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Apple has posted a not yet fully functional login page for its new iCloud service, representing a revamped version of its existing Mail, Contacts, Calendar and Find My iPhone MobileMe apps as well as newly integrating the document sharing features of iWork.com.

The new iCloud login page, which appears as an Apple Store-like name tag on a lanyard, enables some users to log into functional apps. Other users are presented with an iOS-style popup asking them to migrate their data from MobileMe to iCloud, a feature which isn't yet working.




Hope for mobile users

The iCloud login page is also available from mobile devices (below), suggesting that Apple will finally make its web-based apps accessible from iOS devices. MobileMe web apps are currently blocked from iOS mobile users, apparently because Apple's mobile browser does not support the "real web" well enough to work acceptably with them. This prevents iOS users from accessing a secondary account.

Android and other mobile users are similarly blocked from accessing MobileMe, and get the same "download the iOS native apps" message iOS users get, despite there being no MobileMe native apps that Android or other mobile users can install.



The first user to report successfully logging into the new service, Rafael Fischmann of the Brazilian MacMagazine blog, presented screen shots of the new Mail, Calendar and Contacts apps, all of which have adopted a new iPad-like appearance.






The new service also includes iCloud for Keynote, Pages and Numbers, which "stores your documents and keeps them up to date on your devices and the web." This new service goes above and beyond the former iWork.com, which simply enabled users to share documents over the web to other users, with a web app client that enabled others to view and comment on documents even without owning iWork.

The new iCloud for iWork apps incorporates "iCloud for Documents," a new storage and sync feature that third party developers can incorporate in their own apps to allow their users to keep documents in sync across the users various devices, updating changes made on one machine across every other instance of that file, automatically.



The first 5GB of documents users store within iCloud will be free, while Apple appears set to make 10, 20 and 50GB options available annually for $20, $40, or $100, respectively.

Missing in the transition from MobileMe to iCloud is the Gallery and iDisk web apps, which are largely replaced by similar functionality offered by iCloud's Photo Stream and Documents features.
post #2 of 78
I was able to successfully log in with my developer account, but not my MobileMe account (as I have not transferred it over yet). First thoughts:
  • Beautiful design. Really lovely look.
  • Very iOS like. From the icons, homepage and apps, to the pop-up dialogues and transitions.
  • Did I mention it looks like an iPad on the web?
  • Also, it's gorgeous. Cannot understate how really elegant everything looks, feels, and works.

It's a great site, and I can't imagine how useful it'll be for all iOS users being free and well-designed. Funny enough, I see things like this as being subtle trojan horses for Apple. It's like they give people a taste of really good taste and then they're hooked. After seeing something done really well, they don't want to settle for anything less.

Really great work.
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post #3 of 78
This looks beautiful!

Will we be able to thumb through versions of documents on every device also? Or only on the device on which it was being created?

Color me excited.
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It's a great site, and I can't imagine how useful it'll be for all iOS users being free and well-designed. Funny enough, I see things like this as being subtle trojan horses for Apple. It's like they give people a taste of really good taste and then they're hooked. After seeing something done really well, they don't want to settle for anything less.

I agree. Like offering one single chip and then kicking back and eating the bag in their presence.
post #5 of 78
This is pretty cool... I opened up Pages on both my iPhone and iPad and everything is there. It's kinda neat creating a document on your iPad and watching it appear on your iPhone.

I can start brainstorming an idea on my Mac and pickup where I left off on my iPad or iPhone and never miss a beat.
post #6 of 78
It just works.
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Nevermind.
post #8 of 78
Worked perfectly for me, although I didn't have an old MobilMe account, just my developer account. This is great. I can get rid of my GMail account.
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post #9 of 78
I get an incorrect username/password dialog that looked like an iOS dialogue (which looked surprisingly nice on OS X!). Anyways, it asked me if I wanted to use iForgot to recover my password, but the password is correct!
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The iCloud page is GORGEOUS, by the way.



That background? Just tiled with a great-looking gradient applied to it. I'm sure it's HTML5.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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post #11 of 78
Agreed... EXCEPT the whole thing is worthless to me because I have a DOT ME email address and iCloud doesn't support custom domains even though Google and Microsoft have been supporting them for years.

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Originally Posted by Smiles77 View Post

I was able to successfully log in with my developer account, but not my MobileMe account (as I have not transferred it over yet). First thoughts:
  • Beautiful design. Really lovely look.
  • Very iOS like. From the icons, homepage and apps, to the pop-up dialogues and transitions.
  • Did I mention it looks like an iPad on the web?
  • Also, it's gorgeous. Cannot understate how really elegant everything looks, feels, and works.
It's a great site, and I can't imagine how useful it'll be for all iOS users being free and well-designed. Funny enough, I see things like this as being subtle trojan horses for Apple. It's like they give people a taste of really good taste and then they're hooked. After seeing something done really well, they don't want to settle for anything less.

