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post #41 of 63
7/7/11 at 2:11am
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Huh? Where are you located? Here in Australia we have all the major publishers in the iBookstore. Sadly not all of the publishers books are there though, like I couldn't find 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' but other popular stuff like the Twilight novels are all in there.

Same as the iTunes movie store.

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I cannot buy iBooks in the Netherlands or most other European countries.

J.

Same for a lot of Asian countries.

It's quite a miracle that Australia went from virtually ignored by Apple at the turn of the millennium to being on the same tier as the UK in terms of product releases and iTunes Stores.

What the analyst does not mention is the paucity of iBooks in most countries.

I use a US iTunes account and even in the US the iBookstore is still pretty lightweight though admittedly growing.

I think Steve Jobs had big plans for iBookstore but McGraw Hill spilling the beans on the iPad right before it was officially announced probably reduced Steve's enthusiasm somewhat:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/3106...m-apple-tablet
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post #42 of 63
7/7/11 at 2:49am
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I cannot buy iBooks in the Netherlands or most other European countries.

J.

I couldn't agree more. iTunes has become a bit of a joke. First Movies (which took two years to become available), then TV shows (which are yet not available) and then iBooks (which are not available). Next up, in the list of "super cool features which you will be able to buy in two years" will be newsstand.

At first I thought the majors were the obstacle. But now I am starting to think "either is everyone an obstacle, or Apple needs to strengthen the European Offices with some people actually able to strike deals".

"War and Peace", "The Art of War".

That's pretty much about it.

And, since Amazon has these deals in place, it is hard to understand why doesn't Apple. Therefore I think some major changes in the european offices might be needed... It is a bad advertisement for Apple, just look at the evaluation the iBooks app has in Europe... All the concept, the effort, for nothing.
And Europe is not exactly a bad market for Apple... Just look at the prices of Apple's gear over here...
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post #43 of 63
7/7/11 at 3:03am
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What the hell are you talking about. iBooks has orientation lock on an iPhone.

Really? Where? Oh you mean locking the full phone - I was looking for it in the app, since kindle has it in a really obvious place.
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post #44 of 63
7/7/11 at 3:18am
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And I have experienced no "sticky pages" except when I have a jam sandwich while reading.

Try reading something long - say the HP Lovecraft Omnibus at 6000 pages. First iBooks will take 30+seconds or so to fully calculate pagination at your current font, during which time it is unresponsive. During that time page turning is very sluggish. Accidentally reorient? It will do it again.

Battery life also seems worse reading iBooks compared to Kindle on the iPhone.
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post #45 of 63
7/7/11 at 3:43am
Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?
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post #46 of 63
7/7/11 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?

6 I believe, though it actually depends on the specific content.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...98470&#howmany
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post #47 of 63
7/7/11 at 5:40am
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Once Apple adds an iBooks app for mac I'll actually take it seriously and buy books from the iBooks store

Exactly. Apple are asleep at the wheel when it comes to using information outside their little silos.

Many of the most important software concepts were invented in the 70s and forgotten in the 80s.

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post #48 of 63
7/7/11 at 5:41am
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I couldn't agree more. iTunes has become a bit of a joke. First Movies (which took two years to become available), then TV shows (which are yet not available) and then iBooks (which are not available). Next up, in the list of "super cool features which you will be able to buy in two years" will be newsstand.

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"War and Peace", "The Art of War".

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Can you tell it's an American company ?

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post #49 of 63
7/7/11 at 5:54am
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I cannot buy iBooks in the Netherlands or most other European countries.

J.

Sadly apple may have to cut individual agreements with each country .So it may take time . Or maybe apple can cut a single deal with the almighty E U.

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post #50 of 63
7/7/11 at 6:00am
i have an ibook store app for my MBP
EXCEPT I CAN SEEM TO READ THEM ON MY MBP 15 "

Weird Huh ??
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post #51 of 63
7/7/11 at 6:03am
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Did you read that somewhere?

Your wit is very good .
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post #52 of 63
7/7/11 at 6:41am
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Actually research shows that to understand sarcasm you have to be very intelligent so that really makes your comment false... but then I guess you'd know that if you were smart.

Actually you just have to understand that person's sense of humor....otherwise you are just guessing and the person may not be sarcastic at all.
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post #53 of 63
7/7/11 at 7:30am
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Sadly apple may have to cut individual agreements with each country .So it may take time . Or maybe apple can cut a single deal with the almighty E U.

bruce

Nope, because there isn't an EU wide book industry - for the obvious reason that most countries have their own language. Sometimes a publisher will have worldwide rights for a book, but generally not.

