Microsoft CEO pans Apple's Mac sales, admits 'very small' Windows Phone sales - Page 5

Originally Posted by Alfiejr

my point is the UI is wrong for that. the general reaction in the USA is that WP 7 is "cool." well that's nice. but "cool" does not translate across cultures well. Nokia went to great lengths working with local telcos around the world to localize its products, inlcuding their top level of Symbian UI. that is one big reason why it had so many different models and strong global sales. i can't see WP 7 being as easy to localize, even if Nokia can keep its experienced global marketing team in place. and will MS give it the flexibility it would need to cut deals that give those local telcos' in house servies priority over MS services (assuming they can be reformatted into tiles)? i don't think so.

so yeah, that leaves the EU. Nokia's last stand.

Originally Posted by jragosta

Microsoft? Cutting Edge? Good one.

Oh, wait. You were serious? You're out of your mind. Microsoft hasn't done anything cutting edge for years. Their dominance in servers (if that is even true these days) doesn't change that.



That is, of course, totally false.

First, look at the iMac. Many of the components are not available on any other PC. The power supply, motherboard, case, display, keyboard, mouse, and OS all come to mind.

Second, there is the matter of specs. Even though the RAM (for example) looks like garden variety RAM, Apple consistently sets their specs well above industry averages. There are plenty of examples where generic third party RAM don't work as the motherboard requires good quality RAM which meets Apple's specs.

Finally, there's the matter of your silly attempt to lump all PCs together. Do you understand the difference between a $399 Walmart PC and your $3,000 hand-built system? Apple doesn't sell anything comparable to the low-end crapware systems out there. I don't think anyone ever said that Mac build quality was significantly different than the BEST PCs out there. But few people are buying those - most people are buying the junk ware systems.



Probably several possible reasons:
1. You're not smart enough to use Macs.
2. You make your living on tech support which means that your income depends on Windows' failures and you feel some loyalty.
3. You're just simply a geek and love to spend time troubleshooting.
4. You're able to keep your Windows system running smoothly -- which is difficult and unusual enough that you like being able to brag about it.
5. Like many rabid Apple haters, you never even considered anything different.

So which is it?



Actually, it's the fact that Microsoft has not grown significantly which demonstrates that Microsoft has not grown. Compare Microsoft's growth rate in sales, profitability, and market cap to Apple's over the last 5 or 10 years. It is the FACTS which show that Microsoft's growth rate is far below Apple's.



That's nice. Care to explain why anyone would care?

Furthermore, it doesn't change the fact that the information you posted above was all wrong.

Oh, and btw, if you really are using a MBA, you just destroyed your own argument. AFAIK, the only part of the MBA which is the same as generic PCs is the CPU. So much for your "Macs are 99% the same as PCs" argument.

Originally Posted by A_K

Ballmer looks older and thinner on the picture.

Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer

Nokia is drowning and Microsoft's life boat has a hole in it.

Originally Posted by cloudgazer

http://gs.statcounter.com/

Originally Posted by PhilBoogie

Thanks for that link; quite handy as you can select various statistics (Browser, Browser Version, Mobile Browser, Operating System, Mobile OS, Search Engine, Mobile Search, Mobile vs. Desktop, Screen Resolution, Social Media, Digg vs Reddit) and region and time period. Strangely, the #1 mobile browser is Opera with 22% (iPhone 17%, iPod 6%). On which devices is Opera the default?

Thanks,
PhilBoogie

Originally Posted by nikon133

Xbox 360 is so much stronger in US than in rest of the world. It is American product, after all.

Motorola is so much stronger in US than in rest of the world. It is American product, after all.

Apple is so much stronger in US than in rest of the world. It is American product, after all.

American car brands are so much stronger in US than in rest of the world. They are American products, after all.

Now... Nokia was never American brand and never achieved success it had in Europe, Asia... pretty much anywhere else. But now, Nokias are going to be WP7 products as well; American products. Noone can say, but I wouldn't be surprised if Americanised Nokia doesn't end up being much more successful in US than it was before. It will be interesting to watch.

Originally Posted by nikon133

Actually Microsoft's customer satisfaction was higher than Apple's after Windows 7 was released; don't know how do they compare right now, but it wasn't long ago. But don't confuse MS customer satisfaction to Dell, HP, Asus... and other hardware vendors' customer satisfaction.

Originally Posted by fishstick_kitty

I'd like to see consumer and business sales broken out...I think apple is huge w/ consumers...not so huge w/ business. Businesses are locked into MS.

Originally Posted by sflocal

Hum, excuse me Ballmer, but who's making all the profits???