Originally Posted by tonton
Seriously, jazz, don't you think the priest's response was pure idiocy?
Of course that's not negating the fact that asking him to undergo therapy and also making the automatic gay->AIDS link are nearly as idiotic.
Neither is all that idiotic. Sexual orientation is not an exact science to say the least. In terms of cause, there is evidence
pointing to both biological and environmental factors.
A recent study of all adult twins in Sweden (more than 7,600 twins) found that same-sex behavior was explained by both heritable factors and individual-specific environmental sources (such as prenatal environment, experience with illness and trauma, as well as peer groups, and sexual experiences), while influences of shared-environment variables such as familial environment and societal attitudes had a weaker, but significant effect.
This is one reason why I, for one, don't exactly equate gay rights with civil rights (or race rights, one could say). There is absolutely zero environmental influence on one's race. It cannot be chosen any more than hair color, eye color or height. But there can
be an element of choice in sexual orientation. My personal perspective is that the vast majority of gays do not "choose" their orientation...but some
do. Certain religious people (for lack of a better term) take this perspective to another level, claiming that gays can be "cured." Inherent in their arguments is that being gay is all
(or mostly) about choice. I reject their position, but I can understand how they get there.
As for the gay-AIDS link: Really? HIV occurrence in the gay community is far higher than in heterosexuals. Also from wiki:
While in the United States, "men who have had sex with men since 1977 have an HIV prevalence (the total number of cases of a disease that are present in a population at a specific point in time) 60 times higher than the general population".
In 2007, the largest estimated proportion of HIV/AIDS diagnoses among adults and adolescents in the U.S. were men who have sex with men (MSM). This category accounted for 53% of the overall diagnoses and 71% among men.
And as for the accusations themselves, they are made within the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church considers homosexuality a sin. I understand that many disagree with this (as do I), but that is their belief. He's not required to be a priest. That is, he knew full well what the Church Doctrine was when he became a priest. He cannot even marry a woman.
There is even debate about whether priests can masturbate.
Now, I undersand that you, BR and various others find these views completely fucking insane. That's another matter.