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Apple on Friday afternoon released iOS 5.0 beta 4 to developers via the software's new over-the-air (OTA) Software Updater, marking the first time it's tested the functionality externally.

Previously, developers and users would first have to download iOS updates via iTunes or Apple's web-based developer portal, then tether their iOS device to a computer running iTunes in order to apply the update.

Although developers are able to begin downloading the update over a WiFi or 3G connection with low battery life, installation of OTA updates are prohibited unless an iOS device is plugged into a power source or has at least 50% of its battery life remaining -- the installation button is simply grayed out (as can be seen below).

Friday's OTA beta is a delta update weighing just 133MB, which saves users from having to download an additional 730.8MB of redundant data that was distributed as part of the previous iPhone 4 GSM release, which weighed in at 863.8MB.

In a set of release notes reportedly accompanying the latest beta, Apple noted that developers using the OTA software update from beta 3 to beta 4 will need to re-sync their photos with iTunes.




The Cupertino-based company also noted that with iOS 5.0 beta 4, wireless syncing is now available on Windows as well as the Mac and file names in iCloud are case sensitive.

For those developers testing their applications with AirPlay and Apple TV, Apple also reportedly noted that there is no new build for AppleTV for beta 4 of iOS 5 and recommended that developers continue using beta 3 of the Apple TV update.

People familiar with the beta have also noted that some portions of iCloud data syncing are now active. Documents from recent Mac versions of iWork, for example, can now reportedly be synced through the service.



Additional discoveries in the new beta will be reported when and if they become available.
post #2 of 27
iTunes beta 4 brought back iTunesHelper for whatever reason.

Shame. I liked not having it.

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post #3 of 27
The OTA update went flawlessly for me. However I did have to resync my photos.
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iTunes beta 4 brought back iTunesHelper for whatever reason.

Shame. I liked not having it.

iTunes beta 4?
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iTunes beta 4 brought back iTunesHelper for whatever reason.

Shame. I liked not having it.

I'm still on Beta 3, and iTunesHelper is in my Activity Monitor...
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I'm still on Beta 3, and iTunesHelper is in my Activity Monitor...

Weird, I am on b3 and do not. I am running Lion GM.
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iTunes beta 4?

Yes. The one that goes with the software mentioned in this article.

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I'm still on Beta 3, and iTunesHelper is in my Activity Monitor...

It was gone in betas two and three for me, but is back now in four.

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post #8 of 27
Downloading as we speak. Seems to be stuck towards the end here but anxiosely awaiting iwork sharing capabilities and unlikely but still gesture support for the ipad 1. The icon with gears is crazy realistic. Its like retina on steroids realistic.
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post #10 of 27
I just installed iOS 5 beta 4 "over the air" and it went very smoothly on both my iPad 1 and iPhone 3GS. So easy, my mom could have done it. The last "minute" or so took about 10+ minutes. But when it was done everything looked perfect - so much so that I had verify the version to be sure the new version was really installed. Simply put, it worked beautifully!!

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post #11 of 27
Feels much snappier on verizon iPhone. Just used it for a few minutes but is much closer to the final though typing is still not quite there. Gonna go try the iPad now.
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The last "minute" or so took about 10+ minutes.

Yea that last minute was like 15 minutes for me. But I am used to that now cause that seems to be true of any install since I had a 486.

I got a question. Before Ota did the Mac do the installation and just send the processed data onto the phone, did the phone do processing. This Ota seemed a bit longer than tethered install
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Yea that last minute was like 15 minutes for me. But I am used to that now cause that seems to be true of any install since I had a 486.

I got a question. Before Ota did the Mac do the installation and just send the processed data onto the phone, did the phone do processing. This Ota seemed a bit longer than tethered install

That's a good question. I don't know for sure, but the iOS 5 beta 4 OTA download is much smaller (133 MB for iPad 1) compared to the full image download (745.5 MB for iPad 1) that is installed via a Mac and hard wire connection. I'm guessing the OTA install has to replace bits on a file-by-file basis which could, in some cases, be slower than writing a single complete new image - which would be the case for any computer, iPhone, iPad, Mac or PC.

For me, the OTA download was the slowest part of the whole install process, yet the total download and install time was probably not more than 30 or 40 minutes at most; very reasonable in my opinion. This was the case for both my iPhone 3GS and iPad 1. What I like most is how simple it was to install, and I did not have to go through any restore or sync afterward, which must be done when doing a full install.
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That's a good question. I don't know for sure, but the iOS 5 beta 4 OTA download is much smaller (133 MB for iPad 1) compared to the full image download (745.5 MB for iPad 1) that is installed via a Mac and hard wire connection. I'm guessing the OTA install has to replace bits on a file-by-file basis which could, in some cases, be slower than writing a single complete new image - which would be the case for any computer, iPhone, iPad, Mac or PC.

