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Apple announced during its quarterly earnings call that Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, its next-generation operating system, will launch on the Mac App Store on Wednesday.

The announcement from Apple Chief Operating Officer Peter Oppenheimer confirms an exclusive report from AppleInsider on Monday. Also rumored to launch is a refresh to the thin-and-light MacBook Air notebook, powered by Lion.

Update: Accordingly, Apple on Tuesday released Migration Assistant Update, allowing users to prepare their Mac for the update to Lion through the Mac App Store. It is a 312kb download available via Software Update or direct from Apple.

"This update addresses an issue with the Migration Assistant application in Mac OS X Snow Leopard that prevents transfer of your personal data, settings, and compatible applications from a Mac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard to a new Mac running Mac OS X Lion," the official description reads.

Apple has been holding off on the introduction of new Mac hardware until it finally releases Lion. Apple had not previously not offered a specific launch date for the operating system, only promising that it will become available on the Mac App Store for $29.99 at some point in July.



Signs of an impending launch continued appear as the week went on, with Lion said to have arrived at Apple retail stores on hard disks this week for installation on demo machines, and photos of promotional materials at third-party stores.
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It will be Wednesday in London in about 3 hours...
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It will be Wednesday in London in about 3 hours...

lol, nice try, but "Wednesday" probably means 10:00 AM PST, since the world knows that time runs on Apple's watch!
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OK, here's what I'm going to do.

Convince myself that I'm going to wait a few weeks until the .1 update comes out to work out the bugs a few weeks after launch, then about eight hours after I've convinced myself of that, I'll buy it and have no problems like always.

It'll be interesting to see how Apple handle the demand for downloads tomorrow.
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It will be Wednesday in London in about 3 hours...

Less than two actually - British Summer Time is in effect..

But unfortunately I'm very afraid they're going to make it something like 8:30 AM ET globally. Which is annoying, as I'll be at wok from 11AM till 6PM BST, which that falls into.

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Apple had not previously not offered a specific launch date for the operating system,

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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?
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Yes, my minions. Report all the bugs so 10.7.1 will be ready for me
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

Given it's only $30, I'll pick auto-save of documents.

There's a lot of nice stuff to have, especially considering it's only thirty freaking dollars!
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?


Ummm, the upgrade price, alone.
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Will the "resume" feature work after shutting down the Mac and turning it back on, or does it only apply to restarts?

If scrollbars are hidden and you scroll to make them appear, can you then drag the scrollbar? Shouldn't you also be able to drag scrollbars on iPhones and iPads? That would make it easier to scroll through long documents or web pages on iOS devices.
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Stop with all of the tooting your own "as reported exclusively by Apple Insider on..."

1. It wasn't exclusive. It was one like a dozen different sites.
2. No one cares. We're already here reading your site, no need to toot your own horn to us.
3. It makes the writing less appealing, and more juvenile sounding. By a lot.

Seriously, please stop!
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"The announcement from Apple Chief Operating Officer Peter Oppenheimer confirms an exclusive report from AppleInsider on Monday. Also rumored to launch is a refresh to the thin-and-light MacBook Air notebook, powered by Lion."

Isn't Peter Oppenheimer Apple's CFO? I thought Tim Cook was the COO...
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

The overall speed increase
New gestures
Updated mail, contacts, calendar apps
Resume
Versions

But mostly the speed.
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Originally Posted by neiltc13 View Post

Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?


I believe FaceTime is now included, which saves you $1. It may not seem like much, but it would only take 30 features to make up the cost and Apple said there's 250!

I'd throw in Auto Save and Versions and AirDrop. The addition of Yahoo! messenger is nice. I think some of the changes to Mail will actually make it more productive - at least worth a dollar or two.
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

First of all it's only $30 (and that's for the entire family of Macs you may have)! (How many major operating system upgrades/updates are priced that affordably?) Secondly it's packed with a ton of great upgrades (mail, calendar, address book, etc.) and goodies. But, to me, this is worth the $30 alone...

"Apps developed with Auto Save can automatically save changes to your document as you work, freeing you from manual saving and from the worry that youll lose your valuable work if the app quits. And because Auto Save saves all changes in the background, you can work without the distraction of pauses or progress bars."

At first, I wasn't overly excited with the update, but the more I looked at the demos and read the descriptions, the more I'm looking forward to it.
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Stop with all of the tooting your own "as reported exclusively by Apple Insider on..."