Really great work.
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The iCloud page is GORGEOUS, by the way.



That background? Just tiled with a great-looking gradient applied to it. I'm sure it's HTML5.

We can call it Cotton.

It's the new Linen.
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Agreed... EXCEPT the whole thing is worthless to me because I have a DOT ME email address and iCloud doesn't support custom domains even though Google and Microsoft have been supporting them for years.

So you have for example rtm135@website.me as your email? And you're not able to use it with iCloud? Do you use it for your iTunes purchases? I wasn't aware of this if so; I'm guessing because it's a bit of a niche case (not that that's bad). You should file a report with Apple about it.
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Ok, so for 100$ you get 55 GB.

For the same price, you get 400 GB at Google.
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So you have for example rtm135@website.me as your email? And you're not able to use it with iCloud? Do you use it for your iTunes purchases? I wasn't aware of this if so; I'm guessing because it's a bit of a niche case (not that that's bad). You should file a report with Apple about it.

Particularly since @me.com is the basis on which iCloud is founded...

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Ok, so for 100$ you get 55 GB.

For the same price, you get 400 GB at Google.

And?

Originally Posted by Slurpy

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post #16 of 78
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Originally Posted by 513 View Post

Ok, so for 100$ you get 55 GB.

For the same price, you get 400 GB at Google.

I believe you get ads as well.
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Anyone managed to actually buy more space?
When I try I get an unknown error occurred dialog.
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I believe you get ads as well.

Only in Gmail, no ads in Calendar, Picasa, Docs.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

And?

Maybe it's a bit expensive ?
What is wrong to make a comparison with competitors ?
post #20 of 78
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Originally Posted by 513 View Post

Ok, so for 100$ you get 55 GB.

For the same price, you get 400 GB at Google.

For under $100, you can get 1 TB with a 3-5 year warranty at Fry's.

Talk about great deals, though, from AT&T wireless you can get 50 GB data transferred for $500 or 1 TB for $10K (not counting the cost of overhead bytes of course!)
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The iCloud login page is also available from mobile devices (below), suggesting that Apple will finally make its web-based apps accessible from iOS devices. MobileMe web apps are currently blocked from iOS mobile users, apparently because Apple's mobile browser does not support the "real web" well enough to work acceptably with them. This prevents iOS users from accessing a secondary account. [/c]

Believe it or not, some of the current MobileMe web apps use...Flash...shock horror!!

Try it yourself, install Click2Flash and try to upload images using the web apps. You need to click to allow the Flash buttons to work.

Hopefully, that's all behind us now. These web apps look lovely and as has been said, they'll be a great piece of advertising for Apple's ethos. Apple don't get enough credit for their website work. They really make some nice stuff.
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iCloud backs up your:
- purchased music, apps, and books
- photo and video in the camera roll
- device settings
- app data
- home screen and app organization
- text and mms messages
- ringtones
- all iWork documents
- you can even restore a brand new device from the cloud

What does the Google service do?
post #23 of 78
All right, this could now be a serious contender in the web space to challange google's stranglehold over my email, calendars and documents on the web. I will give it a try, though it may be too late for me to make the switch. But for those just starting out these apps are a pretty good alternative at the right price tag.
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iCloud backs up your:
- purchased music, apps, and books
- photo and video in the camera roll
- device settings
- app data
- home screen and app organization
- text and mms messages
- ringtones
- all iWork documents
- you can even restore a brand new device from the cloud

What does the Google service do?

Spy on your emails and sell your personal information to the lowest bidder including Chinese hackers.
post #25 of 78
Looks banna awesome. Can't wait for full featured release.
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Agreed... EXCEPT the whole thing is worthless to me because I have a DOT ME email address and iCloud doesn't support custom domains even though Google and Microsoft have been supporting them for years.

So you're complaining about a beta not being finished? File a bug report about the beta.
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Spy on your emails and sell your personal information to the lowest bidder including Chinese hackers.

Have you looked under your bed lately?
post #28 of 78
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iCloud backs up your:
- purchased music, apps, and books
- photo and video in the camera roll
- device settings
- app data
- home screen and app organization
- text and mms messages
- ringtones
- all iWork documents
- you can even restore a brand new device from the cloud

What does the Google service do?

I don't have much need for any of that. Seems like iWork sync is what they are emphasizing right now. I only use iWork to open MS Office files people send me. As long as iDisk and Back to my Mac continue to work I don't care what else it does. I guess Windows users will make use of the calendar. Not sure what else they would need this service for but at least they got a cursory mention in the setup guide.