Consider a recent fantasy novel 'The name of the wind' by Patrick Rothfuss.

US rights - DAW
UK rights - Gollancz
French rights - Bragelonne
German rights - Klett-Cotta
Italian rights - Fanucci

Amazon frequently sells books outside their intended markets which publishers don't like, but Amazon is the primary distribution method for books so publishers don't have much choice but to live with it. Apple is still having to win publishers love with chocolate and kisses.
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post #54 of 63
7/7/11 at 2:58pm
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Huh? Where are you located? Here in Australia we have all the major publishers in the iBookstore. Sadly not all of the publishers books are there though, like I couldn't find 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' but other popular stuff like the Twilight novels are all in there.

Same as the iTunes movie store.

Oh that's good to hear. Perhaps English speaking nations come first, Apple being American after all it's probably easier to make things happen if you share the same language. Then maybe French and German, two big zones. And then maybe the rest of the world... Like Norway and Sweden where I'm located.
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post #55 of 63
7/7/11 at 3:12pm
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6 I believe, though it actually depends on the specific content.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...98470&#howmany

True.. And for all of you who haven't experienced e-paper like the kindle first hand. It almost feels like regular paper. Readability in bright surroundings is near to perfect. If you plan to read a lot in daylight, e-paper beats LCD every time.
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post #56 of 63
7/7/11 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?

I find buying books on the iPad to be better, because I can also sync between all my devices, AND I can buy from EVERY seller, not just one.
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post #57 of 63
7/7/11 at 10:33pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

I find buying books on the iPad to be better, because I can also sync between all my devices, AND I can buy from EVERY seller, not just one.

You can buy EVERY seller you want with the Kindle if they don't have DRM, exactly like iBooks books, if the epub has standard DRM like Adobe DRM you can't read on iBooks
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post #58 of 63
7/8/11 at 4:51am
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True.. And for all of you who haven't experienced e-paper like the kindle first hand. It almost feels like regular paper. Readability in bright surroundings is near to perfect. If you plan to read a lot in daylight, e-paper beats LCD every time.

True, but it's worse for any other use, too slow, requires an external light etc. I can see myself using a kindle on a tropical beach, but pretty much anywhere else I'll take the iPad thanks.
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post #59 of 63
7/8/11 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post

Nope, because there isn't an EU wide book industry - for the obvious reason that most countries have their own language. Sometimes a publisher will have worldwide rights for a book, but generally not.

Consider a recent fantasy novel 'The name of the wind' by Patrick Rothfuss.

US rights - DAW
UK rights - Gollancz
French rights - Bragelonne
German rights - Klett-Cotta
Italian rights - Fanucci

Amazon frequently sells books outside their intended markets which publishers don't like, but Amazon is the primary distribution method for books so publishers don't have much choice but to live with it. Apple is still having to win publishers love with chocolate and kisses.


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post #60 of 63
7/10/11 at 1:15pm
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You can buy EVERY seller you want with the Kindle if they don't have DRM, exactly like iBooks books, if the epub has standard DRM like Adobe DRM you can't read on iBooks

And that means that you can't buy the books you likely want from any other seller.
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post #61 of 63
7/11/11 at 12:36am
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And that means that you can't buy the books you likely want from any other seller.

Exactly the same with iBooks. Can you buy books for iBooks from Sony Store?

You can buy books from other sellers if the books don't have DRM.
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post #62 of 63
7/11/11 at 3:04pm
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Exactly the same with iBooks. Can you buy books for iBooks from Sony Store?

You can buy books from other sellers if the books don't have DRM.

I was pretty obviously NOT talking about iBooks in particular. I was talking about the iPad, iPhone, and iTouch being able to run all the apps from ALL the other stores, which none of the others will do. That's a very big advantage, which only tablets will have that aren't locked into being a reader from one seller.
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post #63 of 63
7/15/11 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

I was pretty obviously NOT talking about iBooks in particular. I was talking about the iPad, iPhone, and iTouch being able to run all the apps from ALL the other stores, which none of the others will do. That's a very big advantage, which only tablets will have that aren't locked into being a reader from one seller.

I tought that is pretty obvious that you can't compare a multipurpose device like the iPad or other tablets with a single purpose device like Kindle so I though you were implicitly talking about iBooks. My bad, sorry.
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