1. It wasn't exclusive. It was one like a dozen different sites.
2. No one cares. We're already here reading your site, no need to toot your own horn to us.
3. It makes the writing less appealing, and more juvenile sounding. By a lot.

Seriously, please stop!


Yes it was exclusive. No other site had it except for those that reported Appleinsiders now proven claim.
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

A better Safari 5? Lion's version uses WebKit 2 and also has a bunch of snazzy new user interface improvements like elastic scrolling and peek-able forward/back gestures.

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Just checked for updates, guess what, Migration Assistant Update for Snow Leopard!
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Less than two actually - British Summer Time is in effect..

But unfortunately I'm very afraid they're going to make it something like 8:30 AM ET globally. Which is annoying, as I'll be at wok from 11AM till 6PM BST, which that falls into.

I'm actually fine with that; It'll give people time to discover how to properly download it to one Mac, then run the installer on their other Macs without having to redownload it.
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Will the "resume" feature work after shutting down the Mac and turning it back on, or does it only apply to restarts?

If scrollbars are hidden and you scroll to make them appear, can you then drag the scrollbar? Shouldn't you also be able to drag scrollbars on iPhones and iPads? That would make it easier to scroll through long documents or web pages on iOS devices.

It applies to both. "Resume" basically keeps everything right where you left it.
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Apple announced during its quarterly earnings call that Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, its next-generation operating system, will launch on the Mac App Store on Wednesday.

The announcement from Apple Chief Operating Officer Peter Oppenheimer confirms an exclusive report from AppleInsider on Monday. Also rumored to launch is a refresh to the thin-and-light MacBook Air notebook, powered by Lion.

Apple has been holding off on the introduction of new Mac hardware until it finally releases Lion. Apple had not previously not offered a specific launch date for the operating system, only promising that it will become available on the Mac App Store for $29.99 at some point in July.

Signs of an impending launch continued appear as the week went on, with Lion said to have arrived at Apple retail stores on hard disks this week for installation on demo machines, and photos of promotional materials at third-party stores.

Can't wait!
Even though I don't have a Mac yet(which I will be getting one when it comes out), Mac OS X 10.7 Lion looks like my favorite operating system, compared to Windows 7 Ultimate.
There are features in Lion that I would love. Those are; the improved multi-touch gestures, "Resume", "Auto Save and Versions" and some cool features that come with a Mac.
So its going to be cool transferring to a Mac with a new OS to learn.
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

Mostly excited for the server tools (extra $49), including publishing webDAV folders to connect iOS devices to.
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Given it's only $30, I'll pick auto-save of documents.

There's a lot of nice stuff to have, especially considering it's only thirty freaking dollars!

That and resume are the two worst features and there is apparently no way to turn them off, very aggravating and annoying for people who like to save their own documents as needed and don"t want every application to launch when turning on the machine, just awful ideas in my opinion.

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That and resume are the two worst features and there is apparently no way to turn them off, very aggravating and annoying for people who like to save their own documents as needed and don"t want every application to launch when turning on the machine, just awful ideas in my opinion.

Using the car analogy, those features would be like rain sensing wipers. Um, I think I can sense the rain and turn on the wipers myself.
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The overall speed increase
New gestures
Updated mail, contacts, calendar apps
Resume
Versions

But mostly the speed.

64-bit. iCloud. And the combination of Versions and iCloud and Autosave mean, from a practical standpoint, a new file system.
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Using the car analogy, those features would be like rain sensing wipers. Um, I think I can sense the rain and turn on the wipers myself.

Not worth it to you, never to have to press Cmd-S again? It is to me.
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Stop with all of the tooting your own "as reported exclusively by Apple Insider on..."

1. It wasn't exclusive. It was one like a dozen different sites.
2. No one cares. We're already here reading your site, no need to toot your own horn to us.
3. It makes the writing less appealing, and more juvenile sounding. By a lot.

Seriously, please stop!

I have to agree with this. It's downright silly.
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Not worth it to you, never to have to press Cmd-S again? It is to me.

Might be worth is if there was an option to turn it off,
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lol, nice try, but "Wednesday" probably means 10:00 AM PST, since the world knows that time runs on Apple's watch!

Heh-heh.

You mean that Apple will claim that the Prime Meridian runs through Cupertino, making the new standard "Apple Mean Time?"
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Not worth it to you, never to have to press Cmd-S again? It is to me.

Ok but let me decide if I want a finished document to be re-saved in case I want to test a small design change without over writing it or saving it as a new document.

