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Sales of Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 have been halted in Australia as a result of the company's ongoing patent infringement dispute with Apple.

Apple recently won an agreement in court in Australia, barring the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the country, according to Bloomberg. The Australian court determined that Samsung will not be able to sell its own iPad-competing tablet until its dispute with Apple is resolved.

Samsung has agreed to stop advertising the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia, and the device will not be sold in the country until the South Korean device maker either wins an appeal with the court, or the lawsuit is resolved.

Australia is one of many countries where Apple and Samsung are engaged in a patent dispute in which each has accused the other of infringement. The legal battle began in April, when Apple sued Samsung in the U.S. and accused the company of copying the look and feel of its wildly popular iPhone and iPad products.

In lawsuits with the U.S. International Trade Commission, both Samsung and Apple have asked that each others' products be banned from importation because of alleged patent infringement. But unlike Australia, the ITC has not taken such drastic measures thus far in America.



The fight between Apple and Samsung has been fierce, with Apple referring to Samsung as "the copyist" in court filings, while Samsung has argued that some of Apple's legal team should be disqualified for an alleged conflict of interest. Despite all of that, Apple is said to be the largest customer of Samsung, and is expected to buy some $7.8 billion in components from its rival this year.

Apple, in its legal case in Australia, has asserted that Samsung has infringed upon 10 patents related to its products, particularly the iPhone and iPad. Federal Court Justice Annabelle Bennett in Sydney has reportedly set a hearing for Aug. 29 to review the case and, if necessary, to set a trial date.

The Galaxy Tab 10.1 was added to Apple's case against Samsung in June, along with the Nexus S 4G, Galaxy S smartphones, and Droid Charge. In that filing, Apple asserted that Samsung has become "even bolder" in copying the iPhone and iPad.
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That's all you can say, really.

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Wait, it's not like anyone was buying them, anyway, so this doesn't do as much as I originally thought.

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Wow.

The most interesting part.

"Should Apple lose its patent infringement lawsuit, it agreed to pay Samsung damages, which werent specified."

How do you put a dollar amount on missing out on the critical launch of a brand new market?

Lawyers from both sides could be arguing this bloody case for a decade.
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Wow.

The most interesting part.

"Should Apple lose its patent infringement lawsuit, it agreed to pay Samsung damages, which werent specified."

How do you put a dollar amount on missing out on the critical launch of a brand new market?

Lawyers from both sides could be arguing this bloody case for a decade.

I think that's a pretty clear indication of how sure Apple are that they'll win the suit.
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Wow.

The most interesting part.

"Should Apple lose its patent infringement lawsuit, it agreed to pay Samsung damages, which werent specified."

How do you put a dollar amount on missing out on the critical launch of a brand new market?

Lawyers from both sides could be arguing this bloody case for a decade.

... and the damages could be in the billions by that time.
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... and the damages could be in the billions by that time.

You mean billions of pennies, right?
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I wonder if the tablets have already been sent to Australia, they will be counted as SHIPPED!
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guys - why do you think this is funny? This is scary monopolistic behaviour.

Is everyone on this board seriously that stupid that they don't want any choice in electronics apart from apple?
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It would be great if one day Apple decided to not troll and sink all that money that are being wasted lawyers into research and development or maybe fixing Lion. They could be innovative which they have not really done since the magic mouse.

Make me ashamed to be an Apple owner
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Originally Posted by djmikeo View Post

I wonder if the tablets have already been sent to Australia, they will be counted as SHIPPED!

Samsung isn't reporting shipped tablets anymore. They're not even reporting smartphones separately these days, all they're giving is total device revenue and profits. Their quarterly reports are becoming increasingly opaque.
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guys - why do you think this is funny? This is scary monopolistic behaviour.

Is everyone on this board seriously that stupid that they don't want any choice in electronics apart from apple?

They're free to buy a Xoom, or a Toshiba Thrive, or the forthcoming Sony S1 or either of the lenovo 10.1inch androids. It's not like they don't have plenty of choices of 10inch tablet. Heck they could go wild and buy an HP touchpad.

This isn't scary monopolistic behaviour, this is standard enforcement of IP rights.
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They're free to buy a Xoom, or a Toshiba Thrive, or the forthcoming Sony S1 or either of the lenovo 10.1inch androids. It's not like they don't have plenty of choices of 10inch tablet. Heck they could go wild and buy an HP touchpad.

This isn't scary monopolistic behaviour, this is standard enforcement of IP rights.

Yes, they have that choice. But they can't buy the product which is arguably the next best after the iPad 2.
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... and the damages could be in the billions by that time.

I find that doubtful but the good thing in that outcome would be that Samsung would have to release not only shipped sales of previous tablets but the sell through as well since any settlement would have to be reached from estimates from previous sales.
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It would be great if one day Apple decided to not troll and sink all that money that are being wasted lawyers into research and development or maybe fixing Lion. They could be innovative which they have not really done since the magic mouse.

Make me ashamed to be an Apple owner

If your so ashamed you should sell your Apple computers and buy one from a company that you find to be innovative. Dell, HP. Hell buy a bunch of samsung stuff and let us know how innovative you find them.
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guys - why do you think this is funny? This is scary monopolistic behaviour.

Is everyone on this board seriously that stupid that they don't want any choice in electronics apart from apple?

I am all for choice. I hope that Samsung is able to develop a competing product, but they can't just copy the iPad.
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Yes, they have that choice. But they can't buy the product which is arguably the next best after the iPad 2.

They can't buy the product which is the most flagrant copy of the iPad-2. Actually I would say that slight build quality issues aside the Sony-S1 looks the most interesting of the android tablets.
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Yes, they have that choice. But they can't buy the product which is arguably the next best after the iPad 2.