For me, the OTA download was the slowest part of the whole install process, yet the total download and install time was probably not more than 30 or 40 minutes at most; very reasonable in my opinion. This was the case for both my iPhone 3GS and iPad 1. What I like most is how simple it was to install.

OTA download was the slowest for me as well with both my iPad 2 and iPhone 4 easily taking 45 minutes or more on each device. I'm definitely looking forward to using beta 4 as 3 was VERY unstable for me on both with frequent browser crashes on the iPad and constant "resets" on the iPhone (not quite a reboot but a black screen pause that would interrupt whatever I was doing--stopping apps and "pausing" but not disconnecting phone calls).
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I got a question. Before Ota did the Mac do the installation and just send the processed data onto the phone, did the phone do processing. This Ota seemed a bit longer than tethered install

Before Beta 4, it had to be a full "tethered install". So the Mac did all the work, as far as I can tell anyway.

I skipped Beta 3 with my iPhone 4, so I had to do the full tethered install for Beta 4.

It was almost flawless on my iPad over the air. Although for a while it kept prompting that it couldn't verify because it had lost an internet connection, even when I could still use the browser...
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I'm definitely looking forward to using beta 4 as 3 was VERY unstable for me on both with frequent browser crashes on the iPad.

Yea safari would crash all the time on beta 3 on the iPad. This version is a bit more stable though still not quite there.
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Yea safari would crash all the time on beta 3 on the iPad. This version is a bit more stable though still not quite there.

There's lots of apps that crash, or don't show the full detail. I'm still checking out Safari.

I'm wondering if the apps need to have their code optimized for iOS 5. So far I haven't seen any updates for the new OS. Anyone here see any? They're getting the same betas we are...
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iPad 2 WiFI OTA update came in at 130MB and worked flawlessly. So are these still not "PCs"?
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The Cupertino-based company also noted that with iOS 5.0 beta 4, wireless syncing is now available on Windows as well as the Mac and file names in iCloud are case sensitive.

Is this case sensitivity going to be a problem for both Mac and Windows users?
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But what about:

Let the backtracking begin.

I'll start it out with a trip-up: I believed there shouldn't be patch updates and I continue to believe there shouldn't be patch updates.

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are the folks posting here my fellow registerd devswho are breaking NDAone after another, or is there some hack to bybass the device activation based on UDID...
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are the folks posting here my fellow registerd devswho are breaking NDAone after another

No one really cares about that here...

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, or is there some hack to bybass the device activation based on UDID...

No way to bypass it, but there are people schilling out their UDID slots to any Tom, Dick, or Harry with about five bucks each. Which is nonsense, by the way.

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No one really cares about that here...



No way to bypass it, but there are people schilling out their UDID slots to any Tom, Dick, or Harry with about five bucks each. Which is nonsense, by the way.

$5?????

It isnt worth the time to key in the UDID, and barely worth the time to cut and paste for that price, nad the risk involved if found out by apple? forget about it!
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$5?????

It isnt worth the time to key in the UDID, and barely worth the time to cut and paste for that price, nad the risk involved if found out by apple? forget about it!

I believe the very same thing. But thousands of people are doing it (and have done it for years) and Apple doesn't seem to care less. So it continues.

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Is this case sensitivity going to be a problem for both Mac and Windows users?

If I remember correctly case sensitivity is a unix thing. As in Windows does not care about case when you type in commands, but unix would. However I think OSX also is not case sensitive, so I am not sure if it has anything to do with the windows issue.

Edit: I guess thats not very helpful.
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If I remember correctly case sensitivity is a unix thing. As in Windows does not care about case when you type in commands, but unix would. However I think OSX also is not case sensitive, so I am not sure if it has anything to do with the windows issue.

You can format your Mac drives as case-sensitive so iCloud being this way means that you won't get any conflicts syncing from case-sensitive drives. The default case-insensitive drives will also be fine with this. The only issue that might arise is if you sync from a case-sentitive Mac to a case-insensitive iOS device with e.g music tracks that have the same name but different capitalisation.

I don't like case-sensitivity because it means having to remember the exact URL of files online. The whole world just needs to decide unanimously to stop using it.
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The Cupertino-based company also noted that with iOS 5.0 beta 4, wireless syncing is now available on Windows as well as the Mac and file names in iCloud are case sensitive.

Being that Apple platforms for the last 10 years have been all UNIX based, isn't it fair to assume that all files would be case sensitive as all *NIX platform file systems are?

if this is in fact in the documentation, it wouldn't be news to any pro devs who know UNIX...
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