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OK, just pointed my remote to my computer and pressed 'Menu' - nothing happened. I know there are people who never used FrontRow. I did and I think was of some use.
post #82 of 184
In the end it downloaded fast once it got going..

Anyone got a link to a site that explains how to burn a dvd image of the app store version release? Thanks.
post #83 of 184
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Originally Posted by MacApfel View Post

OK, just pointed my remote to my computer and pressed 'Menu' - nothing happened. I know there are people who never used FrontRow. I did and I think was of some use.

I don't have Lion yet, but yeah, the reports say Front Row is gone. I'm with you, I thought it was kind of nice. Maybe someone will come along and make a nice app as a replacement...?
post #84 of 184
I downloaded it this mourning on my MPB 15 and it trashed the hardrive on install. I had to do a clean install and re-format..... Thank god I put all of my files on a NAS drive for safe keeping....

I'll have to re-load VMWare and MS Office, but it won't be that painful....

I have two Mac Minis and one 13" MBP to go.... ( A little more worried )

This was the first Apple update to ever give me trouble......
post #85 of 184
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Originally Posted by technet View Post

In the end it downloaded fast once it got going..

Anyone got a link to a site that explains how to burn a dvd image of the app store version release? Thanks.

Sorry - I can answer my own question now for anyone else curious..

Look here - http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=1#post1904625
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Maybe someone will come along and make a nice app as a replacement...?

http://www.plexapp.com/

http://xbmc.org/download/
post #87 of 184
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Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post

The new scroll bars are ... interesting. ...

This is also my least favourite feature. I just find them kind of ugly and don't really see the point of making them invisible.
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Sorry - I can answer my own question now for anyone else curious..

Look here - http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=1#post1904625

You linked back to your own comment.
post #89 of 184
[QUOTE=AppleInsider;1904126]Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, Apple's highly anticipated next-generation operating system, is now available to purchase on the Mac App Store for $29.99, weighing in at 3.49GB]
Apple Store download took about 1 1/2 hours plus 1 hr install on 2 yr old MacBook Pro. Only slight hiccups on download (two minor retrys) - basically a pleasant experience if you have a bit of patience.
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Are you sure it qualifies. I bought a Mac Mini Server on 7th June and found it's not in the list of qualifying Macs

Eligible... It's a new 2011 27" iMac
post #91 of 184
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Originally Posted by technet View Post

In the end it downloaded fast once it got going..

Anyone got a link to a site that explains how to burn a dvd image of the app store version release? Thanks.

I asked pretty much the same question a couple of days ago and was referred here: http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/08/make-...b-flash-drive/

It's instructions for making a USB drive, but you can do the same for DVD or SD card, I understand.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

This is also my least favourite feature. I just find them kind of ugly and don't really see the point of making them invisible.

So go into system preferences and change how they work...
post #93 of 184
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

So go into system preferences and change how they work...

Not using Lion yet.
post #94 of 184
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Originally Posted by jonbutler View Post

Aha, now I see a download progress bar in the App Store icon at the bottom of my screen. If it's accurate, this is a pretty slow download.

Yeah, at one hour in my download I have 1.92 Gb downloaded out of 3.74 Gb total. Pretty slow for my connection.
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post #95 of 184
I have installed it on my mbp... I could not even imagine it would go so wrong.
1. Boot time changed from unmeasurable (3 dots on "boot wheel") to 24 seconds counted from when EFI ends until background shows up. Cleaned up everything, rebooted few times, no change to that.
2. can't move applications how I want. like chess to games folder, unused small software to utilities folder. OS just refuse to move or delete.
3. some of my applications are now not usable saying can't open powerpc applications. well, they are not
4. forced no scrollbars, looks nice indeed, but apps like vnc are unusable without fullscreen

And then test server update:
1. after update, stuck in white screen. after hard reboot, showed "click to setup your server". without any ability to connect remotely... this is not acceptable for server version.
2. server kicked out of OD even trough it was a replica
3. new "server" app is so simplified that its absolutely useless
4. many services has beed completly removed
5. profile manager (account manager) has been remade as web app so in case of problem with web server you can't do anything
6. and yeah, few weird things like disappeared stack for applications and vanished startup services

Still searching for Open directory, update and mysql services but I'm assuming the worse
Good thing I have test server available, still rollback will be pain.

So if you have OSX server, think twice before updating it.

PS: I was charged twice for lion update on same account.
post #96 of 184
for anyone using older iMac. i have 2007 iMac 2.33 with 4 gigs ram that only uses 3 gigs. i do have a 10k drive upgrade but lion works perfectly smooth and at least as fast as sl. i am still indexing and getting used to it but so far i am totally pleased with speed and function. so if you have older machine hopefully you will have same good experience
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But is it snappier?

Seriously. My old iMac barely meets the minimum specs and SL really seemed to slow it down. With all the (useless IMO) eye candy in Lion I'm thinking it would bog it down even further.