BTW it did seem dog ass slow. Took several minutes just to authenticate my login. After that it was a little better. I'm on 3G right now with 4 bars

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Does anyone know if Contacts on iCloud Finally allows to Group Contracts without using Outlook? I really loved to be able to organize my contacts on a computer rather then iPhone. And grouping is even better. Currently iPhone contacts is pretty much useless.
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I don't have much need for any of that. Seems like iWork sync is what they are emphasizing right now. I only use iWork to open MS Office files people send me. As long as iDisk and Back to my Mac continue to work I don't care what else it does. I guess Windows users will make use of the calendar. Not sure what else they would need this service for but at least they got a cursory mention in the setup guide.

BTW it did seem dog ass slow. Took several minutes just to authenticate my login. After that it was a little better. I'm on 3G right now with 4 bars

Back to My Mac will continue to function perfectly fine. However, iDisk is going away. You will have access to it until June 30, 2012 (if you don't switch over to iCloud), then it's gone for good. The one and only downside of iCloud compared to MobileMe, imo.

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/transition.html
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iCloud backs up your:
- purchased music, apps, and books
- photo and video in the camera roll
- device settings
- app data
- home screen and app organization
- text and mms messages
- ringtones
- all iWork documents
- you can even restore a brand new device from the cloud

What does the Google service do?

iCloud is not a back-up service. There are many good ones of those - iDrive, SugarSync, DropBox, Box.net to name a few. These services also sync folders across devices and platforms.

iCloud is closer integrated with OSX and iOS and integrates the two closer on a per app basis...
as far as I understand. More of a sophisticated hands off syncing service than a back-up service.
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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

Back to My Mac will continue to function perfectly fine. However, iDisk is going away. You will have access to it until June 30, 2012 (if you don't switch over to iCloud), then it's gone for good. The one and only downside of iCloud compared to MobileMe, imo.

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/transition.html

Good to know. At least I still have DropBox for drag and drop file storage. Too bad though as I use iDisk daily as a mounted volume when I'm on the go, although back to my Mac serves pretty much the same purpose in my usage patterns.

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post #33 of 78
sucks they are discontinuing gallery.
Hope whatever they have up their sleeve is equally as easy to use with iPhoto or my 80 year old Dad will be SOL.
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

iCloud is not a back-up service. There are many good ones of those - iDrive, SugarSync, DropBox, Box.net to name a few. These services also sync folders across devices and platforms.

iCloud is closer integrated with OSX and iOS and integrates the two closer on a per app basis...
as far as I understand. More of a sophisticated hands off syncing service than a back-up service.

It's not a backup service? Then why does Apple call it such and why does it give me the ability to backup my data?


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I don't have much need for any of that.

I do...
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Originally Posted by Patranus View Post

sucks they are discontinuing gallery.
Hope whatever they have up their sleeve is equally as easy to use with iPhoto or my 80 year old Dad will be SOL.

Amen. I'm really going to be ticked if they discontinue gallery. I have little interest in streaming. I want to have iPhoto integration and the ability to point people to specific galleries. And I don't really want to learn flicker or picasa.
post #37 of 78
OK, newbie question. Can iOS Developers who have access to iCloud actually setup an account with @icloud.com, or is it just limited to whatever your current account is?
post #38 of 78
That iPhone in the article; it's screen is looking very 'edge-edge'...? O_o
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That iPhone in the article; it's screen is looking very 'edge-edge'...? O_o

I thought the exact same thing. Surely it couldn't be.

If I were to go with this possibility - I'd say it definitely looks like an edge-to-edge display... and perhaps a bit of a curved back going on... Certainly looks unlike any iPhone 4 promotional image I've seen used...
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So, can iCloud be used with one master (admin) account and several sub-accounts? Sub-accounts could be created and deleted by the master account? Any way to organize this into some sort of workgroup and use it in a small business for document sharing?

Or is it purely one independent iCloud account per individual?

If iCloud is purely a cloud-based syncing system, can your documents be somehow shared with another iCloud member?

Can you mark which documents and/or folders should be synced to iCloud or is this done automatically every time you create an iWork document on a "all-or-nothing" basis per each iWork application? I see there is an option left for third-party applications to use the documents-syncing option into iCloud. Does this leave the door open for non-iWork documents (e.g. PDFs) stored on the local hard drive to be synced into iCloud and possibly shared with other iCloud members? Or is this feature available for third-party applications only and not for files, per se? In other words, will iCloud be underlying-file-system aware when it comes to syncing or will it treat every iCloud-enabled application, be at an iWork application or a third-party application, as a "sandboxed" file system, kind of like apps are treated in iOS? In iOS, an app does not get access to the underlying file system but can create its own "sandboxed" file system for storing user files generated in that app, and no other app has access to that "sandboxed" file system.
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