #83 of 85
7/7/11 at 3:40am
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Umm.. I don't get it.. Smartphone 55% of recent phone acquirer market (same as 3 months previous), Android is 27% of this (same as 3 months previous), iPhone(iOS) increases 7% to 17% in same 3 months. How is it that iPhones are now driving the market? Seems the 27% that Android represents still 'drives' the smartphone section of the market.

How about the fact that Android, with all it's tremendous growth rate has never jumped it's share of recent sales by 7% in a quarter, which Apple just did? That's effectively the first quarter in which Apple was actually competing with Android in the US, because it's the first quarter in which Apple was on more than one carrier.

Now Apple is on the two biggest, which represents around 2/3rds of the total market. If the next model launches on Sprint & T-Mo we may see it finally catch Android in recent unit sales in the US. Of course by revenues it's already way ahead
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post #84 of 85
7/11/11 at 7:23am
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How about the fact that Android, with all it's tremendous growth rate has never jumped it's share of recent sales by 7% in a quarter, which Apple just did? That's effectively the first quarter in which Apple was actually competing with Android in the US, because it's the first quarter in which Apple was on more than one carrier.

Now Apple is on the two biggest, which represents around 2/3rds of the total market. If the next model launches on Sprint & T-Mo we may see it finally catch Android in recent unit sales in the US. Of course by revenues it's already way ahead

Much of what you think Apple or Android market share is doing depends on where the data is coming from. For instance, in Great Britain, the top-selling smartphone is now the Samsung Galaxy S II according to 9to5Google today. (I didn't even know there was such a site until last week. A lot of 9to5's I guess.)

Android has grown its share of total US handset market to 9.2 percent in June of this year, up over just one percent a year ago. The platform had a 45.20 percent share of the entire smartphone market in the country, while iOS fell from 30.6 percent share in June 2010 to 18.3 percent share in June 2011. A big part of this was price: Apple’s is among the priciest consumer smartphones and only 45 percent contracts offer the device for free versus 90 percent for Android phones.

The fall of iOS came as a result of the overall UK market growing at a faster pace than iPhone sales, which have been overshadowed for the past two months as Samsung’s Galaxy S II smartphone emerged as the best-selling smartphone. In the US, Android and iOS had 57 percent and 28.7 percent market share last month, respectively. Android is clearly victorious in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Australia and Japan, where the platform enjoys a whopping 64.7 percent share of the smartphone market versus 27.7 percent for iOS.

http://9to5google.com/2011/07/11/sur...st-smartphone/

While I've always felt that market share is not a terribly important figure for now, with net profit being the biggie, this report gives a reason why we should probably pay attention to it. There's reportedly no evidence that either Android or Apple buyers jump ship in significant numbers once they've chosen a platform. With 50-60% of new smartphone buyers currently choosing Android for their new smartphone (depending on the what market they're in), they're likely lost as an Apple customer for at least the near future.

http://www.totaltele.com/view.aspx?ID=466170

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post #85 of 85
7/13/11 at 6:05pm
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How about the fact that Android, with all it's tremendous growth rate has never jumped it's share of recent sales by 7% in a quarter, which Apple just did? That's effectively the first quarter in which Apple was actually competing with Android in the US, because it's the first quarter in which Apple was on more than one carrier.

Now Apple is on the two biggest, which represents around 2/3rds of the total market. If the next model launches on Sprint & T-Mo we may see it finally catch Android in recent unit sales in the US. Of course by revenues it's already way ahead

That is pretty impressive, but I think my point was that the statement of iPhone 'driving' the smartphone market when it obviously had a lower share of sales for the quarter and past 6 months is way past spinning the data, it's outright false. That is unless the author had a very different definition of 'driving' a market than the common person.
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