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If scrollbars are hidden and you scroll to make them appear, can you then drag the scrollbar? Shouldn't you also be able to drag scrollbars on iPhones and iPads? That would make it easier to scroll through long documents or web pages on iOS devices.

I have a hard time trying to use the new scroll bars with the mouse pointer. However, since buying an Apple trackpad, I am (slowly) getting used to gestures to scroll up and down, so for me that isn't a problem. Mice with scroll wheels will work as well.
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Ok but let me decide if I want a finished document to be re-saved in case I want to test a small design change without over writing it or saving it as a new document.

...That's what Versions is for, duder.

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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

Part of what you're going to get won't really be obvious until you've gotten used to it, and then you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. I realize that sounds ridiculous or overblown, but here's an example of the sort of thing I'm talking about: I've never been a laptop user, which means I have next to no experience with a trackpad. Lion has a lot of touch gestures built in, and my mouse is dying... so... I decided to try a Magic Trackpad.

I hated it. But I stuck with it for a week just in case I was only frustrated by something 'different'. At the end of the week, I switched back to my mouse so I could pack up the Magic Trackpad to return it, but instantly I missed all of the finger swipes I'd become used to. Grabbing a big thing to move a cursor suddenly seemed unintuitive. The Magic Trackpad could do more than my eight button mouse with a tilting scroll wheel. WOW! I love the thing!

I guarantee Lion will be a lot like that. We're getting better ways of getting to various things, not to mention better ways of using parts of the OS. I haven't been this excited about getting a new version of the Mac OS since the switch from OS9 to OSX (though I waited until Jaguar was released). Granted, the change is nowhere near that drastic, but it's the biggest change since then. And I'm looking forward to it!
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Might be worth is if there was an option to turn it off,

Hit CMD-S, save your documents manually (and it will do it automatically, but that doesn't matter up you), never open the Versions browser and use the "duplicate" menu option instead of "Save As".

Crisis averted, you can still do what you want without ever taking advantage of Versions.
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I have a hard time trying to use the new scroll bars with the mouse pointer. However, since buying an Apple trackpad, I am (slowly) getting used to gestures to scroll up and down, so for me that isn't a problem. Mice with scroll wheels will work as well.

Lion is smart. When you plug in a mouse, it displays scroll bars permanently. When you disconnect your mouse, scroll bars revert to their default behavior.
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Had a look at the Lion features list and I'm struggling to find one that is making me want to upgrade.

What features do you guys think are worth paying to get?

The app updates:
  1. Address Book
  2. ICal
  3. Finder
  4. Mail
  5. Safari. <--- This is huge!!!
  6. TextEdit
System improvements
  1. AppleScript
  2. Automator
  3. MultiTouch Gestures
  4. UNIX
  5. Versions
  6. Security
  7. System *

I put an * on System because the OS has gone through some major over hauls improving performance and adding significant features. For example text handling has been completely overhauled. This is not all however, many parts of the OS have been updated. To put it plainly Lion is a bigger update than many realize.

Also don't forget the purpose of an OS is to support apps. The arrival of Lion should mean an avalanch of new apps.

Beyond all of that the number one most important feature is the year less birthdays. As anybody that has to deal with woman can instantly understand.
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I have a hard time trying to use the new scroll bars with the mouse pointer. However, since buying an Apple trackpad, I am (slowly) getting used to gestures to scroll up and down, so for me that isn't a problem. Mice with scroll wheels will work as well.

Bingo. Now that I'm using a Magic Trackpad, it seems silly to make the page move up by sliding two fingers down. If you were putting your fingers on the screen, you'd slide two fingers down to move the page down. But in the old days, we weren't moving the page. We were moving a scroll bar that denoted how far up the page we were. Once we shift our thinking from "moving a scroll bar" to "moving the page" it just makes sense. And it's more intuitive than the old way ever was.
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"The announcement from Apple Chief Operating Officer Peter Oppenheimer confirms an exclusive report from AppleInsider on Monday. Also rumored to launch is a refresh to the thin-and-light MacBook Air notebook, powered by Lion."

Isn't Peter Oppenheimer Apple's CFO? I thought Tim Cook was the COO...

Not at the moment. At the moment Cook is the CEO which means that Oppenheimer could be the COO. Acting in both cases but I won't be shocked if the 'acting' drops off of either or both and Jobs never officially comes back from his medical leave.

And in another year when folks are asking about succession plans Apple will be like "what are you talking about, Jobs is gone. Cook is the CEO. Has been for ages. Oh and by the way we made the shareholders filthy rich again this quarter."

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