Would be interested on seeing some actual before and after benchmarks on older systems.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4485/b...lion-review/23
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post #98 of 184
I have a iMac running 10.6 and a Macbook running 10.5..If I buy the download on the iMac can I install Lion on the laptop as well? Or am I stuck buying the thumb drive version?
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If anyone's had Logic 9 Pro running (especially interested on an iMac 27" Core2duo 3.06ghz) I'd love to know if it runs properly as this is the biggest hold back for me.
post #100 of 184
I've been downloading for 5 hours and the progress bar is only half-way.
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Originally Posted by irnchriz View Post

That only removes APP store applications. You can no longer remove any other icons.

In Dock Click On An App Then Options Then Remove From Dock.

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post #102 of 184
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I have a iMac running 10.6 and a Macbook running 10.5..If I buy the download on the iMac can I install Lion on the laptop as well? Or am I stuck buying the thumb drive version?

Why is your MacBook still running Leopard after 2 years with Snow Leopard for $25?

But yes you can make an install DVD or Flash Drive from the iMac download then use that to install Lion on all your other Macs that meet the minimum hardware requirements. Just Google Lion Install DVD to find step by step instructions how including on the Macworld website. You'll probably have to kill your Macbook's drive though because you don't have Snow Leopard installed on it. So a backup and then clean install plus migration would be required. But don't expect to get stuff from the Leopard backup. Lion only talks to Snow Leopard backups for migration. So you'll have to do the migration manually. Lot of extra work.

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post #103 of 184
Is there a relationship between Launch Pad and the same apps in the Dock.

Also, where do we access the Hard Drive (in OS X it was a convenient place to check version numbers of apps and utilities and also to store/delete third party apps)? Can it be added to the Dock in Lion?

The HD, a Finder Pref that shows it on the upper right of the desktop, does not appear in any of the Lion publicity shots.
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As a power user do you even use LaunchPad? I know I don't. I removed it from my Dock and haven't even organized it since the first Preview.

When I first installed DP1, I got rid of my Applications Stack and forced myself to try it out. I do use it, and I think it's okay, but I do have one huge complaint:

AUTOMATICALLY. CLOSE. THE. FREAKING. FOLDER. AFTER. I. CLICK. AN. APPLICATION. INSIDE. IT.

Adding clicks to my workflow is something I want to avoid. I know this is the way iOS does it, but after dealing with this in Launchpad, I question why it even happens in iOS at all. It shouldn't. Close the folder automatically.

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2. can't move applications how I want. like chess to games folder, unused small software to utilities folder. OS just refuse to move or delete.

Are you really in the Applications folder that much for this to matter at all?

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3. some of my applications are now not usable saying can't open powerpc applications. well, they are not

Well, yes, they are. Get Info on them to see that.

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So if you have OSX server, think twice before updating it.

Oh, I understand that part, at least.

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PS: I was charged twice for lion update on same account.

So... talk to Apple about it...

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Is there a relationship between Launch Pad and the same apps in the Dock.

None. It's just another way to access the rest of your applications.

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Also, where do we access the Hard Drive

Uh... WHAT? It's on your Desktop. If you don't see it, you did something. Change your Finder preferences.

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(in OS X

Lion is OS X.

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post #105 of 184
dubdubdub.24100.net/2011/07/mac-os-x-lion-gm-seed-release
Turns out that if your Mac is connected to the Internet during setup, the installer will actually download an update and upgrade your build to 11A511.
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post #106 of 184
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dubdubdub.24100.net/2011/07/mac-os-x-lion-gm-seed-release
Turns out that if your Mac is connected to the Internet during setup, the installer will actually download an update and upgrade your build to 11A511.

What's with the useless, fake link?

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post #107 of 184
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What's with the useless, fake link?

replace 'dub' with a 'w'.
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post #108 of 184
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I am flabbergasted! This new OS X exceeds what I expected now that I have it in my hot little hands. Very impressed with how the full screen apps make use of limited real estate on my 15'' MBP. The animations are smooth between apps. The gesture for scrolling in Safari seems reversed from what I'm used to but actually more intuitive and easy to get used to. So much more, but these were a few things that struck me right off the bat.

I understand there's a system preference to change the scrolling back to the traditional way.
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Nope. They switch colors for those backgrounds.

They do, but it's not perfect. Take Safari, go to Ars Technica, set your window size such that you can't see the black edge on their page, or zoom in. Scroll.

Safari is colouring the scroll bar based on the page background colour, which may or may not be the actual background over which the scroll bar is overlaid. In this case the background is black, but the actual page area is white - the scrollbar is being rendered in white.
post #110 of 184
I downloaded the install in about 2 hours (at work) this morning and in my haste to try out Lion, I didn't make a copy of the installer to use on my 2 other macs before I installed it on my MBP. I did not know the installer was deleted after install. So for those of you out there with multiple macs...make a copy of the installer before installing.