Calling Samsung's new tablet the best after ipad is arguable as you admit. Also, this has nothing to do with a monopoly. Apple wasn't the first with a tablet to market and is not the only company selling tablets. Just because a company has been accused of infringing on another company's IP which results in the infringing company not selling you the exact tablet at the exact time that you want means anybody has a monopoly.
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Yes, they have that choice. But they can't buy the product which is arguably the next best after the iPad 2.

So you think it's OK to steal?
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So you think it's OK to steal?

Oh, Apple steals stuff all the time.
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Yes, they have that choice. But they can't buy the product which is arguably the next best after the iPad 2.

If I could make the second best CPU next to intel's by copy its entire design, would it be monopolistic practice on intel's part if they stop me from selling it?
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Oh, Apple steals stuff all the time.

And they would get sued.
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Oh, Apple steals stuff all the time.

Not on this scale they do not.
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guys - why do you think this is funny? This is scary monopolistic behaviour.

Is everyone on this board seriously that stupid that they don't want any choice in electronics apart from apple?

Having spent years of my life working in Samsung fabs as a vendor, and being treated like shit by them, I think it's funny because a company with a frankly horrible culture, who typically use their size to treat vendors extremely badly, are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Schandenfreude? Yes.

Funny? That too!
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And what is so similar between Honeycomb and iOS (for iPad) please ?
It's pretty obvious they are different.
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Having spent years of my life working in Samsung fabs as a vendor, and being treated like shit by them, I think it's funny because a company with a frankly horrible culture, who typically use their size to treat vendors extremely badly, are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Schandenfreude? Yes.

Funny? That too!

Yeah because Apple is well known for his perfect behavior with App Store employees, resellers, etc..
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And what is so similar between Honeycomb and iOS (for iPad) please ?
It's pretty obvious they are different.

Since this is a trade dress issue (how the hardware and if Samsung slapped its touchwiz UI on the tablet in question then SOME software looks in comparison to the iPad) so honeycomb proper has little to do with the issue at hand.
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And what is so similar between Honeycomb and iOS (for iPad) please ?
It's pretty obvious they are different.

I think you'll find a gazillion posts in countless other threads for this year alone that answered that question. Thank you for playing "Let's sound like a broken record!".
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I think you'll find a gazillion posts in countless other threads for this year alone that answered that question. Thank you for playing "Let's sound like a broken record!".

Just find me those posts then, I have plenty of time.
What about Apple wanting to ban the Nexus S ? No Touchwiz in there, just pure Android.
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Apple is not a patent troll. Apple 1) actually builds things, 2) spends hundreds of millions of dollars in research to build things, 3) doesn't want competitors to ride freely on it's expensive research, 4) made a public statement that it's products were heavily patented, and 5) made it clear that it planned to protect its investment.

Patent trolls don't do research, don't build things, and they do allow companies to rely on allegedly patented ideas and sue as a way to extract money. Apple doesn't want money. It wants Samsung to stop copying its products.

Some Samsung phones are almost exact replicates of iPhones. You have to look carefully to see they are not.

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It would be great if one day Apple decided to not troll and sink all that money that are being wasted lawyers into research and development or maybe fixing Lion. They could be innovative which they have not really done since the magic mouse.

Make me ashamed to be an Apple owner
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And what is so similar between Honeycomb and iOS (for iPad) please ?
It's pretty obvious they are different.

I think you need to refresh your mind on what Apple is sueing Samsung for. (hint: hardware)

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Wait, it's not like anyone was buying them, anyway, so this doesn't do as much as I originally thought.


beat me too it!

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Just find me those posts then, I have plenty of time.
What about Apple wanting to ban the Nexus S ? No Touchwiz in there, just pure Android.

Sorry but since you only 5 posts on here, I think the onus is on YOU to review posts on the subject. As for the Nexus S, I didn't know that Apple had a case against that but if it doesn't have a similar hardware build and no touchwiz then it most likely was a patent case (like HTC) which is totally different (but just as valid).
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Just find me those posts then, I have plenty of time.
What about Apple wanting to ban the Nexus S ? No Touchwiz in there, just pure Android.

IF you had plenty of time, you would not have posted your original question to begin with. This has been addressed countless times and debated till exhaustion. Won't satisfy the iHaters regardless. The Samsung fiasco is not about Android. Look it up yourself. You have plenty of time, and I have better things to do than show you how to type G O O G L E. Use one finger on your keyboard if it makes it easier.
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I think you need to refresh your mind on what Apple is sueing Samsung for. (hint: hardware)

So, if I follow you, they should sue Motorola (Xoom), Acer (A500), Samsung (Galaxy Tab 10.1), Asus (Transformer), HP (TouchPad), etc, just because they are 10 inch tablets with a black bezel ?
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

IF you had plenty of time, you would not have posted your original question to begin with. This has been addressed countless times and debated till exhaustion. Won't satisfy the iHaters regardless. The Samsung fiasco is not about Android. Look it up yourself. You have plenty of time, and I have better things to do than show you how to type G O O G L E. Use one finger on your keyboard if it makes it easier.

Come on lazy guy, you can do better.
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Originally Posted by Firefly7475 View Post

"Should Apple lose its patent infringement lawsuit, it agreed to pay Samsung damages, which werent specified."

How do you put a dollar amount on missing out on the critical launch of a brand new market?

Lawyers from both sides could be arguing this bloody case for a decade.

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I think that's a pretty clear indication of how sure Apple are that they'll win the suit.

Nah, it's an indicator of how sure the court is that Apple will win the suit. That's how injunctions are granted.
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