So..does anyone know if there is a way to create a Lion boot disk from the newly created Recovery Partition? I really don't want to have to download this again from home as my connection speed is about 1/3 as slow as my work connection.
post #111 of 184
Downloaded Lion this AM. No problems with the accessing or downloading the software. However, I'm not impressed features of full screen, Mail App, Safari, Reading List, is no big deal. The reason they only charged $30 is because you get what you pay for and that "ain't" much and you don't get much.

I may go back to Snow Leopard!http://forums.appleinsider.com/images/smilies/irked.gif
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Are you really in the Applications folder that much for this to matter at all?

Yeah, I hate mess.
And of course I use it. Its just faster then spotlight and its not good to have many icons in dock for low vnc resolutions.

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Well, yes, they are. Get Info on them to see that.

Could be, trough I'm reinstalling it back so cant check now.

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So... talk to Apple about it...

Thats not so easy everywhere in the world.
post #113 of 184
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Downloaded Lion this AM. No problems with the accessing or downloading the software. However, I'm not impressed — features of full screen, Mail App, Safari, Reading List, is no big deal. The reason they only charged $30 is because you get what you pay for and that "ain't" much and you don't get much.

I may go back to Snow Leopard!http://forums.appleinsider.com/images/smilies/irked.gif

While I understand what you mean and agree a little, it's under the hood stuff you can't see that makes Lion roar. In particular, the new 64-bit iTunes 1.4 is radically faster than 1.3.1 in Lion. And a lot more to come - esp iCloud which fully blown will only work from Lion.

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post #114 of 184
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I understand there's a system preference to change the scrolling back to the traditional way.

To alter scrolling direction, go to System Preferences/Mouse and uncheck the top box as in this pic.
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post #115 of 184
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I downloaded the install in about 2 hours (at work) this morning and in my haste to try out Lion, I didn't make a copy of the installer to use on my 2 other macs before I installed it on my MBP. I did not know the installer was deleted after install. So for those of you out there with multiple macs...make a copy of the installer before installing.

So..does anyone know if there is a way to create a Lion boot disk from the newly created Recovery Partition? I really don't want to have to download this again from home as my connection speed is about 1/3 as slow as my work connection.

You don't need to backup the installer. Just make a DVD or Flash drive from the InstallESD.dmg disk image in the package contents folder with Disk Utility.

LINK TO DIRECTIONS HOW TO DO IT:

How to make a bootable Lion install disc or drive.

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post #116 of 184
!!!! WARNING !!!

Two Major problems with Lion and one annoyance:

1) Not compatible wth most NAS drives. Apple added a new APF but did not include backwards compatibility.... ( This is going to be a huge problem ) Apples position is talk your NAS manufacturer into updating their firmware...( Like that is going to happen )

2) Many Wireless printers are not going to work due to problem #1. My brand new HP Photosmart C310 WILL NOT WORK with Lion.

3) Why in the world did they reverse the two finger scroll up/down behavior?????
post #117 of 184
The biggest failure for me is the lack of AirPlay integration in the QuickTime Player and especially the QuickTime web plugin! After all the AirPlay hype, Apple has delivered very little Mac integration, IMHO. No AirPlay still in FaceTime either -- what about iChat audio/video chats? Come on Apple -- bake it in FULLY.

Also, where is all that promised additional AirPrint support, Apple?

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Why in the world did they reverse the two finger scroll up/down behavior?????

Five question marks for something that that it only obvious but easy to reverse?


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The biggest failure for me is the lack of AirPlay integration in the QuickTime Player and especially the QuickTime web plugin! After all the AirPlay hype, Apple has delivered very little Mac integration, IMHO. No AirPlay still in FaceTime either -- what about iChat audio/video chats? Come on Apple -- bake it in FULLY.

Also, where is all that promised additional AirPrint support, Apple?


With the profit deferment they've enacted they add Airzplay and many other features as they wish.
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post #119 of 184
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At appx 4:30 ET Wed - problems with 'Apple ID Authorization'

When trying to buy Lion via 'App Store' Application

Kept returning - "Your Apple ID has been disabled"

But ID works fine for Account Info/iTunes/Apple in General

Can even reset, re-password it, etc

.

Contacted Apple 'Help' on phone - they say (in effect)

"Are problems with Apple ID Verification in App Store due to huge load/volume, should be fixed in few hours, try again later, ok?"

Well, is not 'ok' but ... it is what it are

Find out in few hours ?

.

Anyone else run into this same 'situation' ?

.
post #120 of 184
anyone else having issues where the directionality of scrolling on a mouse scroll-wheel seems to have reversed with Lion? I can't figure out how to flip it back.

Everything else seems fine (although I was really annoyed to find my 2004 Word doesn't work anymore -- ACS journals require it for submission).
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